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Old Posted May 20, 2010, 1:34 AM
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Those may not be up to building code anymore -
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Old Posted May 21, 2010, 2:30 AM
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BC Place has a new and interesting redesigned website. My favourite feature: the downloadable 3D Google Earth image of the new stadium. When you open the file and then turn on 3D buildings in Google Earth, you can see the new stadium roof superimposed over the old roof. If the scale is correct, it will be quite a bit taller than the old roof.

It was interesting to "drive" down Robson toward the new stadium in Google Earth....the new roof should be very impressive from that angle.
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Old Posted May 21, 2010, 6:07 PM
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Yeah, it will be a lot taller - at least at the rim because of the clerestory panels (clear panels - same material as the Bejiing Water Cube complex)
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Old Posted May 21, 2010, 7:29 PM
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Regarding the passage, how wide do steps have to be to be considered grand?

Seriously, take a good look at the scale of the steps in the options. Option 2 & 3 both have really wide, grand staircases, yet there is still plenty of room for a bike path and landscaped area.

The space is larger than people may realize, and it grows wider as you descend. I just don't see how having a bike path is an impediment to having a stately staircase that widens as you approach the base.

There is plenty of room for both. It's not an either / or proposition.
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Old Posted May 21, 2010, 8:45 PM
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I prefer option 1 with the the option 3 overpass with a sloped bike usable ramp. I would then prefer that overpass to be moved to the eastern edge of the staircase and instead having a spiral ramp and have it wide enough for two bike lanes and a narrow pedestrian/wheelchair lane. I think the vast majority of the pedestrians would and should use the main ground level crossing while the bike overpass would be more out of the way and not most direct route for pedestrians especially with the spiral that would also slow bicycles down for safety and make the best use of the space available without having a sprawling bike path.

There is something people love about grand staircases and if i would have to guess it would be because of the open vantage point with out height dangers and easy seating.

I also like the idea of poles and creating something else to focus on along the false creek waterfront.
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Old Posted May 21, 2010, 9:17 PM
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More about the poles and what I picture. Although obviously our version would be smaller and cheaper to operate, something that would better fit the area. But even then the LAX ones only use $18,000 worth of electricity per year and have $20,000 budgeted in maintenance per year, a $2 million dollar one time fund from one of the local developers, the city, pavco, or anyone else would keep something as large as the LAX one running for ever. A smaller version may only require maybe a $1million dollar one time fund to keep it running for ever.

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Los Angeles International Airport (LAX) is the fifth busiest airport in the world, accommodating more than 61 million travelers per year. In 2006 it undertook a major lighting renovation to both improve visual impact and reduce energy and maintenance concerns by taking advantage of intelligent LED illumination.

The project called for approximately 1,800 ColorBlast® 12 Powercore fixtures to replace five-year-old metal halide fixtures within 26 glass pylons leading to the airport's entrance, known as the famed LAX Gateway. Ranging in height from 25 to 110 feet, the translucent pylons can now display custom-designed, color-changing effects that are seamlessly enabled by Chromacore® technology, as opposed to the use of glass filters, colored gels, and electro-mechanical color scrollers that were previously required. Based on preliminary operation and testing, the LED-based system is expected to cut energy consumption by 75%, reduce annual electricity costs from $73,000 to $18,000, and cut annual maintenance costs from $1 million to $20,000 – an excellent example of the return on investment that can be achieved with LEDs in place of conventional sources. On top of the economic benefits, the pylons are more uniformly light from top to bottom with vibrant saturated color.

The pylons of LAX Gateway are visible to airline passengers at 3,000 feet. A series of dynamic light shows was designed for the new LED-based installation, including a patriotic sequence of red, white and blue to observe the anniversary of September 11, 2001. The distinctive, architectural structures were originally designed as part of a $112 million construction and landscaping program intended to make the airport more welcoming and convenient for passengers. They have since become an iconic component of the Los Angeles cityscape for residents and visitors alike.

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Old Posted May 21, 2010, 10:36 PM
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We could put small blades at the top and generate the electricity for free via wind power. A nice set of brightly-lit poles would be nice, though.
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Nice example cornholio, I think something like that for the steps would cost quite a bit less to operate and maintain considering it will be a bit smaller than LAX's.
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Old Posted May 21, 2010, 11:37 PM
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if the steps are grand enough you can ride down them, not sure about going up though
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Old Posted May 27, 2010, 5:47 PM
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Webcams - interior and exterior views:

http://www.bcplacestadium.com/index.php/construction.html
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BC Place construction photo | June 3rd 2010


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Old Posted Jun 6, 2010, 7:39 PM
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Webcams - interior and exterior views:

http://www.bcplacestadium.com/index.php/construction.html
All of the roof + all but one of the cables seem to have been removed...if you want to see open-air BC place, here it is



bcplacestadium.com
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Old Posted Jun 6, 2010, 9:28 PM
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Thanks for posting.
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I hope they do plan on replacing all of the seats
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Old Posted Jun 6, 2010, 10:02 PM
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I haven't been by BC Place for quite awhile. Are they removing the hideous brown glass on the exterior?
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Old Posted Jun 9, 2010, 7:40 PM
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I haven't been by BC Place for quite awhile. Are they removing the hideous brown glass on the exterior?
That's a good question. I've been wondering about that myself. Also, there still hasn't been any clarification for the replacement of the seats. Are they going to upgrade on that too?

Personally, I don't think they're going to replace the brown glas on the exterior. Looks 80's like - I understand - but I don't think they have the funds to replace that. Or maybe...they can't. Anyone have any answers to this?
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Old Posted Jun 9, 2010, 7:49 PM
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Some of the renderings showed the 80's sloped glass replaced with vertical glass, while other renderings showed the 80's glass intact.
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There are orange tarps over a bunch of sections of the concourse now. You can see that the glass has been removed under these areas, but I don't know if that's permanent or not.

Any cams from above out there? If the seats were going to be replaced, no doubt they would already be in the process of removal.
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Old Posted Jun 9, 2010, 9:38 PM
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The cam views posted in this thread show that some of the upper rows of seats have been removed, but only those that would hinder the construction work around the top rim. The rest of the seats look largely intact.

As for the sloping windows, it appears that only enough windows have been removed to make space for cranes to be erected at even spacings around the stadium. These would be the cranes that will place the "pylons" on the rim.
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Old Posted Jun 10, 2010, 3:23 AM
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Surely they'll replace the seats. After the damages that could happen during the construction process plus being exposed to the elements till next summer, the seats will be looking older than they do now. Does anybody have stats on how much it costs to install/replace stadium seating?
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