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Old Posted May 21, 2010, 6:21 PM
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wow! Nice building. Doesn't look like traffic was much of an issue back then.
Maybe not in 1900, but definitely by 1924: Click here, photo courtesy of USC Archive

Wouldn't it be cool today, sitting at Pete's Cafe and being able to see the old Westminster Hotel? Oh well. And apparently back then, the Barclay Hotel was the Van Nuys Hotel.
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Old Posted May 21, 2010, 6:21 PM
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That's the cheese grater building!

No seriously, the most important thing is to have the ground level active. MOST people DO NOT look up when they're walking on the street. A handful of urban enthusiasts, architecture buffs, and photographers care. MOST people get a certain vibe about a place and decide whether they like it or not.
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Old Posted May 21, 2010, 6:23 PM
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Maybe not in 1900, but definitely by 1924: Click here, photo courtesy of USC Archive

Wouldn't it be cool today, sitting at Pete's Cafe and being able to see the old Westminster Hotel? Oh well. And apparently back then, the Barclay Hotel was the Van Nuys Hotel.

Looks like that beautiful streetcar would wind its way up to Pasadena (Sierra Madre) and probably went down Colorado Blvd. right into the heart of Old Pasadena.
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Here are some photos looking down into the inner courtyard of the Medallion.
With the sidewalk demolition in the bottom of the shots.








     
     
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Old Posted May 21, 2010, 9:34 PM
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sopas: that was always my view of modernism: an excuse for making everything as simple and cheap as possible.

It's interesting how much has been built east of St. Vib, toward Little Tokyo. This used to be hardcore skid row. Some more residential further west (Hill, Olive) might support more life around the Grand Project.
     
     
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Old Posted May 25, 2010, 3:02 AM
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Architectural firms vie for Broad museum project

The six architects -- four are winners of the Pritzker Prize -- are based in Holland, England, Switzerland, Japan, France and the U.S.

Eli Broad is a little further along in his plans for a downtown museum than you might have guessed.

Even as he continues to negotiate with city and county officials and with representatives of developer Related Cos. about building a museum to hold his collection of postwar and contemporary art on Bunker Hill, the billionaire philanthropist and his chief of staff, Gerun Riley, have been running an invited architectural competition for the project.

They include Dutch architect Rem Koolhaas (whose prolific firm is called Office for Metropolitan Architecture); Swiss pair Jacques Herzog and Pierre de Meuron; French architect Christian de Portzamparc; and Japanese duo Ryue Nishizawa and Kazuyo Sejima, whose Tokyo firm, SANAA, is the winner of the 2010 Pritzker.
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Old Posted May 25, 2010, 3:26 AM
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Boo..no Zaha Hadid.

But yay for Koolhaus. He designed the CCTV Headquarters in Beijing.

www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?p=38371250

As well as the Seattle Public Library.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABPub/2009/03/04/2001930082.jpg
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good stuff. i'm just as happy neither morphosis nor gehry are involved. of the ones listed my least favorite would have to be koolhaus, and that's a good thing because koolhaus is capable of some interesting stuff in his own right.

herzog and de meuron or SANAA would be my picks. even though we haven't seen their entries they've demonstrated sensitivity to local context with past projects, and they don't overrun localities with their rubber-stamp temples to self glory like gehry or that sophistic mayne. a shame broad wouldn't house his collection at lacma though.

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I'm excited to see all of the designs. The site poses some unique challenges with street frontages a good 30 vertical feet apart. So the solutions they present should be, well, pretty unique.

ed, was that a quasi-positive post?
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^hey, i'm not trying to be positive. i call it as i see it, and the selection of architects vying for broad's museum is a positive thing. so, yes. yes it is a quasi-positive post
     
     
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Old Posted May 25, 2010, 5:28 PM
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So my question is, is the Gehry design still alive? That is, will the designer of the Broad be taking it into account in his design or has he been told to assume nothing for that space?
     
     
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Hello everyone, this is my first post here.

I am very excited about the Broad museum being one step closer to coming downtown. This will be fantastic location, especially if we can get the regional connector built. Congrats to Broad for having some vision and faith in downtown.
     
     
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Old Posted May 26, 2010, 8:18 AM
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Eli Broad has done a lot of good for Los Angeles, but no one can deny that he's still an impossible tool: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/08/arts/design/08broad.html

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A billionaire philanthropist whose beneficence comes with not just strings but with ropes that could moor an ocean liner, he is known to pull his support, resign from a board or, in some cases, decline to fulfill his financial promises when a project comes together in a way he does not like.
     
     
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Old Posted May 26, 2010, 2:51 PM
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pesto, the museum is slated for the lot west of Grand Ave and south of 2nd Street, which was previously slated for a 30-ish-story residential tower yet to be designed as Phase 3 of the most recent scheme. Gehry's two tower project is slated for the lot east of Grand between 1st and 2nd Street, and is not affected by this change. What this change theoretically does is change the use of that property and hopefully get it moving faster than a Phase 3 residential building that could be 10-15 years out, if it ever were to be built.
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I hold on to a small glimmer of hope that the whole grand ave project is redesigned by some other firm.
     
     
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Old Posted May 26, 2010, 6:21 PM
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Cole: I understand the geography, it's the aesthetics that I am wondering about. A geometric, colorful, whimsical collection of short and tall buildings may not be easy to complement, especially in the context of the exuberant Disney already in the same picture. The original design for the parcel where the Broad is going looked plain vanilla.

If the Gehry is still the leading proposal (which I suppose it is), then the designer of the Broad must at least think about color, shape and mass in that context.
     
     
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Philanthropist Details Plans for a $100 Million Grand Avenue Art Museum, Though Santa Monica Is Still in the Running


by Ryan Vaillancourt, Staff Writer

Published: Thursday, May 27, 2010 3:22 PM PDT

DOWNTOWN LOS ANGELES - Eli Broad is no stranger to Grand Avenue. He helped found the Museum of Contemporary Art and the Grand Avenue Committee. With former Mayor Richard Riordan he revived the plan to build the Walt Disney Concert Hall, and he convinced the Los Angeles Unified School District to hire a big-name architect to build its $232 million arts high school on Grand Avenue. Last year, he came back to where he started, infusing a financially strapped MOCA with $30 million, essentially saving the Downtown institution.

Now, Broad wants to directly join the Grand Avenue party by building a $100 million art museum on the street, across from MOCA. If he has his way, the 120,000-square-foot facility, which would showcase some of the 2,000 works owned by his Broad Art Foundation, would open by 2012, in what he termed “an exciting, iconic piece of architecture.”

The billionaire philanthropist has spent the past several months publicly weighing two locations for the proposed museum, the other being in Santa Monica, where the foundation now has offices (a previous contender, Beverly Hills, pulled out of the running earlier this year). But in a recent meeting with Los Angeles Downtown News editors and reporters, Broad delivered his strongest public preference yet to place the museum — to be called The Broad Collections — in the Central City.

“We’d rather be Downtown,” Broad declared.

Despite the enthusiasm for Grand Avenue, Broad clearly stated that a deal is not done. He expressed skepticism about securing approvals for a project in a spot where he has to deal with four entities: the Community Redevelopment Agency, City Council, the County Board of Supervisors and the joint powers group the Grand Avenue Authority.

“Santa Monica is smart,” Broad said. “Their attitude is, look, [with us] you’re one-stop shopping. You don’t have to deal with three agencies…. Maybe in their mind they’re thinking, when you get tired of all this stuff Downtown, we’re ready.”


If Santa Monica offers a smoother path toward a groundbreaking, Broad is nevertheless motivated to build the museum on Grand Avenue because he strongly desires to help create a vital urban center in Los Angeles.

“I can’t think of any city today or in world history that’s been great without a vibrant center,” he said.

Broad is currently negotiating with local officials, and said he wants to secure approvals within 45 days. That is necessary, he said, to meet his 2012 opening goal.

Although talks continue, the proposed museum has already passed some high hurdles; the project would be folded in to the stalled but approved $3 billion Grand Avenue project, for which entitlements and environmental studies are complete.

The plan envisions the Broad Collections museum replacing phase two of developer Related Cos. project — a mixed-use structure with housing and about 100,000 square feet of retail. The change to the museum (and 20,000 square feet of Related retail) is currently under review to ensure it meets California Environmental Quality Act guidelines, but it is expected to gain approval because the museum would have a lower impact than the already cleared phase two structure, a Broad spokeswoman said.

Once the environmental review is complete, the museum will need approvals from the Grand Avenue Authority, the City Council, the CRA and the Board of Supervisors. No votes have been scheduled.

Under the proposed terms, the museum would lease the space from the CRA for $1 a year for 99 years, the same agreement the city has with MOCA’s two Downtown locations.

The Broad Foundation would spend about $80 million to develop the structure on a current parking lot bounded by lower Grand Avenue, Gen. Thaddeus Kosciuszko Way, Hope and Second streets, just south of Walt Disney Concert Hall. Broad would also lend about $23 million to the CRA to fund a three-level, 293-space parking garage. The loan would be paid back over 11 years with a low interest rate, Broad said.

The museum would sit atop the parking structure, fronting upper Grand Avenue. Broad would endow the museum with $200 million. Galleries, Broad said, would feature works by artists the foundation has collected, among them Jeff Koons, Jean-Michel Basquiat and Cindy Sherman.

A foundation official confirmed reports earlier this week by the New York Times and Los Angeles Times that it has engaged six architectural firms in a competition to design the museum. The firms are Foreign Office Architects/Alejandro Zaera Polo, Diller Scofidio Renfro, Rem Koolhaas/OMA, SANAA, Christian de Portzamparc and Herzog & de Meuron.

The preliminary proposal calls for about 40,000 square feet of gallery space and 45,000 square feet of archive and storage space. Small spaces, 6,000 square feet or less, would be set aside for the foundation’s administrative offices and a bookstore.

The project is anticipated to create nearly 100 full-time jobs.

Support and Dissent

Although many Downtown stakeholders applaud the plan, support is not unanimous. Supervisor Michael Antonovich, who has frequently criticized the Grand Avenue plan, maintains that the city and county should scrap the entire project as drawn up.

Related has been unable to attain an estimated $700 million in construction financing for phase one of the project, which would include a 48-story tower with 295 hotel rooms and 266 condominiums, a 19-story edifice with 126 market-rate apartments and 98 affordable residences. Even if credit were readily available, the residential portion of the plan may not be viable until the Downtown condominium market is otherwise absorbed, said Paul Novak, Antonovich’s planning deputy.

“We don’t think that phase one as proposed works now or will work any time in the near future,” Novak said.

Still, Antonovich sees any change to the scope of the plan — such as redefining phase two to feature the museum — as an opportunity to compel Related to start construction, or pay the penalties for missing previously agreed-upon deadlines to begin work, Novak said. Related has been accruing $250,000 a month in penalties for not starting the project by February 2009, though the fines have been deferred until construction commences.

Related is supposed to begin construction in February 2011, but the company is requesting an extension until February 2013, said Bill Witte, the developer’s West Coast president. The extension request includes language that would require Related to start construction before that date if other major mixed-use projects start elsewhere in the state, Witte said.

Meanwhile, the $56 million, 16-acre Civic Park included in the Grand Avenue plan — funded by Related’s $50 million up-front payment and accrued interest — is moving forward, with a groundbreaking expected in July, Witte said. A CRA release said the park could open by June 2012.

Witte is hopeful that the museum would kick-start the Grand Avenue plan.

“Let’s be clear here: Fundamentally the overall real estate market has to improve, the capital markets have to come back, irrespective of any other development there,” Witte said. “That said, there’s no question that it helps us tell a better story to lenders and to the hotel.”

One strong supporter of the Broad project is Jeffrey Deitch, who will take over as director of MOCA on June 1. He sees the proposed museum as an opportunity to build critical mass and raise attendance for the museum.

Broad’s collection, he said, is anchored by newer contemporary works, from the 1960s onward, whereas MOCA is more heavily weighted in earlier works, Deitch said.

“The Broad Foundation’s collection fits in very, very well, and does not really compete with MOCA’s collection,” Deitch said. “It’s complementary.”

Currently, MOCA’s annual attendance is less than 200,000, Deitch said. Both Deitch and Broad hope the new museum would bring up to 500,000 visitors a year to the two attractions.

Broad’s ambitious 2012 timeline relies in large part on the fact that the project does not require financing. If approvals come within 45 days, Broad said, an architect could be selected shortly thereafter. Meanwhile, he said the firm Matt Construction has already finished the documents for the parking garage, and that could be built in five months.

As for the rest of the Grand Avenue project, Broad is less certain.

“I can’t predict that,” Broad said. “If the economy were recovering — and I hope that it’ll continue to recover — it’ll sop up [the condo supply in Downtown] and then the question is, when can they get a construction loan? Pick a date. Three, four years from now? I don’t know.”
     
     
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Oh gawd. Wasn't his ego satisfied sufficiently by inspiring the "B" in BCAM? A temple of vanity indeed. Maybe it can be renamed after his death; he is 76 after all (wishfully delusional thinking, I know his foundation owns the cultural institutions in this city)
     
     
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