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Old Posted Apr 27, 2010, 8:34 PM
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Couldn't agree on your point on Peel Plaza. I for one hope that that project does not go forward. It just does not seem to me to be in the best interest of the city and the citizens. Use the money to make the city a better place to live which will draw more people and you may one day have the money to build such a fancy Police Headquarters. Instead we are spending the money now, which will make the city less desirable as other services are trimmed down and we will have less tax revenue to use plus a huge bill. Just doesn't make sense to me, but there is no stopping it now despite the opposition.
Well honestly I take the same stance as you on Peel Plaza. I see it as a political favor to someone on the inside. It definitely isn't the best way to spend the tax payers money.
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Old Posted Apr 27, 2010, 9:28 PM
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Just a little tidbit I thought I would throw out there. The sign that said coming soon for Harbourfront Residences has been changed to say "Now Happening!"
Let me be the first to say "It's about time!". Glad to see the project wasn't cancelled contrary to all the nay-sayers. (You know who you are.)
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Old Posted Apr 27, 2010, 10:07 PM
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Just a little tidbit I thought I would throw out there. The sign that said coming soon for Harbourfront Residences has been changed to say "Now Happening!"
Let me be the first to say "It's about time!". Glad to see the project wasn't cancelled contrary to all the nay-sayers. (You know who you are.)
Here! Here!

Glad to see some positive posts on here lately to combat that recent wave of pessimism.

Keep those pictures coming too! It's great to see the developments when you're not there to witness them yourself.
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Old Posted Apr 27, 2010, 10:20 PM
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...even though there are many hectares of land in Millidgeville that could be developed first.
This is a fact. Way back when the main plan was to suburbanize all of Millidgeville, however; all of that happened out in Rothesay & Quispamsis, and we're really paying for it now.

As for those of you discussing retail development on the East Side, those very same people in Rothesay/Quispamsis are the reason for that. By building a store at McAllister you're achieving a maximum population aim when you build in an area such as that. You're basically between both Saint John & the Valley. As well, i'm only going to assume that swampland is cheaper than property uptown.

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Here is a thought, why not convert this space to a new library location and move it out of Market Square...as a native Saint John resident, I always felt that Market Square was a bit too centralized for all your services
Personally, I love the location of the library in MS as it is. What do you propose happen to the current library if it moves out? Allow Genesys to move into the now former library and create more office space? MS is underutilized enough as it is, I wouldn't want to see it become an Atrium for offices.

It's in my opinion that anyone who honestly thinks that there is money available to restore the Paramount Theatre needs to head on over and take a step inside. Regardless of the rodent infestation, i'm pretty sure the building isn't structurally sound, and the amount of money needed to refurbish the place would probably outweigh the possible end goals.

After my statement earlier, perhaps I was being a bit too optimistic when it comes to this property. I forgot that optimism ceases to exist in Saint John. I suppose the Paramount will just be torn down and used as a parking lot for Service New Brunswick/Irving.
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Old Posted Apr 27, 2010, 11:20 PM
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I forgot that optimism ceases to exist in Saint John.
I prefer being a realistic person bordering on pessimist that is pleasantly surprised when good things happens.

I'm pretty excited that Harbourfront Residences are now happening. It will be great to have some new neighbours down a few blocks.
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As for those of you discussing retail development on the East Side, those very same people in Rothesay/Quispamsis are the reason for that. By building a store at McAllister you're achieving a maximum population aim when you build in an area such as that. You're basically between both Saint John & the Valley. As well, i'm only going to assume that swampland is cheaper than property uptown.
Building out east is certainly cheaper short-term but it sounds like the cost to fix the flooding issues is going to be very large, which shouldn't surprise anyone because it's a swamp that is barely above sea-level. Private developers and businesses reap the benefits of cheap construction in the short term while all taxpayers will be on the hook for whatever expensive infrastructure might be required to fix the problem, not to mention the potential negative environmental impacts of moving water from a degraded, polluted watershed to another watershed.
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Old Posted May 1, 2010, 3:40 PM
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Building out east is certainly cheaper short-term but it sounds like the cost to fix the flooding issues is going to be very large, which shouldn't surprise anyone because it's a swamp that is barely above sea-level. Private developers and businesses reap the benefits of cheap construction in the short term while all taxpayers will be on the hook for whatever expensive infrastructure might be required to fix the problem, not to mention the potential negative environmental impacts of moving water from a degraded, polluted watershed to another watershed.
The swamp is below sea-level.

And yeah, Welcome to Saint John.
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Old Posted May 1, 2010, 7:37 PM
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A few points:

-Technically the area isn't a swamp, it was/is a tidal marsh (parts of it are fen as well, so it's best just to refer to it as a "wetland").
-It isn't below sea level either, a couple small parts of it are, but most of it is above median sea level
-The upper part of the Marsh Creek watershed is not "degraded [and] polluted", and the Kennebecasis isn't very clean either. Combining watersheds isn't a good idea, but it's not because of any sort of pollution issue
-The stormwater diversion project is probably not going to happen, so it's a moot point anyway
-The fix to the flooding issue doesn't have to be expensive or lacking in benefits to the community.

This message brought to you by your friendly neighbourhood Marsh Creek Restoration Initiative project manager.


p.s. on the topic of the East Side, I hope everyone here has signed up for the Marsh Creek Clean-up on May 15th!
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Old Posted May 3, 2010, 10:36 PM
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p.s. on the topic of the East Side, I hope everyone here has signed up for the Marsh Creek Clean-up on May 15th!
I'm pretty excited to do this again this year. I loved doing the clean up in 2008 and hope we get good weather this year.
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you know, i knew this would happen to the paramount, Paul Daerius buys a few buildings, totally guts one, rips out everything he can sell, does 0 maintenance work on the building, then — and moans when he can't sell the building, then there is a small, but noble community effort to save the building, he sells the property anyway, and then here's what irks me the most, when it's demolished, who do you think hauls it away? Paul Daerius, that's who.

The same thing Happened to the Odeon in the 90's, and the same thing is happening again, and what do we, the citizens of saint john get out of all of this? another hole in the king square streetscape, another — parking lot courtesy of one P. Daerius. the man should be banned from buying buildings in this city.
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Old Posted May 4, 2010, 7:28 PM
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you know, i knew this would happen to the paramount, Paul Daerius buys a few buildings, totally guts one, rips out everything he can sell, does 0 maintenance work on the building, then — and moans when he can't sell the building, then there is a small, but noble community effort to save the building, he sells the property anyway, and then here's what irks me the most, when it's demolished, who do you think hauls it away? Paul Daerius, that's who.

The same thing Happened to the Odeon in the 90's, and the same thing is happening again, and what do we, the citizens of saint john get out of all of this? another hole in the king square streetscape, another — parking lot courtesy of one P. Daerius. the man should be banned from buying buildings in this city.
I always thought that was a clever business model. Buy a building with limited use and value and redevelop the land as demand merits (so far demand has not meritted for most uptown parking lots, except Tannery Court and soon Abbey St. Andrew).
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Old Posted May 5, 2010, 1:51 PM
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I always thought that was a clever business model. Buy a building with limited use and value and redevelop the land as demand merits (so far demand has not meritted for most uptown parking lots, except Tannery Court and soon Abbey St. Andrew).
It is a smart and clever model for any business to hold an asset and redevelop or sell it for its maximum profit. I don't think anyone would fault Mr Daeres for wanting to make money for himself.

The problem is that he has a tendancy to destroy heritage properties that are still potentially valuable, and build ugly surface parking lots that detract from the heritage area and add no value to anyone except for Mr Daeres pocketbook. If we were redeveloping the properties into suitable infill or other development it would be a different situation. However to claim there are no other opportunities, when none are actually ever being sought, is damaging to our City. This is not an isolated incident - see examples of Paramount, Orpheum and the property on Germain across from Horsfield. Multiple promises to redevelop this land were made when he first tore down the fire damaged buildings (which could have been saved if not left to rot away after the fire by Daeres), and none of the promises fulfilled. Now he wants to build a permanent parking lot on a prime piece of real estate on one of our nicest streets.

With the momentum of development in the main areas he is building parking lots there is plenty of impetus to develop residential property. Just in a few block area we have The Abbey, Tannery Court, Leinster Court, Queen Street infill, and mutiple other smaller infills. The demand is there, but it is a lot easier to just pave an empty lot and count your money with no regard to the aesthetic or social community of the neighbourhood!
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Article in the TJ today about Canadian Tire and Marks Work Warehouse starting construction may 15th.

http://telegraphjournal.canadaeast.com/city/article/1042645

SAINT JOHN - Workers are expected to be onsite May 14 as construction gets under way on a new Canadian Tire store on Fairville Boulevard.

Coun. Bill Farren says work to replace the old Canadian Tire on Fairville Boulevard will begin a week from Friday.

The new stand-alone store will include a 9,000-square-foot Mark's Work Wearhouse, said Coun. Bill Farren, who started talking to Canadian Tire officials more than a year ago.

It will be located between the existing Canadian Tire store and Cox Electronics and Communications and will open in the fall, Farren said. Maxim Construction has been awarded the contract.

"We've been hounding them every month.

"They finally agreed in the last few weeks that the (present west side Canadian Tire) store does not represent what they want for what's going on in Saint John," Farren said.

"We need a new and improved store."

All of Canadian Tire's new stores will include a Mark's Work Wearhouse, Farren said.

Initially, Canadian Tire planned on building a 5,000-square-foot in-store Mark's Work Wearhouse, but a study of the area suggested that a bigger store would be needed.

In fact, Mark's wanted to go even larger than 9,000 square feet, but the parent company advised that the site couldn't accommodate it, Farren said.

Initial reports put the pricetag of the big new store at $8 million; Canadian Tire officials could not be reached to confirm this and other details.

When tenders to build the store came in way over budget, Canadian Tire put the brakes on the new store, Farren said.

But all that has changed.

"At supper time last night, I got a phone call and they said that the board said that, 'even though it's beyond our price range, we want to do this for West Saint John.'"

Cox has given permission for Canadian Tire to encroach on their property during construction and Home Hardware is also allowing easements across their property.

"Everybody's co-operating and helping this go through.

"It's going to fill the whole imprint of the lot that they've got there," Farren said.

In September 2008, Farren got a scolding from Mayor Ivan Court for meeting with retail officials in Toronto without consulting council first. Farren spent nearly $1,100 out of his own pocket to make the trip.

"I was accused of being a renegade and a maverick," he said, adding that he's still talking to potential west-side bound retailers to increase growth.

With a couple of anchor stores now on Fairville Boulevard, other retailers will be attracted to the area, Farren said he's been told by those in the know.

"There's another one I was hoping to announce but they got cold feet after rumours got around that they were looking," he said.

"Hopefully, people like that will get re-interested."

The Plaza Corp strip mall, which includes a Staples and Bulk Barn, has contributed to the west side revival, and Fairville Boulevard is also home to a new Sobeys. In addition, Lancaster Mall has undergone a multimillion-dollar renovation. The old Sobeys, meanwhile, recently reopened as a large Lawtons Drugs.

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The old Sobeys, meanwhile, recently reopened as a large Lawtons Drugs.
Kind of. Only the property did, not the building itself.

Also, does anyone know what's going to happen with the old Canadian Tire location now that they're building this new one?
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Kind of. Only the property did, not the building itself.

Also, does anyone know what's going to happen with the old Canadian Tire location now that they're building this new one?
Something like this:



Unless someone comes forward who offers to pay $1, and redevelop it into some sort of entertainment centre.
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Everyone should fill out this survey from PlanSJ:

http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/828BGT7
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Kind of. Only the property did, not the building itself.

Also, does anyone know what's going to happen with the old Canadian Tire location now that they're building this new one?
The last thing I heard was that it was to be demolished, and used as part of the new stores parking lot, that the existing store parking lot could end up being further developed. I believe the gas bar will remain where it is...but who knows, as things tend to change around here every minute.
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Jeff Roach makes another brilliant post on his blog outlining the need for better pedestrian and cycling routes in the city, highlighting the difficulty of getting from Uptown to the North End either via Harbour Passage or the Main St. Viaduct.

http://blog.familyroach.com/vital-link-our-only-link

This echoes something that I have felt for a long time, which is that the North End & Mount Pleasant are cut off from the Uptown and South End because it is dangerous to cross either the Main, Somerset or Crown St. viaducts/overpasses.
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Ikea Saint John

Long way to go to reach goal for IKEA petition
Published Wednesday May 12th, 2010
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Stumble Upondel.icio.usDiggFacebookPrintEmail2 Comment(s)SAINT JOHN - Ann-Marie Clements thinks bringing an IKEA to Saint John could lower retail prices in the city.

"The area would grow if it had more competition," said Clements. "People would come from other parts of the (region)."

"Everything seems to be a bit higher here because they know they have the majority," she said.

Clements, a realtor, lived all over North America before coming to Saint John.

"The area has a lot of potential," she said of Saint John. "It's beautiful, the people are friendly, but it doesn't have shopping."

Clements isn't picky about where the IKEA store could go, but would like to see a location that's more accessible to residents outside of city limits.

"Somewhere people that live in Grand Bay or live at the other side can come (to) instead of going all the way to McAllister," she said.

Clements has 189 signatures in support of the Swedish chain coming to the Port City.

She's aiming for 10,000 signatures, and after that 100,000.

Once she has enough signatures, she will approach IKEA and city hall about bringing a store to Saint John. She says there hasn't been a lot of awareness about her pitch for an IKEA.

"I don't think people are too aware of this anywhere outside online. I'd like people to voice their opinion more," said Clements.

"If you can create that desire, people are more likely to jump on the bandwagon," she said.


The petition can be signed at www.ipetitions.com/petition/ikea_to_saint_john_nb_canada/


Perhaps we could give her a little support on this. We could even post this on the Moncton and Fredericton threads to gain more support. (he says with sarcasm)
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