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Old Posted Mar 31, 2010, 7:26 PM
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Does anyone know when these are due to be delivered? Also, what is going on with the Chinese company that is talking about suing STM for awarding Bombardier/Alstom the contract? Seems like some BS to me from the Chinese company, the fact that they don't make the product STM wants seems to be a good reason to not give them the bid. The arguments coming from their laywer/representative (not sure which) about how cheap and easy it would be to switch from rubber tires to steel wheels have been weak at best and ludicrous at worst.
Well the STM had to issue another notice of intent for 1 month, for a much bigger contract (like 1000 subway cars, 3+ billion dollars!), so other companies could bid.
(The contract is much bigger because: there have been major delays, and the "newer" cars are only 10-12 years younger than the older ones, so we might as well replace ALL of them in this long process)

Zhuzhou (Zhuzhou Electric Locomotive Company, China) and CAF (Construcciones Y Auxiliar De Ferrocarriles, Spain) added their bids before the deadline.


Then STM officially rejected Zhuzhou's bid a few weeks ago.
But it might not be over, Zhuzhou still wants to meet with gov. officials and go to court... and apparently some people tied with the metro are convinced that switching from rubber to steel wheels is really possible & economical without closing lines or something...

You can read the news from March 8 here:
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/montreal/story/2010/03/08/mtl-metro-zhuzhou-bid-rejected.html



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Old Posted Mar 31, 2010, 7:58 PM
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Downtown LRT Fact Sheet

Downtown LRT Map - Existing and Proposed Routes

Downtown LRT - Models from Europe and North America




A new Downtown LRT connection
With the decision in December 2009 to pursue future LRT expansions for West and Southeast LRT as a
separate line, work is now underway through the Capital City Downtown Plan to determine a future alignment
for the LRT corridor that will connect the future West LRT line at Grant MacEwan University (104 Avenue/109
Street) to the Southeast line at the future Quarters development (102 Avenue/96 Street).
The LRT Network Plan also calls for the development of a Central
Area LRT Circulator that will connect the downtown core to high
activity areas near the University and Old Strathcona areas. Work
underway through the Capital City Downtown Plan will define the
corridors this circulator will use within the downtown core. Future
study will be required to define how this would cross the North
Saskatchewan River and connect through Old Strathcona to the
future Southeast LRT line.
An urban-style approach to LRT will be used, which means the LRT
will include smaller scale stations with close connections to the
existing LRT stations. When designing an urban-style system, an
emphasis will be placed on aesthetics and fit within the surrounding
area; integration with transit, pedestrian and cyclist connections; and
operations that fit safely with reduced right-of-way and fewer barriers.
Downtown LRT – Corridor options
In reviewing the LRT with the work already undertaken by the Capital City Downtown Plan, two potential LRT
corridor options were identified using a combination of 107 or 108 Streets, and 102 or 103 Avenues. Further
assessment identified that a combination of 107 Street and 102 Avenue corridors best meet both the
objectives for future LRT and would best support the Downtown Plan and wider City objectives.
The review has found 107 Street has important
attributes for integrated LRT/land use planning,
including opportunities to integrate a stop with
the existing Corona LRT station, and a stop
more directly connected to Grant MacEwan
University.
102 Avenue features shorter walking distance
to existing developed areas of Downtown;
proximity to the Downtown core and high-use
activity centres. It also offers potential to
support the extension of higher density
development north of Jasper Avenue through to
103 Avenue, integration with bus service on
101 Street, and great potential for integrated
urban realm improvements on more active
streets.
New Low Floor LRT Station in Portland
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Then STM officially rejected Zhuzhou's bid a few weeks ago.

But it might not be over, Zhuzhou still wants to meet with gov. officials and go to court... and apparently some people tied with the metro are convinced that switching from rubber to steel wheels is really possible & economical without closing lines or something...

You can read the news from March 8 here:
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/montreal/story/2010/03/08/mtl-metro-zhuzhou-bid-rejected.html



"Does anyone know when these are due to be delivered?"
Thanks for the update, should be interesting. Switching to steel wheels sounds crazy to me but I'm not a transportation engineer and I don't know the ins and outs of the Montreal system. I can't imagine shutting down a Metro line for even a few months to change over would really be a viable option.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 22, 2010, 6:32 PM
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Where did the "highway thread" go??



Anyway, you all know the Turcot interchange demolition/replacement project.

Yesterday the City of Montreal wanted to express their disaproval of the government's proposal...


Here are the Ministère des Transports du Québec's plans for the replacement = $2 billion

http://www.messagerlachine.com/article-i209115-Le-grand-derangement.html


Montreal wants a more compact interchange (demolishing fewer homes), no added capacity for cars, and more room for transit, so yesterday they have shown their own proposal.
There are bus lanes and room for tram lines + development on adjacent abandoned yards. The whole thing is rumoured at $6 billion!

http://lcn.canoe.ca/lcn/infos/national/archives/2010/04/20100422-103334.html

The City's proposal looks a lot like this one in Albany NY



Here's an illustration of both from La Presse (courtesy MTQ and City of Mtl), obviously not at the same zoom level though
     
     
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The gvrmts proposal looks almost as messy as the current one. I like the city's one better. Of course, what do I know?
     
     
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The gvrmts proposal looks almost as messy as the current one. I like the city's one better. Of course, what do I know?
I love the city's new proposal.
     
     
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Huh? 93 minutes until the next train?
     
     
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Huh? 93 minutes until the next train?
Maybe it was 93 minutes until the first train went through the station.
     
     
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I love this proposal by the city. Looks cool. I think a compact interchange is what's needed for this area. Turcot was an impressive engineering feat when it was built and wowed a lot of people, representative of Mtl's status at the time as a up and coming world city. Let's replace it with an equally impressive structure with greater land efficiency, not a wasteful suburban-american-style interchange as proposed by the government.
     
     
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interesting atempt at stoping birds from going on the sign i think they mist some spots on other stuff though o well
     
     
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So... Edmonton got a new station? Congrats! When did it open?
     
     
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So... Edmonton got a new station? Congrats! When did it open?
The final 2 stations (Southgate, Century Park) of the South LRT expansion opened yesterday as an "opening day," with both stations entering full service today.

Total adds ~5.5km to the track, and is estimated to boost ridership from 75,000 to 100,000 daily.
     
     
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^Yep, quite good. It kinda felt like we were a progressive transit city with these highly used new stations that go to some popular destinations and add a lot of new track. But we still, in reality, have much to do. Luckily we're on the ball about three brand new lines that could easily be a reality over the next 10yrs.

     
     
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Huh? 93 minutes until the next train?
This was taken during the grand opening ceremonies, so yeah, no trains until after the VIP train has run the course, plaques unveiled, speeches given, etc.
     
     
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Montreal's tram is now planned to come back by 2017 (year of the 50th anniversary of Expo '67, 150th of Canada, and 375th of Montreal)


Un tramway d'ici 2017
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06/07/2010 21h13
http://fr.canoe.ca/infos/quebeccanada/archives/2010/07/20100706-211359.html

(in French obviously, and they have a picture of the new Toronto streetcar)


There's a video here: http://lcn.canoe.ca/lcn/infos/regional/archives/2010/07/20100706-204439.html
(in French too)
     
     
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Vraiement? Sur le chemin de la cote-des-neiges et Queen Mary, ensuite Rene Levesque et le Vieux Port? Fantastique!!
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hah winnipegs all over the map when it comes to transit related development the last few months

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/breakingnews/streetcar-financing-plan-panned-97920669.html
     
     
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Vraiement? Sur le chemin de la cote-des-neiges et Queen Mary, ensuite Rene Levesque et le Vieux Port? Fantastique!!
I don't get the Queen-Mary part. Will it actually go on Queen-Mary from CDN road then come back to CDN road and continue downtown?
     
     
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Vraiement? Sur le chemin de la cote-des-neiges et Queen Mary, ensuite Rene Levesque et le Vieux Port? Fantastique!!
I'm not sure if Queen Mary makes any sense...

For a long time the plan has been:
- 2 lines on Côte-des-Neiges and Parc; or a giant U on Côte-des-Neiges + René-Lévesque + Parc
- and another line, a loop on Peel, de la Commune(Old Port), Berri and René-Lévesque, or something like that.
     
     
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