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Old Posted Apr 16, 2010, 8:16 PM
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More photos. As you can see, the right (west) side of this building seems to be stopping at this floor.





     
     
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In this pic, you can see that the crane on the east side of the build has been lifted higher and now obscures the Empire State Building. Closer up, you can see that they're now building new floors, but only on that side.

     
     
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More photos. As you can see, the right (west) side of this building seems to be stopping at this floor.

Thanks. That would be the lower setback, shown on the right in this rendering...

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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704464704575208572663755594.html?mod=rss_newyork_main

Subway Station Gets Fresh Push



By MICHAEL HOWARD SAUL
April 27, 2010

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Top New York real-estate executives and the City Council speaker will make an 11th-hour push Wednesday to persuade the White House to back federal funding for a second subway station as part of the extension of the No. 7 line in Manhattan.

Officials from the Real Estate Board of New York, a trade association, and City Council Speaker Christine Quinn will meet in Washington with Vice President Joe Biden's staff in hopes of securing hundreds of millions of dollars to build a station at 10th Avenue and 41st Street.

The city, which agreed to pay for the extension for the cash-strapped Metropolitan Transportation Authority, is spending $2 billion to extend the No. 7 line from Times Square to 34th Street and 11th Avenue. A 41st Street station was originally in the plans, but Mayor Michael Bloomberg scrapped it when costs skyrocketed. The city estimates that the station would cost an extra $500 million.

Steve Spinola, president of the Real Estate Board, said a station at 41st Street would make the neighborhood a more desirable place to live and work, and failing to build it would be a "terrible, terrible mistake."

"I don't expect we will be leaving the White House with a check in our hands," he said. "But it would be nice if we can identify a structure to move forward that will, in effect, make sure this station actually gets built."

Mr. Spinola said a report commissioned by the board suggests supporters have roughly a year to secure funding before it's too late. But the city believes the time frame is closer to two weeks.

The administration plans to move forward with the next set of contracts on the project, and turning back to build a second station after these contracts are issued, would result in tens of millions of wasted dollars, an official said.

"We're open to talking about what happens if someone finds additional funding, but we're certainly not going to hold up the project hoping that happens," said Andrew Brent, a spokesman for the mayor.

"A 10th Avenue station would be nice, but the MTA and state budget problems are well-known, and the city is in no position to step in to pay for that, too."

If federal funds can be secured, Mr. Spinola said, officials in the Bloomberg administration told him there's a "strong desire to find another $250 million" in city funds.

Mr. Brent said the city made no such assurance.

Ms. Quinn, a Manhattan Democrat who is seen as a potential 2013 candidate for mayor, is leading the delegation to Washington. "We're working to rebuild an entire neighborhood, and an important key to that is having a strong transportation system," she said.

Hal Fetner, chief executive of Durst Fetner Residential and a building owner in the neighborhood, said the area is underserved by public transit.

"The city, state and federal government recognize how complex the construction and financing of this subway station is, but if we don't do it now, we will never have another opportunity," he said.
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I love the cladding on this tower! Even though the design is nothing special the glass really shines!!
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It's a monster of a building already...
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Holy moly, the building’s firing on all cylinders.
     
     
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With the size of this building and it's existing neighbors on 42nd Street, you would think a subway stop would be a no-brainer.
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With the size of this building and it's existing neighbors on 42nd Street, you would think a subway stop would be a no-brainer.
It is, especially when you factor in that it would be only one of two stops on the extended line. But they've got to get the money from somewhere.

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A building the size of a city block, now that's big!
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Gotta love the NYT, but even so, this is a who's who of the worst towers in Midtown.

EDIT: And 11TS. Sorry buddy!
     
     
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Gotta love the NYT, but even so, this is a who's who of the worst towers in Midtown.

EDIT: And 11TS. Sorry buddy!
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Don't add 7 line without station to city's list of transportation goofups



New York City Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg inspected the large cavern being constructed for the new station that will be part of the expansion of the Number 7 subway line to Hudson Yards.


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New York's mass transit system is a thing of wonder, but it was built with a few mistakes.

Like Penn Station's subway stops, where the express and local platforms are separate, so you can't wait for what comes first.

Like the Grand Central Parkway to LaGuardia, built with no room for train tracks, so you're always doomed to a $30 cab ride.

Now, the city is about to make another colossal mistake, drilling a subway line without the stop that was always supposed to be in the middle - and Mayor Bloomberg is going to stand by and watch it happen.

The city is paying to extend the 7 train from the Port Authority Bus Terminal to 34th St. and 11th Ave., where it will give the Related Companies' planned mega-development the subway access it needs.

Developers are supposed to pay for most of the costs through increased property tax, but taxpayers will be on the hook, too - starting with $46 million this year.

The project has stayed on its $2.1 billion budget, but only by eliminating a proposed station in the middle at 41st St. and 10th Ave.

For a while, the plan was just to dig a $500 million empty shell of a station there and finish it when money became available. That was sacrificed in 2007 to stay on budget.

Now the city is poised to issue new contracts to dig the rest of the tunnels, forever dooming the idea of a second station - and forever leaving 41st and 10th a 10-minute walk away from the train rumbling directly underground.

"This fight isn't over," insisted City Council Speaker Christine Quinn, who represents the area and went to Washington last week to pitch the project for federal stimulus funds.

The word from Bloomberg's side of City Hall is he would welcome federal funds for the second stop, and might even find some city money if the feds pick up the bulk of it.

When Deputy Mayor Howard Wolfson made the rounds of the city Congressional delegation in Washington last week, though, he never brought it up.

Does Bloomberg want to land a $2.1 billion project on budget no matter what? Does he not want to get behind a crusade unlikely to succeed? Does he truly believe $500 million would be better spent elsewhere?

The 7 train extension was always about making real estate more valuable, not about helping straphangers. That's why the Metropolitan Transportation Authority is putting its scarce cash into the Second Ave. subway, not the 7 train.

Already, people are moving into new apartment buildings on 10th Ave. without a subway station. Related is building one directly above the phantom station, and leaving empty spaces for stairwells just in case.

The message is clear: The real estate industry will build on 10th Ave. without a subway, but not on 11th.

So that's what the developers will get. Everyone else will have to live with it.
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Only makes sense to have that second stop built, regardless of the financial situation. In the end, the station will pay for itself once the area gets built up.
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Like Penn Station's subway stops, where the express and local platforms are separate, so you can't wait for what comes first.
I like how this is listed as a mistake. It was actually quite intentional. The people who built the subway knew these would be major transfer points (learned from Grand Central), and realized that letting people make cross platform transfers from local->express or vice-versa would create a traffic disaster.

On that note, this station should absolutely be built. As it is I have to walk to the little pie company instead of being able to ride a train there.
     
     
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Old Posted May 6, 2010, 2:42 AM
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The people who built the subway knew these would be major transfer points (learned from Grand Central), and realized that letting people make cross platform transfers from local->express or vice-versa would create a traffic disaster.
That's why it's viewed as a mistake. I believe it's also the only line at Penn Station where the local and express are separate. But ever try getting from one side of the line (1) to the other at 59th Street?

Anyway, its only natural that a subway stop be added to the site. Also, it would be a closer station for those on the northern fringes of Hudson Yards than the station at 34th Street. But if there's no money, there is no station, regardless of whatever Related does at the site.

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Already, people are moving into new apartment buildings on 10th Ave. without a subway station. Related is building one directly above the phantom station, and leaving empty spaces for stairwells just in case.
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