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A rebirth for South Salt Lake?
Redevelopment » Building along 2100 South hoped to recast image.

By Drek P. Jensen
The Salt Lake Tribune


What does a beleaguered suburb saddled with a pinched tax base and a bum image do? Erect a downtown, of sorts, anchored by a train, a streetcar, an entertainment zone and, hopefully, a new identity. That's the strategy in South Salt Lake, which has designated a new redevelopment area along 2100 South called the Central Point Project.


Trax riders leave the Trax station at 2100 South and 200 West in South Salt Lake. South Salt Lake has declared the area a redevelopment project to be called Central Point project, hoping to turn blighted strip into a new downtown of sorts with restaurants, shops and theaters. (Al Hartmann / The Salt Lake Tribune)



New Mayor Cherie Wood and the city's first-ever economic-development director hope the property-tax investment will transform the corridor from Main Street to Interstate 15 into a new hub, complete with shops, restaurants and theaters.

"We have to change what the perception of South Salt Lake is," says Garth Day, hired as the city's economic-development boss in January. "This is our chance for a downtown development that the city doesn't have."

Last month, South Salt Lake's City Council, acting as the redevelopment board, approved a blight study, which is the first step in creating a redevelopment area. RC Willey, at 2301 S. 300 West, would not be included because the furniture store is part of a previous RDA.

If ultimately approved, the Central Point formula would provide tax breaks to businesses and developers within the new RDA. The boundary extends from 2100 South to Interstate 80 between Main Street and Interstate 15. Property taxes would be captured from any schools or other public agency in the project area.

Day notes the suburb is hamstrung by a host of publicly owned properties that do not provide revenue. About 40 percent of South Salt Lake's taxable real estate -- including the rails, freeways, school district parcels and a sewage-treatment plant-- is off the tax rolls.

"That's a challenge for us," Day says. "We have to be more aggressive than other communities."

But since Central Point straddles two freeways, major thoroughfares and public transit, Day is convinced the location is prime for a "renaissance."

"It's great that they're looking at a different model for development that sounds more urban and infill," says Bob Farrington, economic-development director for neighboring Salt Lake City. "That's exactly what I'd be doing."

Farrington notes a downtownlike focal point, centered around the Central Pointe TRAX Station, could provide an attractive bookend for a streetcar planned to run east to the Sugar House business district.

"How successful it is -- and how quickly it pays off -- is part of another question about how big the market is," Farrington says. "Hopefully, there's enough business and population to go around."

The goal, Day says, is to piggyback off the neighboring Market Station development, planned from Main to State Street just south of 2100 South. Financing for Market Station recently dried up, but Day says "several" developers have expressed interest in that block and its blueprint of housing, office and retail to energize the suburb's northern gateway.

"No one's really pulled the trigger on it," Day adds. "You'll see something happen there hopefully very quickly."

Overall, officials envision a multiblock stretch of pedestrian-friendly urban living, where a density of retail and a transit hub can serve the planned condos and apartments.

Negotiations with property owners have yet to begin in earnest, but Day says the suburb hopes to avoid condemning any property.

For Pat's Barbecue & Catering, a popular restaurant that serves burnt ends and has live music, Central Point will be a likely benefit. "Pat's is a venue we want to help grow and expand," Day says about the eatery at 155 W. Commonwealth Ave. (2145 South). "It would be an anchor of the entertainment district."

That's sweet news for owner Pat Barber, who hopes to expand since taking a chance on the marginal neighborhood when he opened in 2003.

"I can only hope that it's going to do good for the greater community," Barber says. "I have been talking with the city about doing something in the area for years. Now we have a new team in South Salt Lake. I'm really, really excited for the future."

Tools now in hand, South Salt Lake hopes the recession fades in time to use it.

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New Renderings of University projects proposed or under construction

I have a pdf file with renderings of projects proposed or under construction. I just don't know how to attach the pdf. Can someone tell me how to do it?
     
     
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I don't think you can attach them. You'd have to upload them somewhere and give us the link. I have a host if you need someone to upload them.
     
     
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Property owners stall Grand Boulevard plan - Taxation » City agrees to start over after enough owners protest special fee.

http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_14878965

For now, it's the boulevard of broken dreams.

But Salt Lake City Mayor Ralph Becker hopes lowering the cost for a North Temple makeover ultimately will convince enough area business owners between downtown and the airport to help fund the street's transformation into a grand gateway to Utah's capital.


On Tuesday, city officials confirmed that the property owners of more than 50 percent of North Temple's frontage have protested a special assessment area that would charge the owners a one-time and annual fee to pay for new lights, trees, sidewalks and public art. The idea is to beautify the street to greet the new airport TRAX train. But the number opposed is 51.5 percent, killing the tax district.

So the city is starting over. A new proposal calls for slashing the lighting fee from $185 to $140. More significant, Mayor Ralph Becker wants to reduce an annual maintenance fee of $15.50 per foot of frontage over the next 30 years to $3 per foot...

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I have a pdf file with renderings of projects proposed or under construction. I just don't know how to attach the pdf. Can someone tell me how to do it?
Could you Private Message those to me?
     
     
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A rebirth for South Salt Lake?
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This sounds really hopeful. South Salt Lake has really needed some sort of investement.
City leaders also need to come up with something for State Street from I-80 south to 3900 South, and then Murray needs to do something about 3900 to Vine Street. It's really run down and sad.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 14, 2010, 11:29 PM
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Austin

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?p=4795166#post4795166

Take a look at the latest Austin pics. Their downtown has surpassed Salt Lake City in height and amount of highrises. Yet, I think their metro population is smaller. Why is downtown SLC smaller than Austoin, or even Des Moines, Omaha, or Calgary??!
     
     
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Take a look at the latest Austin pics. Their downtown has surpassed Salt Lake City in height and amount of highrises. Yet, I think their metro population is smaller. Why is downtown SLC smaller than Austoin, or even Des Moines, Omaha, or Calgary??!
It's Sandy's fault. Instead of concentrating business/highrises downtown, we spread them all over this huge valley.
     
     
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It's Sandy's fault. Instead of concentrating business/highrises downtown, we spread them all over this huge valley.
Really? I truly don't see many highrises outside of downtown... A few 5-7 story buildings around, but not many. Most cities have more towers outside of their downtowns than SLC.
     
     
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Old Posted Apr 15, 2010, 1:16 AM
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Nope, Austin's metro is 1.8million, significantly larger than Salt Lake's 1.1. Austin is the capitol of the second largest sate in America, and contains one of the largest Universities as well (University of Texas).

http://www.census.gov/popest/metro/tables/2009/CBSA-EST2009-01.csv

Also, downtown Salt Lake doesn't feel smaller to me then Omaha or Des Moines, though they do have at least one taller tower, but overall, it doesn't seem like it. They don't have the same venues neither (like ESA).

But hey, downtown just added a high-rise and has two more topped off.

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Nope, Austin's metro is 1.8million, significantly larger than Salt Lake's 1.1. Austin is the capitol of the second largest sate in America, and contains one of the largest Universities as well (University of Texas).

http://www.census.gov/popest/metro/tables/2009/CBSA-EST2009-01.csv

Also, downtown Salt Lake doesn't feel smaller to me then Omaha or Des Moines, though they do have at least one taller tower, but overall, it doesn't seem like it. They don't have the same venues neither (like ESA).

But hey, downtown just added a high-rise and has two more topped off.
I'd be careful in saying that the metro is significantly smaller. While on the surface it may seem that way, they really aren't that different in size. Austin's MSA spans about 30 miles north and south while SLC's MSA doesn't even include North Salt Lake City. Looking at PCSAs (primary census statistical area) are really a better comparison for what you all are talking about. In this case, here's how they compare:

Austin 1,750,224
SLC 1,743,364

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_of_Un...statistical_areas#cite_note-PopEstCBSA-5
     
     
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call me naieve or foolish, but I hope that GreenBro wasn't lying about that highrise. SLC totally deserves a 30-40 story pls highrise. It's the big threshold that SLC just can't seem to pass!
     
     
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I'd be careful in saying that the metro is significantly smaller. While on the surface it may seem that way, they really aren't that different in size. Austin's MSA spans about 30 miles north and south while SLC's MSA doesn't even include North Salt Lake City. Looking at PCSAs (primary census statistical area) are really a better comparison for what you all are talking about. In this case, here's how they compare:

Austin 1,750,224
SLC 1,743,364

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_of_Un...statistical_areas#cite_note-PopEstCBSA-5
I've used the same argument and it has some merit. But look, the Census Bureau measures areas based off of many factors, including who works where, and they deem that Salt Lake's metro is what it is, and doesn't feel those other areas warrant enough connection to Salt Lake to add them to the MSA. MSA's are the standard use for comparing areas.

With that in mind, San Antonio is only an hour from Austin, but we're not going to include that...

Every major area typically has other areas close to it. Plus, Austin has over 700,000 in the city limits.

The more downtown improves, and the more amenities it provides, the more likely it will attract business and get a larger tower.

We have to realize Utah is still only the 34th largest state in America. It's now in a period of rapid growth.

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A city is much more than tall buildings. I'll take DT Salt Lake over Des Moines anyday.
     
     
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I use to live in downtown Omaha in a highrise apartment building and their downtown was/is nothing like Salt Lake's. Though they have a real nice area where all the hipsters hang out, their CBD is a far cry from ours.
     
     
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Everyone, check out the latest renderings on the courthouse! whether you like the design or not, the renderings are sharp! I am having problems with my flickr account otherwise I would printscreen, crop them in photoshop, put them in flickr, and attach their url address to here for all of you to see. So, please someone else do it! It's a great update to a significant project for SLC!

http://www.tphifer.com/#/salt-lake-city-courthouse
     
     
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call me naieve or foolish, but I hope that GreenBro wasn't lying about that highrise. SLC totally deserves a 30-40 story pls highrise. It's the big threshold that SLC just can't seem to pass!
I don't know, it seems like no one on this forum wants taller buildings in Downtown SLC. I've proposed a couple, and all I hear is: "I'd take several shorter buildings rather than one tall building," or "that building is too tall, it sticks out like a sore thumb next to the other existing buildings."

I don't know, I think Salt Lake City is overdue for a new signature tower.



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Really? I truly don't see many highrises outside of downtown... A few 5-7 story buildings around, but not many. Most cities have more towers outside of their downtowns than SLC.
There are millions of s.f. of office space outside downtown.
     
     
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Great find Orlando I really, really love this building.

UB: I agree. We need a company or developer who actually wants to create that 'signature' tower that they know will stand out and be a trademark of the city. I think FSB trade to do it with the current Wells Fargo building, but they went more for standing out design wise, as opposed to height wise. Now it's just starting to blend in.
     
     
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Has anyone checked out this new building yet? I like the treatment of the exterior. Restaurant sounds like it will be a great addition to the area.

New Mediterranean eatery to spice up east-bench hub
Sea Salt » Restaurant replaces gas station; neighbors worry about lack of parking.


http://www.sltrib.com/business/ci_14859924



Tulip trees sprout where gas pumps once stood. In their shadow, a mossy skin crawls on the handcrafted stone that envelopes this brand-new but preternaturally aged building.

When it opens later this month, investors hope the Sea Salt restaurant helps this east-bench business hub blossom anew...
     
     
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