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Old Posted Apr 8, 2010, 6:17 AM
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the West End was where all the street prostitutes plied their trade. They eventually moved to the Seymour-Richards area. I am not sure where they are today.
i'm thinking hastings/nanaimo and kingsway between knight and victoria... at least thats where ive seen them
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Nice render of 999 Seymour - I like the height of the ground floor lobby glass - makes it look like an office tower at grade (i.e. compared to the piecemeal retail at The Spot next door).
     
     
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There is 20 alone on comox street. Some in good shape, others look like trash. The westend is stagnant and needs some good architecture. Take the three right beside the Baptist church, that is a prime redevelopment site for something that is a little bit more street and alley way friendly. There is one on Thurlow street at Harwood that looks like its falling completely apart. Its about time it too was torn down for something new. Remember this skyscraper page, we're supposed to be progressive for new architecture and tall buildings.
     
     
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are you talking about hookers?
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Lets get this back on topic, "downtown updates" keeping in mind what this forum is about.
     
     
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I hadn't posted the details about this project, I thought it had been previously posted but I can't seem to find anything expect a mention in a article about the Rolston.

1304 Hornby is applying for a rezoning, Concert would like to build a 31 storey building with some retail along the bottom and the rest residential. Will be an interesting area to watch with this, the Rolston, and Cressey's project on Howe, plus quite a few infill projects in the immediate area.

Project info sheet
http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/planning/rezoning/applications/1304hornby/documents/infosheet.pdf

Context Plan
http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/planning/rezoning/applications/1304hornby/documents/context.pdf

Massing Context
http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/planning/rezoning/applications/1304hornby/documents/massing.pdf

Axonometric Study
http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/planning/rezoning/applications/1304hornby/documents/axonometric.pdf

Elevation Drawings
http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/planning/rezoning/applications/1304hornby/documents/elevations.pdf

Floor Plan Drawings
http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/planning/rezoning/applications/1304hornby/documents/floorplans.pdf

Landscape Plan
http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/planning/rezoning/applications/1304hornby/documents/landscape.pdf


Personally I'm disappointed in this proposal, but only due to the lack of commercial space. The city has taken so many steps in limiting the loss of commercial space and even encouraged additional commercial space whenever possible. Yet here we have an example were 12,000sqft of current commercial space will be replaced with under 3000sqft of commercial. Now obvious the net loss of 9000sqft isn't very much but it certainly doesn't set a good example.
     
     
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Lets get this back on topic, "downtown updates" keeping in mind what this forum is about.
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There is 20 alone on comox street. Some in good shape, others look like trash.
hookers or buildings?

the page starts with a guy talkking about hookers this sounded like hookers to me

just saying
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Old Posted Apr 9, 2010, 4:04 AM
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Pictures of 1304 hornby from Jlousa's PDF:



Looks like the design didn't require much thinking... roof lantern, check; trellis over penthouse, check; fake box protrusion, check...

Reject it, UDP, turn it downnnnnnn
     
     
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the head downtown - pics by me

its not as big as I thought it would be




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Old Posted Apr 9, 2010, 6:08 AM
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hookers or buildings?

the page starts with a guy talkking about hookers this sounded like hookers to me

just saying

oh yeah sorry, i thought this was the hookers thread.

i dont know much about buildings or architecture but i'm a connoisseur when it comes to not so classy broads
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Old Posted Apr 9, 2010, 6:10 AM
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Looks like the design didn't require much thinking... roof lantern, check; trellis over penthouse, check; fake box protrusion, check...
Sounds like just what the doctor ordered!
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This article doesn't relate specifically to downtown, but downtown is the main focus. He references some interesting sounding developments, but there isn't a lot of detail included. Some of the projects seem totally out of the blue, like a 3rd phase of the convention centre (?!), which the print version indicates might go where the city is planning the waterfront hub. Plus the reference to the Marine Building doesn't make any sense.

Anyways, the point of the article seems to be that we should allow more height to pay for amenities. And a boom is coming.

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Post-Olympic building boom to transform skyline

The lack of a cohesive plan is a missed opportunity for Vancouver's long-term development

By Miro Cernetig, Vancouver Sun - April 9, 2010


The Vancouver waterfront is part of the development mega-boom that's in the works.
Photograph by: Bill Keay, PNG, Vancouver Sun


Don't be fooled by the seeming lull in the city after the Olympics. Inside the offices of Vancouver's developers, things are humming.

They're working on multi-billion-dollar plans to fundamentally remake the city, a development boom that will unfold over the next few years and rival what happened after Expo 86. The skyline will never be the same.

Here are just a few of the projects on the drawing board: the re-roofing of BC Place ($458 million); an adjacent casino and hotel complex ($450 million); at least half-a-dozen residential towers ($1 billion); the possibility of a new art gallery ($200 million to $350 million); two major condo towers on the south end of the Burrard Street Bridge ($500 million); and, the latest I have heard about, the creation of a multi-billion-dollar transportation and commercial complex on the Burrard Inlet waterfront ($2 billion plus). Oh, and don't forget a third phase of the Vancouver Convention Centre.

This doesn't include, incidentally, the office towers proposed by the Aquilini Investment Group around GM Place or the major developments that are also going up in Surrey, Richmond and other municipalities. These all add up to another $1 billion or more.

It's a breathtaking investment in real estate, one of the largest in Vancouver's history. However, it raises a question that needs to be answered -- now.

With between $5 billion and $10 billion in development being planned, most of it in the City of Vancouver, what exactly is the overall master plan? Is there a coherent architectural and economic development vision to ensure this building boom serves the public interest as well as the long-term economic health of the city and its developers?

Unfortunately, so far the answer is no.

All those projects -- a mix of private and public investment, spread between private land holders, developers and a multiplicity of municipal, provincial and federal governments and agencies -- have no overarching strategic vision to speak of. It's an ad hoc building spree -- and that's a missed opportunity for this city's long-term urban development.

Massive real estate developments undoubtedly create wealth. Government leaders, in partnership with the development industry, need to be sure they get a fair piece of those profits and amenities for tomorrow.

Consider the Vancouver Art Gallery. With a debate raging over whether it should be relocated or renovated, there is now an opportunity to raise funds for its development by trading building heights and density with developers.

It cries out for a public debate about where the VAG goes, given the city's skyline is about to drastically change.

Could a new art gallery be built on Burrard Inlet, along with a new phase of the convention centre? If there's going to be a multi-billion-dollar transportation hub built around Vancouver's Marine Building, linking SkyTrain, the Canada Line and commuter rail, all just a few blocks from where the art gallery now sits, perhaps the VAG ought to just stay put.

This development mega-boom that's in the works is ultimately a necessity for our growing city. The fundamental reality of this decade is that taxpayers are pretty much tapped out. The cash windfalls governments do get will increasingly come through partnerships with the private sector, including developers.

So if we're going to get a new skyline, it may be time to think bigger. Why not start building higher? Adding extra floors and density means a greater opportunity for the city and province to rake in cash for amenities or even demand a larger share of the profits.

Consider the proposed casino. At the moment, the architectural drawings suggest two squat buildings, well below the height of the new stadium. Add extra floors and you won't just have a more dramatic piece of architecture, supplying money for all the desired green attributes, but there will also be a larger hotel that will provide more revenue streams in the years ahead.

Like most politicians, Premier Gordon Campbell and Mayor Gregor Robertson want a legacy. It now appears it's about to go up around them. Getting this mega-development right, taking the 10,000-foot view to extract full public value, is a job both of them need to sign up for.

Like most politicians, Premier Gordon Campbell and Mayor Gregor Robertson want a legacy. It now appears it's about to go up around them. Getting this mega-development right, taking the 10,000- foot view to extract full public value, is a job both of them need to sign up for.

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Isn't that an odd article eh? I've heard about all the projects he listed there, other than the $2 billion waterfront hub and convention centre expansion. AFAIK, the waterfront hub was just a concept and there was certainly no developer actively seeking to build it. It would be a great site for a third convention centre, though I doubt the government could get away with building another one after the cost overruns of phase 2 - plus, is there really that much demand for exhibition space?
     
     
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This is just revolting. Where is the vomit emoticon?
Yeah I am really not understanding the fascination with the box that our architects seem to be going through, especially in cases like this where it seems tacked on for effect. It's sort of the racing-stripes-on-a-civic of tower design right now.
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I am thinking now that we all live in the Matrix and downtown Vancouver is actually a SimCity3000 map and our developers/UDP are actually a SKURK/BAT editor. Plop plop plop! Unlock the arcologies!!
     
     
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This is just revolting. Where is the vomit emoticon?
And those renders don't even show the north side of the tower! (which is worse).

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Isn't that an odd article eh? I've heard about all the projects he listed there, other than the $2 billion waterfront hub and convention centre expansion. AFAIK, the waterfront hub was just a concept and there was certainly no developer actively seeking to build it. It would be a great site for a third convention centre, though I doubt the government could get away with building another one after the cost overruns of phase 2 - plus, is there really that much demand for exhibition space?
Hadn't heard of the two major ($500M) condo towers at the south end of the Burrard Bridge. I wouldn't think that tall towers would be allowed over there.
     
     
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Hadn't heard of the two major ($500M) condo towers at the south end of the Burrard Bridge. I wouldn't think that tall towers would be allowed over there.
Maybe it's on the native land... if it was there they could build to whatever height they wanted, couldn't they?
     
     
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Yeah, that's probably the only possibility.
     
     
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We're planning a third phase of the convention centre already??? I didn't think that would come for at least another 10 years, very much like how the recent convention centre wasn't planned until the mid-1990s...10-years after Canada Place was built.

The site east of Canada Place by the future transportation hub is certainly the most logical and perhaps the only location the convention centre can expand into....
     
     
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