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Old Posted Mar 27, 2010, 12:37 AM
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do you have to tocuh the rail if u stay in the non rail area its basically safe?
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Old Posted Mar 27, 2010, 12:43 AM
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The guideway intrusion system is indeed only at the station platforms, it's not system wide as the rest of the system is not designed to be easily accessable by foot. Zwei is probably going to twist this incident for his own advantage, even though it rarely ever happens.


Expo: metal plates on platform tracks, when weight on the plates is detected the intrusion system will go off

Millennium: optical light sensors are located on the tracks to detect anything that has fallen

Canada: optical light sensors on the tracks like Millennium PLUS on the edge of the platform (where the yellow line is) as if it were an invisible platform barrier. If an object crosses that beam, an automated message will ask patrons to step away from the line.
     
     
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Despite the fact that you have a much greater chance of getting hurt by LRT / conventional train..
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 27, 2010, 5:49 AM
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do you have to tocuh the rail if u stay in the non rail area its basically safe?
The track rails are not electrified.

On the side of the guideway are two power rails that supply the power to the trains. You can see them from any platform because they are on the guideway wall opposite the platform edge - safely way from you as long as you remain on the platform or inside the train.
     
     
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The guideway intrusion system is indeed only at the station platforms, it's not system wide as the rest of the system is not designed to be easily accessable by foot. Zwei is probably going to twist this incident for his own advantage, even though it rarely ever happens.


Expo: metal plates on platform tracks, when weight on the plates is detected the intrusion system will go off

Millennium: optical light sensors are located on the tracks to detect anything that has fallen

Canada: optical light sensors on the tracks like Millennium PLUS on the edge of the platform (where the yellow line is) as if it were an invisible platform barrier. If an object crosses that beam, an automated message will ask patrons to step away from the line.
Yup this is our frien Zwei's response

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This is the third time in as many weeks where a person walking on the SkyTrain guideway stops SkyTrain servcie; of course people walk all over LRT/tram track everyday and with ;ding-ding’ of a tram bell, they get out of its way!
I have images of a toy train in my head Ding Ding.

Of course for his "Ding Ding" to work. The train has to travel at a nice slow pace so that people have time to get off.

Meanwhile I'm on my skytrain flying past all the people stuck on the "Ding Ding" train.

As for the Canada Line I thought there was some kind of sensor. near the yellow portion. Found it weird every time I just happened to step over a bit. Suddenly there was an announcement on the PA system.
     
     
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Yup this is our frien Zwei's response



I have images of a toy train in my head Ding Ding.

Of course for his "Ding Ding" to work. The train has to travel at a nice slow pace so that people have time to get off.

Meanwhile I'm on my skytrain flying past all the people stuck on the "Ding Ding" train.

As for the Canada Line I thought there was some kind of sensor. near the yellow portion. Found it weird every time I just happened to step over a bit. Suddenly there was an announcement on the PA system.
Zwei's LRT dreams - people walking on the tracks and not being injured or slowing the service.

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Holy crap, that video is friggin hilarious..
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 27, 2010, 11:32 PM
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Jesus, I thought I was looking at Broadway with an LRT ten years from now.
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Old Posted Mar 27, 2010, 11:37 PM
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you sure that isn't a render of the new city hall?
     
     
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Yup this is our frien Zwei's response



I have images of a toy train in my head Ding Ding.

Of course for his "Ding Ding" to work. The train has to travel at a nice slow pace so that people have time to get off.

Meanwhile I'm on my skytrain flying past all the people stuck on the "Ding Ding" train.

As for the Canada Line I thought there was some kind of sensor. near the yellow portion. Found it weird every time I just happened to step over a bit. Suddenly there was an announcement on the PA system.
Sure lets add the ding ding noise for the lrt I'm sure the people of Vancouver will be perfectly fine with the nice loud noise that it is. After all this is Vancouver we are talking about we love being loud an noisy around here
     
     
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Old Posted Mar 28, 2010, 12:04 AM
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Olympic transit may turn small profit

By Jeff Nagel - BC Local News

Higher fare revenue during the Olympics should ensure TransLink at least breaks even on the extra service it added to carry huge numbers of passengers to free concerts, pavilions and street parties.

Vanoc is paying TransLink $17 million to cover the extra transit added to handle Games spectators – whose tickets included an extra fee for transit use – as well as workers and volunteers.

But far more people boarded the system than the expected numbers going to official Games venues.

Final statistics released Monday show an average of 1.58 million people used transit each weekday of the Olympics, up 31 per cent from normal levels.

That meant running most of the system at or near capacity during the Games and running not just the 160 reserve buses TransLink had readied but still more by raiding spares in the maintenance yards.

Those extra costs should be more than covered by the cash fares as well as discount tickets and passes sold during the Games, spokesman Ken Hardie said.

"We'll probably do a little bit better than break-even," he said, adding the accounting isn't finished but a big profit isn't expected.

More than 26 million people rode transit during the 17 days of the Olympics and they overwhelmingly took rapid transit lines.

Canada Line carried an average of 228,000 people per Olympic weekday – more than double a normal weekday. It hit more than triple normal levels on weekends.

The Expo and Millennium Lines racked up 394,000 trips per weekday, up 64 per cent, but that ballooned to more than triple normal on Olympic Saturdays and four and a half times normal levels on Sundays.

SeaBus also ran at more than double its normal weekday levels, carrying nearly 44,000 daily. On weekends, SeaBuses carried around five times their normal numbers.

West Coast Express carried 58 per cent more passengers than normal, or 17,400 per day. One train rolled with a record 2,970 passengers, more than double the 1,350 seated capacity.

Regular buses, however, recorded only an eight per cent increase, to 896,000 daily boardings during the Games.

That didn't mean Olympics travellers shunned the bus system, Hardie said.

Instead, the lower number there is because of a roughly 30 per cent decline in regular transit passengers.

Universities weren't in session, many people scheduled holidays during the Games and still others found ways to telework rather than commute, Hardie said.

Building the price of transit into event tickets is something that could be pursued in the future with other major sports or cultural events, Hardie said.

"If we can work an arrangement like that with the Lions and the Canucks and some of the promoters that put on some of these big shows, then we'll do that," he said.

The theory is that concert- or game-goers whose tickets give them transit use would ride instead of drive and park, but making spectators pay for transit that they might not use would be a decision for event organizers.

The Olympic shift to transit depended heavily on a successful 30 per cent cut in vehicle trips into downtown, spurred by road and parking restrictions.

It was also crucial that key destinations were close to rapid transit stops.

Hardie said it was almost a temporary return to the old hub-and-spoke travel pattern where people overwhelmingly headed downtown.

The reality of daily Metro Vancouver commuting now is that trips crisscross the region with no consistent pattern and are much harder to serve by transit.

But TransLink CEO Ian Jarvis said one lesson of the Games is that it underscores the importance for efficient transportation of concentrating high-density housing, employment and other popular destinations along frequent transit corridors as the region grows.

Jarvis hopes what was a first-time experience taking transit for many will be repeated in the future.

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Old Posted Mar 28, 2010, 12:09 AM
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Future transit expansion should be put to suburbs

Published: March 27, 2010 5:00 AM

The Editor:

This is a plea for sanity. I want to strongly protest the planned route for the Evergreen Line in making a left-hand turn and truncating at the dead end of the Coquitlam Town Centre, up against the mountains. This does nothing for future expansion towards Port Coquitlam, Maple Ridge and Pitt Meadows, and limits future projected ridership towards the east.

If TransLink is serious about wanting enough people to make its rapid transit line a feasible operation it should be looking at building towards the suburbs, not the mountains. That TransLink can’t seem to see this makes you wonder about its objectives.

The market for future expansion is the suburbs. All those cars now hurtling through Port Coquitlam and Port Moody on their way downtown morning and afternoon is out to the east. Why do you think we needed those bridges?

TransLink continues to ignore revenue from installing turnstiles, which every other rapid transit system has, and revenue from park-and-ride lots, which are necessary to encourage people to ride. You have to wonder just how much money in fares TransLink lost during the Olympics that could have been used towards building the Evergreen Line.

Those of us coming from cities with good public transit shake our heads in complete puzzlement at TransLink’s myopia.

The fact there is no place to park a car at Braid station is a key factor in why SkyTrain doesn’t get more use. Every other transit system uses this method to lure an increased ridership. Municipalities that want to attract rapid transit should consider providing such lots to encourage expansion in their area.

SkyTrain expansion means more people wanting to live there because of the ease of travel; a plus for communities.

Please reconsider this extremely short-sighted growth plan towards the Coquitlam Town Centre. The future gold is out there, the suburbs to the east, not the mountains.

M. Schooff, Port Coquitlam
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Old Posted Mar 28, 2010, 1:19 AM
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I say terminate it at Douglas and build a "T" if it needs to expand in the future. Even if it were to need to expand, that is easily 15-20 years out.
     
     
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Olympic transit may turn small profit

By Jeff Nagel - BC Local News

Higher fare revenue during the Olympics should ensure TransLink at least breaks even on the extra service it added to carry huge numbers of passengers to free concerts, pavilions and street parties.

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Has anyone heard much about the Olympic White buses (Edison Transportation) that seemed to be running empty all over town?
Or the Olympic Bus Network that was supposed to get people from the Mainland to Whistler / Cypress and back?

I saw a clip on the news a few weeks ago that lots of Canadian drivers for the Olympics were let go just before the Paralympics (because they didn't need so many buses and drivers), even though they were assured of work until March 21st. Then it came out that the American company running the buses kept American drivers for the Paralympics.
     
     
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Has anyone heard much about the Olympic White buses (Edison Transportation) that seemed to be running empty all over town?
Or the Olympic Bus Network that was supposed to get people from the Mainland to Whistler / Cypress and back?

I saw a clip on the news a few weeks ago that lots of Canadian drivers for the Olympics were let go just before the Paralympics (because they didn't need so many buses and drivers), even though they were assured of work until March 21st. Then it came out that the American company running the buses kept American drivers for the Paralympics.
Something should have smelled fishy as soon as we had a foreign company using foreign workers at our games. :\
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Exclamation I want to know something .....

WHY is Zwei so AGAINST Skytain metro to UBC?

I know he wants rail for the valley, and that is legitimate, especially for commuters.

BUT .... why does he want "ding ding " surface trolleys from Commercial to UBC ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
* To save money so there'll be more money to spend on Valley rail? ? ?
* Because he has a phobia of tunnel travel ? ? ? ?
* Just to be dog-in-the-manger, and mean and spiteful ? ? ? WHY????

Someone tell me please. This is so baffling and weird.........

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WHY is Zwei so AGAINST Skytain metro to UBC?

I know he wants rail for the valley, and that is legitimate, especially for commuters.

BUT .... why does he want "ding ding " surface trolleys from Commercial to UBC ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
* To save money so there'll be more money to spend on Valley rail? ? ?
* Because he has a phobia of tunnel travel ? ? ? ?
* Just to be dog-in-the-manger, and mean and spiteful ? ? ? WHY????

Someone tell me please. This is so baffling and weird.........
He's a PIMBY (Please in my back yard).

All he really cares about is having a train run through where he lives. He probably has some commute that is currently undeserved by transit and wants to see a train take him to where he wants to go.

Plain and simple, when he sees $1 spent on transit in the City of Vancouver, that's one less dollar to make is dream possible. Skytrain IS expensive, and the more of it we build the less the government has to spend on the Valley. However he takes any point to try and sway people away from Skytrain, even though light metro has served the region splendidly and has been an incredible return on our investment. Sure we could spend less and have rail in the valley, but it would return less for our investment.
     
     
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He's a PIMBY (Please in my back yard).

All he really cares about is having a train run through where he lives. He probably has some commute that is currently undeserved by transit and wants to see a train take him to where he wants to go.

Plain and simple, when he sees $1 spent on transit in the City of Vancouver, that's one less dollar to make is dream possible. Skytrain IS expensive, and the more of it we build the less the government has to spend on the Valley. However he takes any point to try and sway people away from Skytrain, even though light metro has served the region splendidly and has been an incredible return on our investment. Sure we could spend less and have rail in the valley, but it would return less for our investment.
The spooky thing is, he seems to be gaining converts in some areas. Most of the people who listen to him are untravelled anyway, it would seem, but still....
     
     
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