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[osirisboy]

does this project include the parking lot behind eldarodo

[Prometheus]

Originally Posted by jsbertram

Another problem at the time was spec builders who put up these ugly monstrosities in the belief "that's what will sell". The buyers liked the large living space and generous-sized rooms in the monstrous homes, but being new to the city weren't always aware of the controversy over these monster homes until they'd moved in.

In my neighborhood, a monstrosity was built right up to the lot lines with just enough room to get the lawn mower from the front yard to the back. However, the driveway between the sidewalk & garage door was so short that if they parked on the driveway and then needed to open the garage door, they had to back the car a few feet onto the sidewalk so the bottom edge of the garage door as it was rising to open would clear the car's bumper.

In Point Grey, where I grew-up, many beautiful, stately, heritage estates were destroyed and clear-cut during that period of migration of Hong Kong wealth in the late 80s/early 90s. It was significant loss of architectural and landscaping heritage.

[nova9]

Originally Posted by osirisboy

does this project include the parking lot behind eldarodo

It does, as the signage boarders the parking lot too. It states 188 homes. But no rendering. So 188 homes would be equivalent to what size building. I'm working on the premise that the Hills development is completely gone since the signage theme is completely different and there is no name, just 2300 Kingsway.

[jlousa]

The project is bigger then 188 units, unless I'm mistaken the sign says 188 homes under $300k, pretty safe to assume there will be numerous units over $300K as well.

[raggedy13]

Originally Posted by cornholio

I hear the Eldorado pub closed ists doors a week ago so it sounds like their confident that nothing will stop this project again.

That's too bad. I've only been there once and it was quite recently (in January) but I kind of had an urge to go back there one day. It was a bit of a dive but not too bad - cheap Moosehead there too. Anyways, glad I got to check it out before it closed.

[CPE]

Any news if the old Elderado Liquor Store will reopen in the new building?

[jlousa]

It was going to be in the old plan, I haven't seen the new plan but I imagine it would still be included, a liquor sales license is worth a fair chuck of money and I can't see it going to waste.

[nova9]

Originally Posted by jlousa

It was going to be in the old plan, I haven't seen the new plan but I imagine it would still be included, a liquor sales license is worth a fair chuck of money and I can't see it going to waste.

Does a BC Liquor have the same strings as beer and wines? I wouldn't mind seeing a BC Liquor at that location so I can bring the alcohol closer to home. Haha.

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by jsbertram

Another problem at the time was spec builders who put up these ugly monstrosities in the belief "that's what will sell". The buyers liked the large living space and generous-sized rooms in the monstrous homes, but being new to the city weren't always aware of the controversy over these monster homes until they'd moved in.

In my neighborhood, a monstrosity was built right up to the lot lines with just enough room to get the lawn mower from the front yard to the back. However, the driveway between the sidewalk & garage door was so short that if they parked on the driveway and then needed to open the garage door, they had to back the car a few feet onto the sidewalk so the bottom edge of the garage door as it was rising to open would clear the car's bumper.

Yes, that was a difficult and embarssing (not to mention ugly and defacing) epoch in the city's history, and the story you tell is typical of many. Hopefully those days are over now. I don't what and if any bylaws are in place to control this kind of thing. It seems to have settled down, but I can't get a feel for it, living overseas.

[squeezied]

well the nouveau riche immigrants are notorious for building large monster houses. and more and more are coming from all over the place.

[nova9]

oh no, the asian invasion.........too late, we're here. muahaha.

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by nova9

oh no, the asian invasion.........too late, we're here. muahaha.

Very true, and welcome to us. However, with an attitude like that, don't be surprised if the rest of the population greets you and treats you with less than polite welcome and enthusiasm. (and please stop spitting on hotel lobby rugs while you're at it)

[LeftCoaster]

An attitude like what? Trying to joke off the subtle undertones of racism here?

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

An attitude like what? Trying to joke off the subtle undertones of racism here?

an attitude like "too late, we're already here. muahaha."

However, I confess there is an undertone of racism, but not simply because (in this instance) Asians are Asians.

We have ALWAYS had a large Asian population in Vancouver from the beginning, and they helped build and contribute to the city.

As I said in another post "when in Rome, do as the Romans do," and that means fitting in, and avoiding habits like spitting in hotel lobbies - something that has been noted by observers other than than on this forum - and which is considered disgusting, just as jumping the queue at the bank or post office has been noted, and is considered extremely rude and agressive.

When moving to another country as an immigrant, it's good to learn about the culture and ways of the country, and that applies to you and me and anyone else.

[jlousa]

Back on topic.

Kingsway is finally starting to get some attention. With the Eldorado project about to commence, there is the large Thind project just down the street, a couple of over 4 storey STIR projects being proposed, we are seeing some immediate action, over the longer term both the Mount Pleasant and Norquay community vision programs wraping up and going to council this year we can expect some major changes that will revive the street.

[nova9]

Originally Posted by trofirhen

an attitude like "too late, we're already here. muahaha."

However, I confess there is an undertone of racism, but not simply because (in this instance) Asians are Asians.

We have ALWAYS had a large Asian population in Vancouver from the beginning, and they helped build and contribute to the city.

As I said in another post "when in Rome, do as the Romans do," and that means fitting in, and avoiding habits like spitting in hotel lobbies - something that has been noted by observers other than than on this forum - and which is considered disgusting, just as jumping the queue at the bank or post office has been noted, and is considered extremely rude and agressive.

When moving to another country as an immigrant, it's good to learn about the culture and ways of the country, and that applies to you and me and anyone else.

so suddenly I have to defend people that spit in hotel lobbies? 🞵🞵🞵? I was born in Canada and I don't need to represent or defend 'my people' from people like you. and as a matter of fact, it's considered disgusting and rude in asia too, we're not just tribal villagers sitting in our own filth you know.

If we're going to list offenses that you've seen Asians do, shall I proceed with the stupid things I see white people do? you're disgusting.

[nova9]

Originally Posted by jlousa

Back on topic.

Kingsway is finally starting to get some attention. With the Eldorado project about to commence, there is the large Thind project just down the street, a couple of over 4 storey STIR projects being proposed, we are seeing some immediate action, over the longer term both the Mount Pleasant and Norquay community vision programs wraping up and going to council this year we can expect some major changes that will revive the street.

Yeah, Scene is coming right along. Too bad it's not a huge project.

[jlousa]

Thind was unable to afford carrying the costs any longer and had to proceed with the project, had then been able to hold off another year or so they most likely would've been able to build more on that site, not to mention the wasted opportunity of those sfhs that were built directly behind them could've been something more. Of course it's always dangerous to be paying interest and waiting on an unknown, so I don't fault them.

[nova9]

Originally Posted by jlousa

Thind was unable to afford carrying the costs any longer and had to proceed with the project, had then been able to hold off another year or so they most likely would've been able to build more on that site, not to mention the wasted opportunity of those sfhs that were built directly behind them could've been something more. Of course it's always dangerous to be paying interest and waiting on an unknown, so I don't fault them.

those homes behind are atrocious. only made more maddening by the 5 or 6 iterations on 1 block.

but i kinda hope eventually kingsway is a row of new buildings from at least nanaimo to king ed anchored by the el dorado development and the king ed. village.

[jlousa]

The 2400 site will become the anchor.