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NYguy · #**8081** Posted **Mar 20, 2010, 10:34 PM**

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Originally Posted by BStyles

They completed two floors in one week?! Wow!

They should be completed by the end of next week, so that would feed in to the average of about a floor a week. We're watching the office floors rise now, so other than the tapered effect of the tower, the biggest visual difference in construction will come when we reach the crown, followed by the spire.

Zensteeldude · #**8082** Posted **Mar 21, 2010, 3:13 PM**

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Originally Posted by MadGnome

It looks like they're laying 22 before 21. Is that how they're going to do the floor a week trick? Just lay even number floors to start and follow up with the odd floors?

The sooner they get the 22nd floor decked out the sooner they can start on the next lift.

OneWorldTradeCenter · #**8083** Posted **Mar 21, 2010, 4:44 PM**

Hi guys. I have a question:

Which tower weighs more? This one (when complete) or the North Tower???

2-TOWERS · #**8084** Posted **Mar 21, 2010, 4:59 PM**

I Would Think This Tower Will Because The Original Tower Had 3 Sheets Of Sheetrock To Protect The Core Where This New One Trade Has The Concrete, And Steel Cross Beams Conecting The Floor Plates , Not The Lightweight Truss Design........ Ny Guy Or Zen Would Have A More Accuate Answer For You..

hammersklavier · #**8085** Posted **Mar 21, 2010, 8:35 PM**

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Originally Posted by Zensteeldude

Nothing melted on 9-11-01 other than the aluminum of the planes. The structure of Tower One is based on sound design from lessons learned about the Twins failures.

It's sounds to me like you know just enough about engineering to be dangerous, or you spent too many hours at those silly 9/11 truther sites..

I'm an NJIT Grad with an MS in Structural Engineering and 20 years experience and a full set of prints for Tower One, and the Memorial, and the Transit Hub, and the ARC Tunnels . . . . .among other things.

Not to nitpick, but that's the official story--per the History Channel. The fireball when the jets hit the towers would have been more than hot enough to melt pretty much all common building materials, and I do know that the lattice structures used in the original buildings' tubes were designed to be much lighter (and more fragile, in the sense that the stability of the whole depends on the stability of all its parts and that the failure of only a few parts leads to the failure of the whole thing).

Also I am affronted, dear sir, that you would suggest that I spend time on websites like that! Honestly, the gaping holes in their logic...

uaarkson · #**8086** Posted **Mar 21, 2010, 9:22 PM**

Nope

No

Absolutely Not

None Of That

eaalkaline · #**8087** Posted **Mar 22, 2010, 2:30 AM**

It's deceiving to say that the steel melting. The intense heat from the explosion (and mostly the jet fuel-fed fire that followed it) was able to weaken the steel, but the structure failed long before any actual melting took place.

2-TOWERS · #**8088** Posted **Mar 22, 2010, 4:30 AM**

Enough Said....this Is Not The Thread To Be Talking About Melting Steel Etc.... We Got A Masterpiece Being Built Right Now ...lets Enjoy This Building Rise......

Loslocos · #**8089** Posted **Mar 22, 2010, 12:07 PM**

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Originally Posted by 2-TOWERS

Enough Said....this Is Not The Thread To Be Talking About Melting Steel Etc.... We Got A Masterpiece Being Built Right Now ...lets Enjoy This Building Rise......

Amen to that!

uaarkson · #**8090** Posted **Mar 22, 2010, 3:42 PM**

Damn, can we get ONE monday without rain?

RockMont · #**8091** Posted **Mar 22, 2010, 4:34 PM**

No, afraid not. It's springtime in New York City.

NYguy · #**8092** Posted **Mar 22, 2010, 8:04 PM**

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Originally Posted by 2-TOWERS

this Is Not The Thread To Be Talking About Melting Steel Etc....

Right. Leave that to another thread. We're talking about a tower going up, not coming down.

Paolo Mastrangelo

FerrariEnzo · #**8093** Posted **Mar 22, 2010, 9:19 PM**

Wow the whole site is getting frenetic.

Deepstar · #**8094** Posted **Mar 22, 2010, 9:33 PM**

It's great to see this one making some height!

Zensteeldude · #**8095** Posted **Mar 22, 2010, 9:39 PM**

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Originally Posted by OneWorldTradeCenter

Hi guys. I have a question:

Which tower weighs more? This one (when complete) or the North Tower???

The new Tower One well weigh considerably more, despite having 1.4 million square feet less office space. Not all of the extra weight is in the core and floor framing, though much of it is.

The First Tower One was air conditioned from a central chiller plant located under ground. The New Tower well have it's own plant. Add to that about 8 backup generators and about a dozen water tanks distributed through out the building.

Domamania · #**8096** Posted **Mar 22, 2010, 9:43 PM**

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Originally Posted by Zensteeldude

The new Tower One well weigh considerably more, despite having 1.4 million square feet less office space. Not all of the extra weight is in the core and floor framing, though much of it is.

The First Tower One was air conditioned from a central chiller plant located under ground. The New Tower well have it's own plant. Add to that about 8 backup generators and about a dozen water tanks distributed through out the building.

what purpose will the water tanks do for tower 1v2?

Zensteeldude · #**8097** Posted **Mar 22, 2010, 9:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by NYguy

Right. Leave that to another thread. We're talking about a tower going up, not coming down.

You are all absolutely right, this is not the place for such talk.

It's kinda my fault, hammersklavier was just responding to my post.

My apology's, hammersklavier and to all of you.

Remember the past, live in the present, build the future.

Zensteeldude · #**8098** Posted **Mar 22, 2010, 9:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by Domamania

what purpose will the water tanks do for tower 1v2?

They well serve the same purpose that water tanks do in all buildings in New York, ensure that there is water pressure. There is not enough pressure in the water tunnels to lift it all the way to the top so it must be pumped into tanks within or on top of the building.

The First Tower One had such tanks but there were fewer of them.

Calgarian · #**8099** Posted **Mar 22, 2010, 10:04 PM**

Sorry to keep talking about the twins, but is any of the steel being used in this tower?

NYguy · #**8100** Posted **Mar 22, 2010, 10:11 PM**

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Originally Posted by Calgarian

Sorry to keep talking about the twins, but is any of the steel being used in this tower?

NO

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Originally Posted by Zensteeldude

The New Tower well have it's own plant. Add to that about 8 backup generators and about a dozen water tanks distributed through out the building.

I remember when it was decided not to use a central plant like the old complex. As I recall, it had something to do with the Hudson River fish. It also led to the office towers being designed a little higher.