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Personally, I hate the grocery area of Walfart. While (some) prices are indeed very low, the aisles are insanely long and narrow, the produce is not very fresh, the meats are second/third rate cuts, the customers/staff are fugly, the Walmart house brands are shite, and the damned intercom speakers sound off with a shrill voice ("ASSOCIATE TO SHOES FOR CUSTOMER ASSISTANCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!") every 30 seconds.
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I do not think this is cool at all. Queen Street is not suppose to be about these mega Canadian chains, opening stores on.
Why should we be happy a store is opening on Queen that sells the same products in every superstore in the suburbs and country?
Yet another reason for people not to trek down to Queen Street for a day of shopping.

At this rate, there will be nothing to draw people to Queen in a few years, if all the companies keep opening suburban stores on Queen.

It will be interesting to see if Queen actually declines and sees its status as a shopping destination go down the tubes, if it keeps turning into nothing but a suburban mall/loblaws.
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Joe’s Fresh Take

How Loblaws became the new king of Canadian fashion

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http://www2.macleans.ca/2010/01/25/joes-fresh-take/
fvck, I wouldn't be caught dead wearing that stale 80s-camp Joe's crap. Come to think of it, this is what we see that Galen Weston Jr. wearing in his smirking commercials.

Joe? WTF is that supposed to mean? Like Walfart and its stupid George label. Wow! Loblaw's is hip!

I am going to start a label and call it Archibald.
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Maybe they thought it would bring back memories of Snoopy's 'Joe Cool' persona.

Mmm....nope.
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Walmart Expansion - another sign that our world is moving closer and closer to implosion
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fvck, I wouldn't be caught dead wearing that stale 80s-camp Joe's crap. Come to think of it, this is what we see that Galen Weston Jr. wearing in his smirking commercials.

Joe? WTF is that supposed to mean? Like Walfart and its stupid George label. Wow! Loblaw's is hip!

I am going to start a label and call it Archibald.
They're a mass marketer, and that's what the masses wear. Look at GAP in the 1990s! That stuff was far worse than what Joe Fresh sells, and they became one of the planet's most successful apparel retailers. H&M, Abercrombie & Fitch, Joe Fresh, etc. all sell bulk clothes for the masses and will never appeal to fashionistas.

Snappy dressers will continue to flock to boutiques and a few personal niche brand favourites, but the big money is selling to the other 90% of the population.

Honestly, in the branded (non-boutique) apparel sector, what percentage of the population want or can afford Tom Ford or Prada? Style conscious people make up a fairly small percentage of the population. Joe Fresh is there to make money, period.

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The measure of a true fashionista/someone with true style is the ability to mix high fashion, high street and vintage finds into one look.
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Chinook Centre second downtown

By Richard White, Calgary HeraldMarch 6, 2010

Love it or hate it, Chinook Centre has evolved into Calgary's other downtown.

By this, I mean Chinook Centre rivals or has surpassed the city's traditional downtown as the place for Calgarians of all ages and backgrounds to shop, browse, stroll and just hang out.

While Market Mall, Southcentre and Sunridge Mall, serve somewhat the same purpose, they are more regional centres. By contrast, Chinook is gradually becoming "centre ice" in Calgary's urban arena.

I have to declare up front that I am not a big fan of shopping centres, but it quickly became obvious how animated and vibrant Chinook Centre was compared to recent trips downtown and to other malls.

The parallels between Chinook Centre and downtown begin at the parking lot, where you have to drive around and around looking to snag a spot.

But as everyone likes to remind me, "at least you don't have to pay when you do find a spot -- and it is nice knowing you can stroll and linger as long as you want without the parking bill increasing every 30 minutes."

To be fair, downtown has plenty of parking evenings and weekends for a toonie. But unfortunately, this fact seems to be overshadowed by horror stories of the weekday ticket you get for being a few minutes late at a meter -- or how it costs $20 to park for a few hours to have lunch and do a bit shopping.

Once inside Chinook Centre, I couldn't help but notice that there were people everywhere. In contrast, other than at rush hour and lunch hour, downtown streets, sidewalks and Plus 15s are pretty empty most of the time.

And why not? After all, people are downtown to work.

The food court at Chinook Centre was like an urban plaza -- a hub of activity. Walking downstairs from the food court, I heard the distant beat of a drum.

It attracted me to wander over to another courtyard where a Chinese dragon dancing demonstration was taking place. I could have been on Stephen Avenue Walk.

While Chinook Centre may not have the traditional downtown Main Street look, with designer banners, lamp posts and benches, its many skylights give it an outdoor streetscape quality.

In fact, shopping at Chinook Centre is not very different than shopping in downtown's Plus-15 system.

While traditional downtown plazas and pocket parks have benches and steps to sit and watch the world go by, Chinook offers clusters of comfy chairs everywhere that serve the same purpose. Someone once said a city's downtown should be its living room. I couldn't help but think that these seating areas are little living rooms.

When it was built 50 years ago, Chinook Centre sat at the edge of the city. Today, it is literally part of our inner city.

No other major North American city I am aware of has its major indoor shopping mall within five kilometres of downtown. Imagine if the West Edmonton Mall was located on Whyte Avenue, or if Vancouver's Metro Town was located at South Granville or Commercial Drive.

Toronto's major mall, Eaton Centre, is right downtown so it actually enhances the downtown experience rather than competing with it.

An argument could be made that Chinook Centre is Calgary's uptown, like Bloor Street is to Toronto's downtown. Uptown is a term used in larger cities referring to a vibrant, upscale, boutique shopping and residential district a few kilometres from downtown.

While Calgary's 17th Avenue calls itself Uptown 17th, in many ways Chinook Centre is taking on the messy, congested, urbanism look and feel that better fits urban guru Jane Jacobs' vision of urban vitality.

Author of 1961's The Death and Life of Great American Cities, Jacobs' thesis was that you need plenty of shops with entrances to the sidewalk -- as well as small strategically placed intimate gathering places that are attractive to a diversity of people -- in order to create urban vitality.

Chinook Centre has this under one roof -- a bonus for a winter city like Calgary.

The mall's current expansion will bring it closer to Macleod Trail, better linking it to the street. I can envision a time when there will be no surface parking and the entire area will be one big indoor urban playground, with only underground parking and a dramatic Plus-15 promenade spanning the entire way to the Chinook LRT Station, which will be surrounded by ultra cool office and condo buildings.

The argument that Chinook Centre is Calgary's uptown is further strengthened when you realize it is just three LRT stops from downtown (I combined the two Stampede stops -- do we really need two stops so close?)

This is the equivalent to Dundas Street in downtown Toronto to Bloor Street.

What Chinook Centre is missing, however, are the restaurants, pubs and lounges that are commonly associated with urban places. After we went to a movie at the mall, we tried to get into a nearby restaurant, but it was full.

The mall is also missing the high density residential development that is also associated with uptown communities.

But perhaps we are on to something new and we don't even know it -- that major cities can have more than one downtown. Our traditional downtown focuses on head office and government during the weekdays and cultural activities most evenings and weekends, while our casual downtown (Chinook Centre) is where people relax in blue jeans and Lululemon gear in the evenings and weekends.

Or maybe it is just a winter city like Calgary that needs to have a winter downtown and a summer downtown.

In the summer, our downtown is a much more appealing place, with its patios and vendors on Stephen Avenue Walk, festivals in Prince's Island and plenty of hanging baskets and banners adding colour and charm.

But in the winter, it is a pretty cold, dark place. which is when Chinook Centre serves as our winter downtown.

"Downtown is more than just a corporate ghetto" you cry. "It is also our cultural headquarters -- Epcor Centre; the Grand, Vertigo, Lunchbox and Pumphouse Theatres; the Glenbow Museum; Art Gallery of Calgary; and the Triangle ..."

Agreed, but Chinook Centre has the Scotia Centre Cineplex with its IMAX theatre -- with 16 cinemas and 4,000 seats (compared to the Epcor Centre's 3,200 seats).

With two seatings per night, the cineplex has the capacity to entertain 8,000 people every evening. For many Calgarians, the cinema is the ideal art form, combining the novel, the play, the concert and the visual arts.

After seeing Avatar at the IMAX, I had to wonder (for just a second or two) if people, after experiencing this, will ever go to an art gallery again; the visuals were simply outstanding.

It was interesting to contrast the Avatar experience with the graphic visuals of the PIG: A Back Door Peep Show I saw a few weeks before at One Yellow Rabbit's High Performance Rodeo.

Talk about both ends of the spectrum! Though for me it was great, I think the average Calgarian feels the cinema gives them the best bang for their buck. The fact that the Scotia Centre Cineplex is the number one cinema complex in Canada in terms of attendance tells me my hunch isn't far off the mark.

Times change, cities change.

The emergence of Chinook Centre as part of Calgary's urban place-making is perhaps something that I and other urban snobs in our city need to embrace.

The City planners already have, with the development of the Chinook Station TOD (Transit Oriented Development) Plan.

This plan calls for the densification of all blocks surrounding the station with mixed-use high density housing, offices, medical, retail, restaurant and recreational buildings.

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http://www.calgaryherald.com/Chinook+Centre+second+downtown/2647974/story.html
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HUZZAH!! Three cheers for the mall!
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By Richard White, Calgary HeraldMarch 6, 2010

The food court at Chinook Centre was like an urban plaza -- a hub of activity. Walking downstairs from the food court, I heard the distant beat of a drum.

It attracted me to wander over to another courtyard where a Chinese dragon dancing demonstration was taking place. I could have been on Stephen Avenue Walk.
The food court is not a friggin' urban plaza, its a goddamn food court where people stuff themselves with Arby's before going to The Gap.


Reading this article, it sounds like the author has never seen a mall before. In next week's column, is he going to marvel at the horseless carraige that brought him there?
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In fairness to the 'author' or this drivel, Chinook is better than most malls in that it is reasonably centrally located, accessable to mass transit and in an area with the potential to become more densley built.

I just don't share his entusiasm and question the need for an article extolling the virtues of Chinook Mall which, to my knowledge, does not need such a strident and passionate defense in our local paper.

Also I think Jane Jacobs is spinning in her grave at his assertion a mall is a better example of urbanism than a store lined city street.


(last post on this, I promise - I just don't know how to do that multiple quote thing people do)
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hopefully they offer more - amazon.com is like a huge general store you can get clothers, shoes, household items, kitchen items, food etc and none of it is shippable to Canada

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It’s official: Amazon wants in to Canada

March 5, 2010 | 6:11 PM | By Stuart Woods, with files from Scott MacDonald


After several days of speculation, the rumours have been confirmed: Amazon is seeking government approval to establish physical operations in Canada, a move that could have a big impact on the Canadian retail scene.

According to documents obtained by Q&Q from the federal government’s Privy Council Office, Amazon’s application to “establish a new Canadian business” – filed on Jan. 27 – is now being reviewed by Governor General Michaëlle Jean to see if it complies with the Investment Canada Act. The new business would be called Amazon Fulfillment Services Canada Inc.

An Amazon spokesperson would not elaborate on the company’s Canadian plans while the application is being reviewed. “We’re always looking for new ways to serve our Canadian customers, but it’s premature to discuss our plans right now,” the spokesperson said.

If Amazon were to be given the go-ahead to open a Canadian warehouse or home office, it could mean the end of its distribution partnership with SCI Logistics, formerly known as Assured Logistics, a subsidiary of the Canada Post Group of Companies. It could also be a sign that Amazon plans to expand its offerings of non-book products in Canada. At present, Amazon.ca sells books, CDs, and DVDs, as well as home and garden products. Amazon’s U.S. website, meanwhile, offers a much wider array of products, including the Kindle, jewellery, health care products, electronics, and groceries.

While details about Amazon’s Canadian plans are still scarce, it seems that members of the publishing community were the first to learn about the Privy Council review. Late last week, Association of Canadian Publishers executive director Carolyn Wood sent out a notice to members about the application.

One industry source, who did not want to be named, told Q&Q that an expanded Canadian presence for Amazon wouldn’t be a bad thing if it improved the company’s services for Canadian publishers. In particular, the source said, a Canadian office might lead to more stringent enforcement of territorial rights on Amazon.ca: “If opening their own business in Canada means they’re going to tidy up their website, which is very frustrating for a lot of us now, that would be great.”

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http://www.quillandquire.com/google/article.cfm?article_id=11174
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That article on Chinook was painful to read. I don't even know where to start so I won't, but the author clearly missed the point of Jane Jacobs and references things in Toronto with a clear lack of knowledge (Bloor is not uptown).

Oh, and Chinook really isn't all that accessible by public transit. It's not bad, certainly, but the mall entrance is over 500m from the LRT station. That's pushing it for walkability. To contrast Yorkdale mall in Toronto (which is more like Chinook than the Eaton Centre) has a direct connection to the subway system. Four of Ottawa's major malls (Rideau Centre, St-Laurent Centre, Bayshore and Place D'Orleans) have direct transitway BRT connections.

Don't get me wrong, it's an OK place for a mall. I look forward to the redevelopment of the surrounding blocks and the seemingly inevitable expansion of the mall to front McLeod directly. But it's still a distinctly suburban mall, not any sort of uptown Calgary.
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I don't get the paying for parking arguement. It's a privilege not a right to have free parking. You have to pay for that luxury in high profile locations like Robson Street in Vancouver, 17th and 4th in Calgary, Whyte here. If you really want to whine about the paying for parking, then take transit or bike instead! Better for the environment and cheaper (well, cheaper if it's used for the majority of trips instead of cars, which isn't true for suburbanites usually).
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hopefully they offer more - amazon.com is like a huge general store you can get clothers, shoes, household items, kitchen items, food etc and none of it is shippable to Canada
They actually do ship almost everything except electronics to Canada, already.

Fully expanding to Canada would be pretty much the best thing EVER! Amazon.ca currently is so pitiful, it doesn't even really sell anything...
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my friend had a $500 gift card thing for Amazon and he went to .com and picked out this stuff out and went to check out and they said they wouldn't delive and redirected him to .ca and he was not impressed - haha - that was less than 2 years ago - he mostly had wanted kitchen stuff
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Why did Calgary allow such a large regional mall so close to it's downtown core? Did they not know it would suck the life right out of Stephen Ave?

While downtown Calgary still has a healthy retail area, with something like 1,000 shops and services(one of the largest downtown retail areas in North America), there is no doubt that Chinook Centre has really hurt the downtown core. And the fact aht high profile stores like Tiffany's opened in Chinook Centre instead of downtown, really shows the damage Chinook Centre has done to downtown.
Although downtown does have holts

But it really is a shame that a mall has become the centre of Calgary.
According to this author I guese the legendary retail/hanging out places in Canadian cities will look like this

Toronto: Bloor Street
Montreal: St. Catharine Street
Vancouver: Robison Street
Calgary: Chinook Centre

I agree with the article, that the best thing Toronto ever did was build its largest mall downtown. That really helped draw in everyone, and help leep the central core a shopping mecca.

Does downtown Calgary even get crowds of people on Stephen Ave on weekends, where it feels like you are strolling in a big city? Because even one of my professors was just saying how he found downtown Calgary very dead on weekends.
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Why did Calgary allow such a large regional mall so close to it's downtown core? Did they not know it would suck the life right out of Stephen Ave?

While downtown Calgary still has a healthy retail area, with something like 1,000 shops and services(one of the largest downtown retail areas in North America), there is no doubt that Chinook Centre has really hurt the downtown core. And the fact aht high profile stores like Tiffany's opened in Chinook Centre instead of downtown, really shows the damage Chinook Centre has done to downtown.
Although downtown does have holts

But it really is a shame that a mall has become the centre of Calgary.
According to this author I guese the legendary retail/hanging out places in Canadian cities will look like this

Toronto: Bloor Street
Montreal: St. Catharine Street
Vancouver: Robison Street
Calgary: Chinook Centre

I agree with the article, that the best thing Toronto ever did was build its largest mall downtown. That really helped draw in everyone, and help leep the central core a shopping mecca.
Does downtown Calgary even get crowds of people on Stephen Ave on weekends, where it feels like you are strolling in a big city? Because even one of my professors was just saying how he found downtown Calgary very dead on weekends.
I've bolded the absurd parts.
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@Mike:

Yes, Calgary does get crowds on weekends. Even on Stephen Ave, which isn't even the biggest draw in the central city. There really isn't an equivalent to Stephen Ave in Toronto, but 17th Ave is Calgary's Queen St W, or Bloor kinda, I guess.

And it's not like Calgary "allowed" such a large mall next to the core. You have to look at the historical development of Chinook. Originally it was 2 smaller malls that were eventually connected through redevelopment. The original developments were at the edge of the city at the time. This is why I say that Chinook has a lot more in common with Yorkdale, as in they were originally developed at the edge of the city as it stood in the late 1940s / early 1950s.
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I've seen Stephen packed. Last time I was in Calgary it looked crazy wall to wall from a couple blocks away. But on Sunday it was a little less bustling .

I don't think Chinook has stolen much from Downtown Calgary, at least no more than other cities. Eaton Centre in Toronto stole what could have been streetfront retail on Queen or Yonge or something. Metropolis at Metrotown stole what could have been on Granville (granted there is Robson). West Edmonton Mall, much further from Downtown, killed our downtown (well, not 100% accurate, more like finished an almost complete action). West Ed has sucked opportunity from our Downtown and Whyte ave. Somehow Stephen, Granville, Queen, Jasper, Yonge, Whyte, 17th, etc. manage to get by though (especially in the independent business section for a few of them).
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