Ottawa Rapid Transit Network developments

[waterloowarrior]

http://www.merx.com/English/SUPPLIER_Men...3&hcode=x6%2bpn8wbH%2btL3zQZEbcKtw%3d%3d

RFP - Downtown Ottawa Transit Tunnel Project Geotechnical and Hydrogeological Investigation of Tunne

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[Uhuniau]

Originally Posted by Richard Eade

Right now there is worry about how transit is going to serve Lansdowne. If there were a subway under Bank then it wouldn't be an issue.

The Lansdowne solution, absent a Bank Street subway (Holt Plan, sniff) is obvious: Queen Elizabeth Driveway.

SnoBus, only year round.

That, and for God's sake, can OC Transpo (a) check the schedule of events for Lansdowne, (b) put on some extra 1s and 7s both before and after big events, and (c) put some artics on those routes?

It's not rocket science, but the Glebe NIMBY brigade and the NCC will still screw it up for everyone else.

[blackjagger]

Originally Posted by Uhuniau

The Lansdowne solution, absent a Bank Street subway (Holt Plan, sniff) is obvious: Queen Elizabeth Driveway.

SnoBus, only year round.

That, and for God's sake, can OC Transpo (a) check the schedule of events for Lansdowne, (b) put on some extra 1s and 7s both before and after big events, and (c) put some artics on those routes?

It's not rocket science, but the Glebe NIMBY brigade and the NCC will still screw it up for everyone else.

I agree, combine with some shuttle buses from parking lots around the area, ei. Carleton, Preston, or Billings Bridge and there will be no problems. Every NFL game or Bowl game I have been to had a perfect system of getting people in and out on shuttles. A couple of officers to prioritize routes for shuttles and in 30 mins you can have a huge amount of the attendees to a major event out of the area, freeing up local traffic routes and bus routes.

[GoTrans]

Originally Posted by Richard Eade

So, in general, it should be possible to raise the tunnel and stations by about ten metres just be moving the station locations. A side benefit is that the Rideau Station moves farther west so there could be justification to add another station at Laurier (under Waller).

I think you have made a valid point with your proposal even though personally I don't think that the depth of the stations has much of an impact on the length of time or effort required by passengers to exit the satations. However with respect to the Rideau/Sussex station I beg to differ. Many of the transit users are going to be either politicos working on Parliament Hill or tourists who want to go to the hill to take part in major events ( protests or not) and as a result I think the current proposed location serves as an anchor to the Market, the Rideau Centre and Parliament Hill. I believe your proposal moves the Rideau station too far away from the Rideau Centre and the market Unfortunately the depth of the station at Rideau impacts on the depth of at least the next closest western station due to the ruling grades that would be required. Your plan though to put another station in at Weller is good except I thought your primary focus on reducing the depth was to reduce the construction cost so adding another terminal does not do that. The distance from Campus station to Rideau is not great but I must say that a station on Weller would provide better access to Sandy Hill residents. But I guess in reality its all about the money.

[Kitchissippi]

Moving the downtown east station also puts it almost entirely under buildings, making it harder to mine out, and it would probably result in closing Bank Street again during construction.

Putting the Rideau station under Confederation square is an OK idea except it would probably mean disturbing the War Memorial and the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier more than simple tunnelling through, requiring some careful handling and mitigation.

In the end, the 10 metre difference in depth really isn't something to be up in arms about, especially given the topography of downtown being on a hill. For example the 43 metre depth quoted for the east end of the Downtown east is from the top of a slope on Queen Street to the bottom of the bore. Also track level is probably about at least a couple of metres from the bottom of the circular bore plus platform height. In reality, the tunnel only dips 25 metres below the ground level at Lebreton and then climbs out.

[Uhuniau]

Originally Posted by Kitchissippi

Why do people here keep on forgetting that more buses = more drivers = higher operating costs? Is this a short-term memory thread?

This is a short-term memory TOWN.

[Uhuniau]

Originally Posted by blackjagger

I agree, combine with some shuttle buses from parking lots around the area, ei. Carleton, Preston, or Billings Bridge and there will be no problems.

Parking lots? Sure, I guess. But more to the point: the QED shuttles could have their origin/termini downtown along the existing busway, then via Laurier (and a stop at the Corkstown Bridge for connections from Campus), and, at the other end, at the Carling O-Train station. The Carleton O-Train station would also be incorporated into the route for any shuttles to Cartoon U parking lots.

So simple. Yet the anti-transit NCC is making it so complicated.

[AuxTown]

The city should have a stipulation that, when buses run down QED (only during events), they should have to be hybrids (quieter) or those new double deckers (look good). A few more double deckers for routes 1 and 7 along Bank Street would also take up half the space but carry the same number of people. Everyone is freaking out that Lansdowne is "not on rapid transit" but it's just over 1km South to Billings Bridge (large transfer station) and 2km North to our downtown Transitway and eventually LRT. These are very walkable distances during the summer and a short trip on a shuttle or special bus service with some efficient traffic management (i.e. buses have priority).

[Franky]

Originally Posted by Uhuniau

Parking lots? Sure, I guess. But more to the point: the QED shuttles could have their origin/termini downtown along the existing busway, then via Laurier (and a stop at the Corkstown Bridge for connections from Campus), and, at the other end, at the Carling O-Train station. The Carleton O-Train station would also be incorporated into the route for any shuttles to Cartoon U parking lots.

So simple. Yet the anti-transit NCC is making it so complicated.

Though this isn't the right thread to discuss bus routes, the stadium should be on one of the rapid transit routes proposed. New bus routes can be discussed in "The future of Ottawa's Transit" thread. An Urbanaut solution would leave enough money to build an impressive stadium at city centre even after linking Orleans, Barrhaven, Kanata and Gatineau and would still have some left over compared to the latest rapid transit plan.

[matty14]

Originally Posted by Franky

Though this isn't the right thread to discuss bus routes, the stadium should be on one of the rapid transit routes proposed. New bus routes can be discussed in "The future of Ottawa's Transit" thread. An Urbanaut solution would leave enough money to build an impressive stadium at city centre even after linking Orleans, Barrhaven, Kanata and Gatineau and would still have some left over compared to the latest rapid transit plan.

This also isn't the right thread to discuss "theoretical technologies" as is stated on the very first post.

[Franky]

Originally Posted by matty14

This also isn't the right thread to discuss "theoretical technologies" as is stated on the very first post.

It's not "theoretical technology" - http://www.rowin.co.kr/main_rowin_eng.php - under "monorail".

[Jamaican-Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Franky

It's not "theoretical technology" - http://www.rowin.co.kr/main_rowin_eng.php - under "monorail".

Fine, then. Experimental. Not exactly a marked improvement.

[RTWAP]

Originally Posted by Jamaican-Phoenix

Fine, then. Experimental. Not exactly a marked improvement.

Yah, no kidding. The following is the system description from the web address Frankie supplied.

Y the guide rail of empty type compares in existing structure and improves with going to the mound power which together only the right and left vibration knows until the vibration under at with the structure which absorbs to be planned, joins in hereupon and the peculiar great different structure with stability sees guarantees riding in a car feeling which recovers in 4 air spring support methods and the lightweight anger of the vehicle is possible and the constructive and use expense is reduced.

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[Uhuniau]

I, for one, am scared the tracks might bend.

[Franky]

Originally Posted by Uhuniau

I, for one, am scared the tracks might bend.

Funny. The company has built sections for the Seattle monorail - no problem. I thought we weren't discussing this in this thread?

[waterloowarrior]

anyways...
http://ottawa.ca/residents/public_consult/transit_tunnel/assessment_oh_1/index_en.html

Notice of Commencement of Transit Project Assessment Process
Open House

The City of Ottawa is holding a Public Open House to provide information on the planned DOTT project, existing environmental conditions, the assessment of effects, and proposed mitigation measures. This is an opportunity for you to ask questions and share your comments on the assessment of this transit project. Your participation in this event, which will help shape the future of Ottawa, is important.

Tuesday, February 23, 2010
5 to 8:30 p.m.
Ottawa City Hall
Main Floor Rotunda Area
110 Laurier Ave. West (at Elgin Street)
Transit Routes:
5, 6, 14, and Transitway routes

Background

The City of Ottawa is proposing a new 12.5 km electric light rail transit (LRT) line running from Tunney’s Pasture Station in the west to Blair Station in the east via a downtown transit tunnel. Thirteen stations are proposed, four of which are in the 3.2 km tunnel, while the remainder are situated along the at-grade corridor that generally follows the existing Transitway. To support operation of the line, a new maintenance and storage facility is also planned to accommodate a fleet of new electric light rail vehicles.

This project is identified as a priority within the City’s 2008 Transportation Master Plan Update, which recognized the need for a rapid transit facility fully separated from general traffic through Ottawa’s downtown, to accommodate existing and future transit ridership, while improving service reliability. The City has also carried out a study to determine the appropriate transit technology for the DOTT and future extensions to the City of Ottawa’s rail rapid transit network. Public consultations during the preliminary planning stage of the project were held on February 26, 2009, June 22, 2009 and October 26, 2009. In January 2010 Ottawa City Council approved the functional design for the project.

Process

The environmental impact of the DOTT project will be assessed according to the transit project assessment process as prescribed in Ontario Regulation 231/08, Transit Projects and Greater Toronto Transportation Authority Undertakings. Regulation 231/08 assumes that the rationale and alternatives to this transit project have been established. Accordingly, the Regulation allows the City of Ottawa, the proponent, to focus its efforts on the environmental impacts of the recommended plan.

A draft Environmental Project Report is being prepared which will identify the scope of the project, describe current environmental conditions and assess the environmental impacts that the design, construction and operation of project will have. It will describe measures that are being proposed to mitigate negative impacts and identify how the effectiveness of those measures will be monitored. Following the consultation period, the draft Environmental Project Report will be combined with the feedback the City of Ottawa receives from the public, government agencies, and First Nations to produce the final Environmental Project Report. At that time, a formal Notice of Study Completion will be issued. The final Environmental Project Report will then be available for a 30- day review period on the project website: ottawa.ca/tunnel. The Notice of Completion for the assessment will also include a number of locations to review a hard copy of the report.

A Federal Environmental Assessment under the Canadian Environmental Assessment Act will be co-ordinated with the Provincial process.
Members of the public, agencies and other interested persons are encouraged to participate actively in the transit project assessment process by attending the Open House or contacting staff directly with information, comments or questions.

[p_xavier]

Different approach on planning:

http://www.thespec.com/News/Local/article/721381

So, what was that for Ottawa, we need to have new users and that's it? I didn't even read anything about users in the report, only benefits of cast/ratio and impacts.

[waterloowarrior]

http://www.merx.com/English/SUPPLIER_Men...ge=23&hcode=rEFXDj4sMeBLJaCyQqZs1w%3d%3d

RFQ - Prince of Wales Bridge South and Prince of Wales Bridge North Detailed Condition Inspection

Request for Qualification -
Prince of Wales Bridge South (SN 011970-1) and Prince of Wales Bridge North (SN 011970-2) (Potential LRT over Ottawa River) Detailed Condition Inspection, Evaluation and Renewal Options Report

The City of Ottawa, Infrastructure Services Department is seeking proposals to provide professional engineering services to conduct a Detailed Condition Inspection, Evaluation and Renewal Option Report for Prince of Wales Bridge South (SN 011970-1) and Prince of Wales Bridge North (SN 011970-2).

[Ciemny]

City, province, working on Transitway deal
By JON WILLING, Ottawa Sun

Last Updated: February 28, 2010 2:41pm
The city is hammering out a deal with the province to use land along Hwy. 417 to build a Transitway extension in the west end.

The 12-acre parcel of land between Pinecrest Rd. and Holly Acres Rd. is in provincial hands and the city needs it for the preferred path of the extension. The two sides have been at odds over how much the land is worth, with the province asking about $4 million. The city thinks it’s only worth $2.6 million.

The city and the province haven’t budged on their individual assessments since August 2007.

An enhanced Transitway would improve traffic flow on the highway and the city is hoping that fact will help establish a “corridor sharing” agreement with the province.

Put simply in a staff report to the transit committee, the city’s transit system benefits the Ontario ministry of transportation.

Since the ministry has just finished a redesign of the highway in that area, the province is warming up to the idea of working with the city on an agreement, which would allow the city to build maintain infrastructure on those lands.

The city and province have struck similar corridor-sharing deals along the Transitway on Lees Ave., at the Queensway station and at an underpass project between Alta Vista Dr. and St. Laurent Blvd.

Staff are recommending to the transit committee that city manager Kent Kirkpatrick receive approval to negotiate an agreement with the ministry. The agreement is expected to address, among other things, protection for the city if the province ever decides to privatize Hwy. 417.

The transit committee will consider the plan Monday.

Meanwhile, the city has been collecting public input for a $40-million project that will eventually extend the Transitway to Moodie Dr. The expansion is expected to better serve commuters in Kanata and the Bayshore area.

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Isin't that part of the transitway already finished? Between Pinecrest and Acres road? Seems to be it is the Acres to Moodie section they are talking about not the previously completed section.

[waterloowarrior]

^ it's the previously completed/newly opened section
http://ottawa.ca/calendar/ottawa/citycou...%20-%20West%20Transitway%20Extension.htm