Metro Vancouver Transit Discussion

[SpongeG]

Originally Posted by Lover Fighter

I was actually on the train in front of you. One of the people who had boarded from the hockey game shattered a window (I boarded at Waterfront and there was a long wait for the train to pull into Stadium station). There didn't seem to be any mechanical issues with the train, just a safety issue. I didn't get on your train (I walked to Metrotown to get dinner instead) but when I jumped back on the skytrain I did notice a multiple train backup before New Westminster. I also noticed the train with the broken window in the skytrain yards getting an immediate fix!

ah - i felt sorry for the people who got booted off the train - they didn't seem too upset though - i guess they realized and witnessed what caused the disruption than

there was another train right behind us so the wait would have been a few seconds

[GeeCee]

Originally Posted by Yume-sama

I had several people ask me where the "subway" is lastnight. It's such a dignified word, isn't it? At first I thought they meant the restaurant.

But no, they mean the train. The "subway" to Richmond! Mmmm. We almost need to start calling it this.

It's a skytrain, dammit.. and I'd rather die than call it a subway.

[CLC]

Translink now says expect 2 million trips on all transit coming Sunday.

I figure it may be over-expected as most locals all over metro Vancouver should have already checked out downtown already

[CLC]

Originally Posted by racc

http://www.straight.com/article-291976/v...rts-olympic-guests-while-locals-miss-bus

Evil Eye confessed that he uses car

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by CLC

Translink now says expect 2 million trips on all transit coming Sunday.

I figure it may be over-expected as most locals all over metro Vancouver should have already checked out downtown already

I think momentum is building, and even more people will head downtown. The debbie downer crowd is dying out, men's hockey is on.. party time!

[SpongeG]

it will be Canada vs USA

I think more people see that they can get downtown and watch the game with a crowd and take it all in

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by GeeCee

It's a skytrain, dammit.. and I'd rather die than call it a subway.

I know what you mean abpout calling it a "subway." That has a banal, copycat Toronto - New York ring to it, as well as sounding clichéd.

But I don't like "skytrain" either. Sounds like a Mattel toy set, or a ride at the PNE.

We could always refer to it as the "Underground" or the "Métro." .....(pretentious, but cosmopolitan)

[GeeCee]

In an ideal world, I'd like to call it the ALRT.. but it's kind of a mouthful.

[gillty]

Originally Posted by racc

The Waterfront Hub is really not that impressive. They are only planning one more platform for rail and there is no grand waterfront plaza. Instead they are destroying Granville Square so tour buses can stop along the water. If you want to see how to do it right, check out the Transbay Terminal project in San Fran.
http://transbaycenter.org/

Yes very impressive... too bad you'll never see that many people using the terminal as shown in the render video within the next 30 years.

[SpongeG]

i'm going to start calling it the "T"

[GeeCee]

SkyTrizzle..

[trofirhen]

No, "T" as in Train, Transit, Tunnelbana (Stockhom subway) .....

"Skytrain" sounds like a toy you'd give some kid for Christmas. "oh boy, a Skytrain. Woweeeeeeeeeeeee"

Sorry, but that's my opinion.

[racc]

http://www.vancouversun.com/sports/2010w...Olympic+fever+deepens/2588587/story.html

Waterfront Station has seen the biggest crushes, with two seven-car West Coast Express trains carrying 200,000 people arriving at the same time one day last week.

That does seem a bit high for two trains, it must of looked kinda like this:

Image:http://www.jeffiscool.com

[jsbertram]

Originally Posted by GeeCee

It's a skytrain, dammit.. and I'd rather die than call it a subway.

But it's only a Train in the Sky in Richmond (and one Vancouver stop on the edge of the Fraser River)

UnderTrain?
TubeTrain?
SubTrain?
UnderGroundSkyTrain?

I call it the Granville Street Subway, or the Yaletown Subway, or the Cambie Street Subway (depending on where you are standing & where the tourist is going) which cuts through the confusion of "SkyTrain" since it's all underground in Vancouver until Marine Dr.

[GeeCee]

The vast majority of the M and E lines are underground..

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by Lover Fighter

I was actually on the train in front of you. One of the people who had boarded from the hockey game shattered a window!..

Typically Vancouver.

Looking at the type of crowd downtown in the evening, I see the recipe for a riot brewing, if Canada wins or loses gold in hockey.

[jsbertram]

Originally Posted by GeeCee

The vast majority of the M and E lines are underground..

No More BC Bud for You!

M-Line and E-Line are on the ground at Waterfront Station. (slightly higher than the WCE station)
Underground at Granville and Burrard Stations.
Elevated starting at Stadium Station (although because of the ridge, it appears to be underground from Beatty Street)
Remains elevated from Stadium Station to Nanaimo Station
Runs in an open trench to Rupert St
Returns to Elevated tracks from Rupert St, through Joyce Station, to just west of Edmonds Station
Edmonds Station and nearby tracks are open trench and on-ground to provide connections to the nearby maintenance centre
East of the former assembly facility it resumes using elevated tracks to 22nd Street Station and remains elevated through New Westminster Station until it gets east of the old New West courthouse
It runs underground to the open-air Columbia Station.
East of this station, the E-Line rises out of the underground segment to the SkyBridge over the river to Surrey, and remains elevated to King George Station.

Should I continue with how much of the E-Line from Columbia to Commercial is elevated?

[GeeCee]

I don't have time for your 'facts' and 'proof'! IT'S A TRAIN THAT TRAVELS THROUGH THE SKY

[jsbertram]

Originally Posted by GeeCee

I don't have time for your 'facts' and 'proof'! IT'S A TRAIN THAT TRAVELS THROUGH THE SKY

which seems to contradict your previous post:

Originally Posted by GeeCee

The vast majority of the M and E lines are underground..

(my emphasis)

[Locked In]

racc posted the link to Frances Bula's article above - if true, it's amazing that Vancouver's transit system is moving as many people each day right now as Toronto's. Anways, here are some volume estimates, provided by Translink and City on Feb 17, from her post:

Expo/Millennium/Canada Lines/ together
Normal daily ridership: 344,000
Peak on Sunday: 709,000

Canada Line alone
Normal daily ridership: 94,000
Peak on Sunday: 209,000

Expo/Millennium lines alone
Normal daily ridership: 250,000
Peak on Sunday: 500,000

Buses
Normal daily bus ridership: 710,000
Peak on Sunday: 900,000

SeaBus:
Normal daily ridership: 17,000
Peak on Sunday : 50,000

West Coast Express:
Normal daily ridership: 11,000
* We don’t run trains Saturday and Sunday regularly, but we are running them during the Olympics.
Sunday ridership: 3,400
Monday, Feb. 15: 17,000

99-B Line UBC not even in session.
Normal daily ridership: 45,000
Peak on Sunday 57,000

STATS FROM THE CITY (Dale Bracewell)
Streetcar line
Ridership record before Saturday was 15,000
Peak on Sunday 23,000

Pedestrians on all three False Creek bridges in one 24-hour period
16,000
Volumes normally recorded on summer days
7,000

Bike traffic on all three False Creek bridges
4,000
Normal summer traffic
5,000

Source: francesbula.com