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Old Posted Feb 17, 2010, 8:26 AM
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Generally one only sees the raised floor system in computer rooms etc. not in office space.
From what we've heard, the Bow will also have this type of raised floor installed in some of the office space. Its definitely not just for server rooms anymore. I can see it can be especially useful in more of the cubicle farm type environment, where there isn't exactly walls to run the wire through either, and in a number of offices with that type of setup that I've seen (especially in older buildings) they generally end up running this type of stuff in the ceiling instead with poles running stuff down to the desks.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 17, 2010, 2:09 PM
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I hope they will think again about an outdoor observation deck. But I doubt.

Does anyone know at wwhich height the indoor observation deck in the 102nd floor will be??
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 17, 2010, 2:48 PM
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i think it was 1,266 feet but i'm not sure where the info came from, probably the NYT.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 17, 2010, 2:54 PM
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That first stage, looks like it has reached its height. Now comes the main part.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 17, 2010, 3:04 PM
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Old Posted Feb 17, 2010, 4:23 PM
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Generally one only sees the raised floor system in computer rooms etc. not in office space.
Like Mersar said, The Bow tower in Calgary is getting a raised floor system in ALL of the office space (2 million square feet) , and I imagine that 1 WTC is getting the same. It makes reconfiguration of office spce so much easier, less messy, and wastes much less materials. It helps buildings get the LEED rating they want.

Air ducts, power, networking, plumbing, etc are all easy to reconfigure, and it's more futureproof. When a new technology comes along that requires a new type of cable, you don't have to open holes in all the walls just to get that new cable in.

That is what the article is talking about.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 17, 2010, 4:45 PM
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The cables themselves might not be that big, but I have been under the impression that they are increasingly being routed underneath raised floor systems(such as this) to permit ease of reconfiguring the space. The raised floor takes up an additional foot or so of space. Having a higher floor-to-floor height also helps in getting daylight into the building(and increases the LEED score) but that has nothing to with the wiring.
Makes sense with the large open area plans you see now days. I mostly set up emergency power and comms at disaster sites now and it would sure be nice to have something that didn't require 50 rolls of Gaffers tape to run fibers and wires.
Being able to quickly reconfigure the space would save a whole lot of downtime in some very expensive real estate.
Too bad the writer didn't do a little research instead of making something up when he didn't understand. It's OK for me to do it. Just not other people.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 18, 2010, 3:41 AM
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^ The bottom line was all in the point he was trying to make - the City needs the new office space.


I've mentioned this before, but when the Freedom Tower rises, there will be a dramatic change in the view down this canyon...

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Old Posted Feb 18, 2010, 5:07 AM
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^^^off topic, but what is the history of the building on the right, or if someone knows the name of it, I'll google it? Thanks
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 18, 2010, 3:29 PM
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It's the Whitehall Building, and towering behind it is the Greater Whitehall (as it was called back in the day).




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This link provide some interesting information.
http://www.communitywalk.com/location/whitehall_building/steamship_offices__piers/1337420
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 18, 2010, 7:14 PM
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^ Yeah, converted to resdidential now I believe.

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Old Posted Feb 18, 2010, 8:31 PM
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I hate to say it, but those huge beams at the very base just don't look that big (though they are probably some of the biggest, heaviest, most-expensive support columns in the world).
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 18, 2010, 8:50 PM
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I hate to say it, but those huge beams at the very base just don't look that big (though they are probably some of the biggest, heaviest, most-expensive support columns in the world).
They are ...Just look at the construction workers in front of them!!!!!!!!!!!
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 18, 2010, 9:20 PM
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They are ...Just look at the construction workers in front of them!!!!!!!!!!!
Or that hotwheels... I mean Mack truck parked in front of one... They must be 4 feet in width. (maybe more) Plus that core is HUGE at the lower levels.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 18, 2010, 10:43 PM
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Like Mersar said, The Bow tower in Calgary is getting a raised floor system in ALL of the office space (2 million square feet) , and I imagine that 1 WTC is getting the same. It makes reconfiguration of office spce so much easier, less messy, and wastes much less materials. It helps buildings get the LEED rating they want.

Air ducts, power, networking, plumbing, etc are all easy to reconfigure, and it's more futureproof. When a new technology comes along that requires a new type of cable, you don't have to open holes in all the walls just to get that new cable in.

That is what the article is talking about.
Let's see, all the plumbing is in the core. The HVAC ducts are all above the ceiling.

The office spaces are to be "Tenant fit out" so if someone wants a raised floor system they can have it, as long as they pay for it.

     
     
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Old Posted Feb 19, 2010, 12:03 AM
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Old Posted Feb 19, 2010, 12:12 AM
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One can really get a feel for the shear mass of Tower One in that second shot. But being a steel building (more or less) it's light and airy.

Great shots NYCLuver.
     
     
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Like i said it before that i have my doubts about the base, but now looking at the pictures its hell of a huge base.
Now its up to office floors :]
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 19, 2010, 4:12 PM
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Good to see things all squared now, but that won't last long...

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Old Posted Feb 19, 2010, 8:38 PM
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Is she finally done?! It's a dream come true from this pic:

To this:

Only 1,576 more feet to go.
     
     
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