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Old Posted Jan 21, 2010, 9:50 PM
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Old Posted Jan 22, 2010, 6:25 AM
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You know - I think there IS a point at which the font of a station's name is too big ...

Imagine if Yaletown-Roundhouse Station used font that big - it would wrap around the building!
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 22, 2010, 6:28 AM
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You know - I think there IS a point at which the font of a station's name is too big ...

Imagine if Yaletown-Roundhouse Station used font that big - it would wrap around the building!
Looks like I'm not the only one that thinks that way...
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 22, 2010, 7:00 AM
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loll...i can deal with big and oversize, just don't make it puny like the Canada Line ones.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 22, 2010, 7:37 AM
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I was glad to hear that the Canada Line signs will be brought to the same standard... they cannot be changed soon enough.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 22, 2010, 8:32 AM
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The station ones aren't going to be changed. Only the addition of T signs. TransLink does not have the authority or power to be able to change the signs in the Canada Line.


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Old Posted Jan 22, 2010, 3:55 PM
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The station ones aren't going to be changed. Only the addition of T signs. TransLink does not have the authority or power to be able to change the signs in the Canada Line.


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Can Translink put T signs on Skytrain, too? ..... whoops! ...... looking back a few pictures, it seems they have.
(The more homogeneity within the entire system, the better, IMHO)
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 22, 2010, 5:26 PM
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I like the T at Granville Station, but the signage is different on the new entrance (Dunsmuir) and the old one (Howe). It's really obvious when standing at the intersection where A&W / 7-11 / BCIT meet.

Funny, I can't even see any signage from before, but I'm pretty sure it was there:

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Old Posted Jan 22, 2010, 5:47 PM
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TransLink does not have the authority or power to be able to change the signs in the Canada Line.
I am sure it is as simple as TransLink writing a cheque and telling ProTrans what they want. The Canada Line signs were already changed in various ways, such as the fare paid signs. If we are throwing Translink money at signage, I don't see why it would matter who the operator of each station is, or why ProTrans would object.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 22, 2010, 8:09 PM
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The text side is a little overkill. I do like the T though.
     
     
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The text side is a little overkill. I do like the T though.
In Stockholm, the subway stations are all marked with a "T".
It stands for "tunnelbana"
(Their system is worth looking at too; lots of islands inlets and geography to overcome)
Some of the stations are mind-blowingly beautiful.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2010, 3:55 PM
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By Michael Goldberg, Special to the Sun
January 18, 2010

Finances once again plague Trans-Link. Despite more than $7 billion invested in public transit, Trans-Link has little ability to pay for capital or operating expenses and earn a return for British Columbians. The TransLink board is forced to reduce desired service levels and expansion plans to meet this financial stress.

Relatively simple and proven solutions abound in dozens of cities around the world. The tools to implement these solutions unfortunately are not within TransLink's limited powers, resting largely with the province. For TransLink to prosper it needs greater powers to meet its responsibilities and expectations.

In successful transit systems, transit is planned and operated as part of an integrated urban transportation system. Transportation and land-use planning and development are closely integrated and often within the same agency. Given this integration, transit-transportation agencies usually have broad powers to set transit fees and road tolls to balance the real costs borne by automobile and transit users. Many have significant powers over land use and urban development adjacent to stations, which provides: the ability to share in the increased land values that result from higher accessibility and land values near stations; large pools of riders who live, work and shop in transit-linked dense development; and strong rental income for transit operators by leasing station property to retail and service businesses. Finally, most have powers to borrow for capital needs.

TransLink has none of these powers and cannot appropriate the associated financial benefits that they bring. It exists in an environment with very limited supportive zoning and development planning around stations by municipalities (especially Vancouver). Ridership and revenue fall well below what they can be, resulting in financial stress.

Let's explore the benefits to transit financing and service levels if Trans-Link were given the following two key powers: to set transit fees and road tolls to balance the real costs borne by automobile and transit users; and to set land use and zoning adjacent to stations. To understand the importance of these, let's see what happens because TransLink does not have these powers.

The inability to set transit fees and road tolls means transit riders pay virtually the full cost of the transit services they use, but automobile users pay much less, especially considering the congestion and pollution costs they impose and the subsidies they receive from free streets and roads. Transit thus operates at a considerable cost disadvantage and the ability to switch automobile users to more environmentally sound and land-use conserving transit is severely hampered. The playing field is not level; it's tilted against transit in an era of increasing concern about sprawl, congestion and greenhouse gases. Conclusion: TransLink needs the ability to set tolls on roads, particularly tolls that vary with peak demand, to help manage automobile and highway use and put transit on an even cost footing.

Next consider the inability of Trans-Link to set land use and zoning adjacent to stations. Most transit stations, especially those in Vancouver, are surrounded by low-density land uses, producing low ridership levels and tax revenues. There are good examples of station-area density in Burnaby: Metrotown and Patterson are notable but still densify less than half of the optimum station impact area. Emerging station-area development in Surrey City Centre, New Westminster's core and Richmond City Centre with the Canada Line are still works in progress and unable as yet to have a positive impact for TransLink.

Turning to the worst examples of station area development, Vancouver tops the list: Commercial and Broadway is the worst, Oakridge close behind, and the supposedly "densified" Cambie and Broadway is also ludicrously underdeveloped despite exceptional transit access and ridership potential.

The opportunity costs of not having higher densities are high: less flexible land uses and lower ridership. Without a larger customer base, a financially unsustainable TransLink results, as does continued sprawl development, decreased housing affordability, inefficient urban form, congestion and pollution -- all creating a region less conducive to attracting businesses and talent for the future, leading to decreased global competitiveness from high internal transportation and real property costs.

Potential benefits from granting TransLink needed powers are equally high, including: an added tax base through higher density; compact, efficient urban form and low servicing costs; added toll revenues while shifting auto users to transit; greatly increased ridership and fare box revenue; and a more economically and ecologically sustainable region.

We have not seized the opportunities TransLink created, while simultaneously imperilling its finances. We need to equip TransLink with the powers to succeed and do it quickly given long planning and development lags in transportation and property development.

The future can and should be rosy. The needed changes exist in hundreds of cities globally.

There is nothing scary that we have to do -- we have already densified successfully and have lots of successful models to borrow.

Michael Goldberg is at the Sauder School of Business at the University of British Columbia.

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I really think people should be paying more attention to this article, this guy makes a lot of sense... hmmm maybe he should be in charge of transit planning. He points out the reasons that Translink is failing. I know a lot of people will hate the idea but it is probably time that metro Vancouver brought in road tolls as well as things like congestion charges. Right now people who drive are much more heavily subsidized then transit users as they do not pay for the hugely expensive pieces of infrastructure that they drive on, if they can increase the costs of driving to cost neutral, then the government will have more money to spend of other infrastructure like transit. Also if they bring drivings cost and transit cost to a more accurate playing field then I think you will see huge spikes in transit use. The most important point this guy makes though is that Translink should be able to help to determine what type of development is to be built in and around its stations, if the province and municipalites could actually figure how to control development then transit use in metro Vancouver could actually dare I say it.........become sustainable
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2010, 7:28 PM
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He makes enormous sense. Michael Goldberg's article should be "required reading" for people on the forum.

We can make our transit system mre revenue-producing with better planning, and this is an outline of how.

And yes, he points out the absur low density of Commercial-Broadway - the nexus of the current system - in a low density area, with buses underneath running as crowded as sardine cans.

Something's wrong somewhere, but here is a blueprint for how to remedy it.

Good post
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2010, 11:05 PM
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Transit police would like to remind you to not be nice and helpful.

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Transit Police are warning riders to beware of a woman requesting assistance after a rash of thefts at a SkyTrain station in Surrey, B.C.

The woman is suspected of using requests for help as "a ruse for brazen thefts," Transit Police said in a statement released Sunday.

In the most recent incident, the woman allegedly flagged down a driver near the Scott Road SkyTrain Station on Jan. 19, claiming her car had run out of gas.

The female driver ended up giving the woman a ride to the SkyTrain station. The driver later noticed her wallet was missing.

Transit Police say they are looking for a woman known as Rachelle Copeland, a Caucasian female approximately 35 years of age. She is about five feet five inches tall with a thin build, shoulder-length brown hair and missing some teeth.

All victims have described the suspect as walking with a noticeable limp.

Anyone with information is asked to call the Transit Police at or the Surrey RCMP at 604-599-0502.
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-columbia/story/2010/01/24/bc-skytrain-thefts-transit-police.html

I guess she must be quite a looker if she's able to con so easily!

     
     
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2010, 11:23 PM
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2010, 11:26 PM
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Old Posted Jan 25, 2010, 12:05 AM
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The rule is quite simple.

Do not help anyone you do not know.

No matter what their story might be.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 25, 2010, 2:05 AM
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The rule is quite simple.

Do not help anyone you do not know.

No matter what their story might be.
And we wonder why people think Vancouverites are cold. Just joking.

Seriously, not to just judge based on appearances but she should have been throwing out huge red flags to anyone thinking about helping.
     
     
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