YVR Airport & Sea Island Developments Discussion - Page 111

Metro-One · #**2201** Posted **Jan 7, 2010, 1:59 AM**

So starting on March 28th Air Canada is going to have direct flights from Calgary to Tokyo.

While this is good for Calgary, why can they have a direct flight to Tokyo when Vancouver no longer has a direct flight to Osaka (a route I miss very much, because I used it at least twice a year).

It seems that Toronto's strangle hold over European and other such destinations will not allow Vancouver to open up to such areas, but Vancouver is not given the same strangle hold over Asian/Pacific destinations.

I hate Canadian air travel politics.

What I am wondering though, is this a seasonal ticket that happens every year or is this a new thing?

Yume-sama · #**2202** Posted **Jan 7, 2010, 4:05 AM**

It's not so much a new direct flight, as it is making an existing Toronto flight make a stop in Calgary on the way, 3x per week.

twoNeurons · #**2203** Posted **Jan 7, 2010, 5:00 AM**

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Originally Posted by Yume-sama

It's not so much a new direct flight, as it is making an existing Toronto flight make a stop in Calgary on the way, 3x per week.

Which is similar to the flight #1/2 Toronto - Narita... via Vancouver.

trofirhen · #**2204** Posted **Jan 9, 2010, 9:58 PM**

This may or may not provide though-provoking reading for some of you.
Some may agree with the principle, others not. It would be interesting to see one or two opinions posted.

http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs...efends-canada-s-protectionist-skies.aspx

usog · #**2205** Posted **Jan 11, 2010, 3:11 AM**

So JAL is finally about to asplode, I wonder if they'll keep NRT-YVR or let ANA or otherwise have it.

trofirhen · #**2206** Posted **Jan 11, 2010, 7:10 AM**

Someone will get it. It may not be that important who it is just now.

Yume-sama · #**2207** Posted **Jan 11, 2010, 7:26 AM**

It won't be ANA. So, if JAL does go (though the government has just given it a boat load of money, and it is supposed to be sold off to AA or Delta), just expect to see Air Canada double their price

twoNeurons · #**2208** Posted **Jan 11, 2010, 5:11 PM**

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Originally Posted by Yume-sama

It won't be ANA. So, if JAL does go (though the government has just given it a boat load of money, and it is supposed to be sold off to AA or Delta), just expect to see Air Canada double their price

Agreed. ANA and AC are both in the Star Alliance. The only way we'll see ANA in Vancouver is if they ever decide to fly on their own metal from Osaka (ANA is headquartered in Osaka). I don't hold much hope for AC to reinstate its YVR-KIX service for a while. They may wait until they have 787s.

It could be a route that ANA would like, however.

if AC raises its prices, it will make flying from SEA all the more attractive.

Yume-sama · #**2209** Posted **Jan 11, 2010, 5:56 PM**

Yeah, but with the thought of even going to America being so nauseating, I'm sure the majority of people wouldn't.

Waders · #**2210** Posted **Jan 12, 2010, 7:11 AM**

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Originally Posted by Yume-sama

Yeah, but with the thought of even going to America being so nauseating, I'm sure the majority of people wouldn't.

Even flying to Canada from other countries is now getting more screening because of new potential threat.

Source: http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/st...ecurity_100111/20100111?hub=TopStoriesV2

Yume-sama · #**2211** Posted **Jan 15, 2010, 3:12 AM**

Just weeks after decreasing its weekly service from Vancouver - Mexico City to 5, from 7, JAL has announced that starting next week... it will once again be daily service.

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The frequency of existing code share one-way flights from Tokyo (Narita) to Vancouver operated by JAL, and from Vancouver to Mexico City operated by MX, will also increase from 5 to 7 flights a week starting January 18, 2010

http://press.jal.co.jp/en/release/201001/001421.html

Rusty Gull · #**2212** Posted **Jan 15, 2010, 5:07 AM**

JAL is not going under. It may become the world's first "zombie airline", but it will not go under.

GeeCee · #**2213** Posted **Jan 15, 2010, 5:14 AM**

Air Canada acts pretty zombie-like at times..

trofirhen · #**2214** Posted **Jan 15, 2010, 5:34 AM**

Air Canada?? Zombie like?! That's for sure! It's needs artificial blood to keep it alive. Please refer to the link, and you'll get a taste of what I mean.

http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs...efends-canada-s-protectionist-skies.aspx

Yume-sama · #**2215** Posted **Jan 15, 2010, 5:41 AM**

It would be funny if Emirates took their A380 to Buffalo, instead of Toronto. However, now that they HAVE threatened Toronto, I bet the government does something to give them what they want

It would be upsetting to see them going to Seattle instead of Vancouver, as the article hinted.

Hot Rod · #**2216** Posted **Jan 16, 2010, 7:35 PM**

A380 can't land in Seattle. Good news for YVR!

Yume-sama · #**2217** Posted **Jan 16, 2010, 7:36 PM**

So they'll send a 777ER instead

?

Hot Rod · #**2218** Posted **Jan 16, 2010, 7:38 PM**

Y?

I don't see Seattle as big of an international pull.

Yume-sama · #**2219** Posted **Jan 16, 2010, 7:40 PM**

Well, I don't particularly think ridership from Calgary and Vancouver would be extraordinarily high, either. But for some reason they want in.

Most certainly not enough for an A380, anyways.

MalcolmTucker · #**2220** Posted **Jan 16, 2010, 7:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by Yume-sama

Well, I don't particularly think ridership from Calgary and Vancouver would be extraordinarily high, either. But for some reason they want in.

Most certainly not enough for an A380, anyways.

India.

As for A380 they have said one reason they use the A380 on the Toronto route is the low frequencies allowed.