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Old Posted Jan 12, 2010, 3:37 PM
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the article said it's been gone for 2 years now. i never noticed it gone either..

there;s a picture and description of the new public art piece going in at Stanley Park and Georgia st.
http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/oca/publicart/pdf/lg_aerodynamic.pdf
this installation is permanent. i'm really not feeling this one. not my thing..

and here's a rather interesting installation going in at the library (north plaza)
http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/oca/publicart/pdf/lg_walkin.pdf
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Old Posted Jan 12, 2010, 6:54 PM
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That art near Stanley Park looks on par with that art piece that was installed outside of the Save On Foods Memorial Arena in Victoria. Bring back Jaguar!
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 12, 2010, 7:05 PM
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Hopefully that first piece is going to be made of wood, so that maybe one day it will catch fire and do everyone a favor and burn to the ground.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 13, 2010, 2:26 AM
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Not really surprised to see this one, there will be an abundance of new hotel rooms after the games and it makes sense to retire some of them. Hopefully between this and the Denman Plaza proposed conversion the city can get rid of the STIR propram, or at the very least re jig it to better benefit the citizens. Would like to see the city approve this but make the developer include enough commercial space so that it doesn't result in a net job loss position.

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Rental turnaround Anthem Properties Group is making good on its long- range plan to convert the 233-unit Pacific Palisades Hotel on Robson Street back to residential use. Anthem and the Burnaby-based Beedie Group bought the 44-year old property in 2005 for $41million from the Kimpton Group.

Anthem asset manager David Ferguson told Business in Vancouver at the time that Anthem would continue to operate the Palisades as a hotel, but acknowledged that the property was “a phenomenally well-located piece of real estate.” Anthem had announced plans in 2004 to renovate the former Westcoast Transmission building at 1333 West Georgia as condos, so plans to convert the two-tower Palisades complex to residential units seemed consistent with prevailing developer interest in the area.

Ferguson said converting the hotel to residential use later this year, a move subject to municipal approval, follows the opening of several new hotels in the run-up to the 2010 Olympic Games. Anthem will keep the hotel open to serve the needs of Olympic visitors but plans to shut down the property at the end of April. Given the availabilityof newer, purpose-built hotel
properties, it seemed wiser to convert the Palisades back to residential use rather than invest in upgrades to help it compete against the Shangri-La on West Georgia, the Loden Hotel on Melville Street or the Coast Coal Harbour on West Pender.

“It was and is a great piece of real estate,” Ferguson said. “[But] it became obvious that we’d have to spend an awful lot of money to make it competitive, and it wouldn’t ever be really competitive because it was built as an apartment building, not a hotel.”

Upgrades to the Palisades property should be completed by early 2011. Originally built in 1966 as an apartment complex, the Palisades operated under the Shangri-La banner until the Kuok Group sold it to Kimpton in 1999 for $33.5 million.
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Old Posted Jan 13, 2010, 2:56 AM
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^ any word on the fate of the Coast Plaza?
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 13, 2010, 8:28 PM
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Does the Palisades conversion fall within the area restricted from Commercial to Residential conversions?
Could be a significant test for the City's moratorium on conversions.
     
     
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^ any word on the fate of the Coast Plaza?
Will likely remain a hotel operated by Coast for the next several years (ie. 5-10).
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 14, 2010, 4:27 AM
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A friend said that the lighting display in Yaletown is being installed.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 14, 2010, 4:31 AM
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cool - that one looked like a really good one
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 14, 2010, 1:22 PM
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Four massive highrises proposed for city core
BY TIFFANY CRAWFORD, VANCOUVER SUNJANUARY 14, 2010

City staff has proposed that council allow four new massive towers in the downtown core that would protrude into protected view corridors and dramatically alter the skyline.

One of the proposed locations, near Georgia Street and Seymour, could accommodate a 213-metre tower. That would be higher than Vancouver’s tallest highrise, the Shangri-La, a 201-metre landmark building that stretches 61 storeys into the sky.

Completed in 2008, Shangri-La surpassed the nearly 152-metre Wall Centre to become the tallest building in Vancouver.

In a Jan. 5 report, the city’s planning department proposed council approve expanding the bounds of the higher building policy in Vancouver’s Central Business District east down Georgia Street to False Creek and south down Burrard Street to the foot of the Burrard Bridge.

Staff also proposed allowing a 152-metre structure or structures at Georgia Street and Beatty, a 130-metre development at the end of Georgia and a 122-metre tower in the Burrard Street approach into the downtown.

The new towers would cascade in height from the central downtown to the water to remain consistent with the city’s “domed skyline” policy, the report said.

“While this recommendation basically redraws the boundaries of the current higher building policy it is also important to note that there is a break from current policy in that the higher buildings being considered would be allowed to intrude into protected view corridors,” the report states.

The new buildings would be required to have a “significant and recognizable new benchmark for architectural creativity and excellence, while at the same time making a significant contribution to the beauty and visual power of the skyline.”

The buildings would also be required to have the highest green standards, the report said.

The report is meant to show city council the effect of a limited number of higher buildings on the skyline and to gather feedback before making recommendations to council.

The final heights and exact locations of the buildings would be determined through urban design analysis.

Protecting view corridors in Vancouver’s downtown has been hotly debated recently. City council voted to go ahead with a 20-storey rental building in the West End on Bidwell Street that will block a view corridor of English Bay from Denman Street.

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Old Posted Jan 14, 2010, 1:37 PM
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Cool.

I'm trying to figure out the exact site for the 213m tower. Would it take over where the White Spot is across from the Scotia Tower or would it replace the parkade across from the Bay on Seymour St.?
     
     
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Cool.

I'm trying to figure out the exact site for the 213m tower. Would it take over where the White Spot is across from the Scotia Tower or would it replace the parkade across from the Bay on Seymour St.?
yes the bay parkade site
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 14, 2010, 2:25 PM
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Ah ok. Great location. Now let's just hope for a great design*.


*Assuming the developers will actually take advantage of the allowed height.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 14, 2010, 5:04 PM
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Neat. Really it's "one massive tower proposed for city core" the other three heights don't seem that out of line with much of Vancouver's highrises.

Hopefully it's a signature tower, it would definitely stand out.
     
     
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Note the opening line to the story - so this is nothing that we haven't heard before...
It's really stretching the meaning of "proposal" to the point of being a misleading headline.

BTW - good to hear that the Higher Buildings Policy will be allowed to trump the View Cones Policy
- at least for the 4 "special" sites.

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Old Posted Jan 14, 2010, 8:39 PM
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Couldn't find the other thread with similar articles...

Nothing really new in the article - but at lea it contnued pressure on the City of Vancouver to densify around SkyTrain stations.

Note that the cost for these nice-to-haves (or the impact of cost in delaying them) hasn't been mentioned (the author is a UBC professor, not a businessperson). i.e. Metrotown's parking lots will be eventually built out.


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Is Vancouver a truly global city? Maybe

By Michael Goldberg, Special to the Sun
January 14, 2010

Vancouver began in 1886 as an international city and transportation centre tying Canada to Asia. Our 100th birthday party, Expo 86, reaffirmed our transportation roots and firmly established Vancouver on the international stage.

A year later, the unique federal-provincial $6-million Asia Pacific Initiative (API) heralded Vancouver as "an Asia-Pacific Centre for trade, commerce and tourism." API began numerous efforts fostering Vancouver and British Columbia as key Asia-North America links. Among API's successes were the privatization of Vancouver International Airport, new gateway concepts and recognizing the power of our immigrant communities to connect us to the world. During this period, B.C. trade with Asia exceeded trade with the U.S. for the first time, reinforcing Asia's importance in the province's future.

Post-Expo, Vancouver became a target for high-profile Asian real estate investment with Li Ka-shing's purchase of the Expo site on the north side of False Creek, a tacit endorsement of Vancouver as a locale for large Asian developers. The resulting high-density housing transformed Vancouver by bringing highrise living for families.

In the late 1980s, immigration from both Taiwan and China further placed Vancouver on the Asia-Pacific map, giving us more family, business and cultural ties across the region.

Vancouver is now recognized on numerous international city rankings. We are a credible international city, but can we compete in the network of leading global cities? It is this network that will lead the global economy, and being in it is vital for our long-term economic success.

Accordingly, let's assess our strengths and limitations to see how we can succeed in the urban-based global economy. Our competitive strengths and achievements are significant. Vancouver is a beautiful city, a superb place to live. Our port and airport connect us efficiently to the world and our universities and diverse public and private educational systems are globally competitive and recognized. Our tourism, performing and visual arts, architecture, design and engineering exports are globally known and competitive. We have also achieved great renown for our new media, information technology and video gaming sectors and our vibrant, innovative, if underfunded, biotech sector.

We have numerous planning and urban development successes bolstering our competitiveness. Populating our downtown and developing and opening our three waterfronts is deservedly globally known and recognized. Vancouver city council's decision in November to create a high-density residential and office community in Northeast False Creek is key to densifying the core and expanding the supplies of housing and office space. The creation of public ceremonial space in that decision is also significant.

Further strengths include our highly educated population and our tolerance, diversity and openness to the world. Our excellent infrastructure like rapid transit, the Vancouver Convention Centre, BC Place, the Olympic venues, False Creek and Coal Harbour waterfront walks and marinas, and much more, all represent valuable competitive assets. Our extensive, widely used and greatly admired parks and recreation resources add to our ability to attract and retain talent, the key resource in the global knowledge economy. We have great restaurants and are globally known for them, enhancing our edge, but our liquor laws and regulations negate some of this advantage.

In sum, we have wonderful assets to compete globally, but we also have major areas where we need to improve to be an economically successful city-region. Despite our achievements and deserved kudos we face a range of challenges and shortcomings. We have a balkanized and increasingly ineffectual regional governance system, including that for TransLink. We face growing congestion, pollution and travel times resulting from increasing sprawl in housing, office parks and shopping. To add to these problems we have zoning bylaws that greatly restrict density, height and land-use flexibility, resulting in high housing and real estate prices. These regulations hamper architectural and land-use innovation. Zoning and permit restrictions also limit outdoor dining and street activity, adding substance to our reputation as being boring.

Vancouver's restrictive zoning policy is "rent-seeking" in aiming to receive all the value created by rezoning, leading to slow, rigid and often inappropriate planning responses to changing economic and development environments; for instance, the five-year lag in Cambie Street corridor planning, which began only as the Canada Line opened. The two to three years needed to rezone properties also seems out of touch with economic reality and need.

There appears to be little understanding of land and property markets, which results in planning without grasping economic forces, as with banning condos in the downtown core to encourage offices, when there is little demand for office space.

Given the foregoing, let's turn to exploring ideas and actions that can overcome our weaknesses and vitally improve our global future.

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. . . and here are the steps we must take to ensure it is

By Michael Goldberg, Special to the Sun
January 14, 2010

First, and likely the most difficult hurdle, we must recognize we have significant problems to overcome while also acknowledging the need to compete globally. We must be strategic in our local, regional and provincial policy actions.

We need regional economic strategies and public-and private-sector leadership to attract and retain jobs and investment, while understanding how to achieve this. A "Montreal, Inc." approach of broad cooperation among senior government officials and private-sector leaders is a must to provide direction and influence with senior governments. We have not been effective in working with either the province or the feds to garner the support needed to realize our potential. The Vancouver Economic Development Authority just got the resources and mandate to chart an economic strategy for Vancouver, and, it is hoped, for the region too through its Metro Vancouver Commerce activities.

We need to address both larger issues and more granular details to prosper. On the big-picture scale, we must understand that success is not pre-ordained or effortless: We must earn our place in the world. We can no longer be smug about livability and past successes: Being pretty and not strategic won't cut it in the future. Toronto is paying for complacency as the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development recently stressed.

Local government fiscal straitjackets are an issue: Cities need more diverse and stable revenue sources, which require provincial backing. This should be among the first efforts of "Vancouver, Inc." More solid local government finances reduce rent-seeking land use and zoning processes to improve the supply and cost of urban development. Despite numerous planning successes, we still have not addressed some key small-picture issues, failing badly at virtually all levels of government to integrate transportation and land-use planning and development. Rapid transit is poorly, if at all, integrated into local land-use decisions or integrated within buildings or large developments. The Canada Line is the worst example with only the Granville and Georgia station linked directly into more than one building. Even Brentwood and Metrotown densify less than half the land around their stations. In well-integrated settings, stations are invisible functioning parts of buildings.

We have built wonderful parks and waterfront open space while failing elsewhere to improve our built environment. Creating pedestrian zones (Granville and Robson are my first choices) would greatly broaden urban enjoyment (if New York can close Times Square, and Frankfurt, Lyon and Buenos Aires their major thoroughfares permanently, we can). More ceremonial and public gathering spaces are needed as city council did in Northeast False Creek. Fostering shopping arcades and mid-block walks in our long downtown blocks would add to livability, use and enjoyment as occurs in hundreds of cities around the world. We can borrow the best ideas, while expanding our highly valued program of street closures and street festivals and make it vastly easier to enjoy outdoor dining, and socializing. Other valued pedestrian-friendly infrastructure would include underground system connections analogous to Toronto's PATH system. Poor transit integration hampers this, but opportunities still exist to link the Bentall and Pacific Centres and tie Robson Square to Pacific Centre.

Much higher densities are a must on major streets and bus routes to add housing, stem property prices, and allow aging householders to stay in their neighbourhoods, providing stability through changing land use and broader housing opportunities.

Most pressing here is upzoning around transit stations. We have spent more than $7 billion on three rapid transit lines while doing almost nothing in Vancouver to increase station area densities. Broadway and Commercial is the worst example with two rapid transit lines and myriad buses: Its central feature is a supermarket and parking lot. Oakridge is another example of not densifying and integrating transit into the neighbourhood, as are Nanaimo and 29th, and King Edward and Cambie. The "transit-oriented development" at Cambie and Broadway isn't. Its station connects to nothing; one-and two-storey buildings occupy two of the four corners; a "dense" six-storey complex is diagonally across from, and not connected to the station. Rapid transit must be an integral part of urban development from inception, not isolated afterthoughts.

What Vancouver needs to do is known and commonplace elsewhere. The paths to our future success are neither novel nor risky. Our biggest challenge is educating ourselves about the necessity of what needs to be done. Many solutions already thrive in Vancouver.

We just need to extend them so we can protect neighbourhoods, and enhance our biophysical, economic and social sustainability.

Michael Goldberg is H.R. Fullerton Professor of Urban Land Policy at the Sauder School of Business at the University of British Columbia.

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213m is not massive Couldn't they go 214 so we can at least get a 700 footer.
     
     
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Add a bit (10%?) for the mechanical penthouse and you're there.

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A friend said that the lighting display in Yaletown is being installed.
Edit - she also said that the lampposts being installed are for new streetlights, pedestrian lights as well as the light sculpture - and that the brackets on the lampposts looks "curvey" like the ugly tulip lamps with ivy that line the streets of Downtown South.

So don't hold your breath...
     
     
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We have built wonderful parks and waterfront open space while failing elsewhere to improve our built environment. Creating pedestrian zones (Granville and Robson are my first choices) would greatly broaden urban enjoyment (if New York can close Times Square, and Frankfurt, Lyon and Buenos Aires their major thoroughfares permanently, we can). More ceremonial and public gathering spaces are needed as city council did in Northeast False Creek. Fostering shopping arcades and mid-block walks in our long downtown blocks would add to livability, use and enjoyment as occurs in hundreds of cities around the world. We can borrow the best ideas, while expanding our highly valued program of street closures and street festivals and make it vastly easier to enjoy outdoor dining, and socializing.
Thanks for that interesting article(s), officedweller. I'm a fan of this part. Can't wait to see Robson and Granville as pedestrian malls during the Olympics.
     
     
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