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Old Posted Jan 10, 2010, 4:50 PM
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I still would like to see how much it will be with the concrete core!
I dont know.
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Old Posted Jan 10, 2010, 4:52 PM
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The Empire State is approximately 370,000 tons...

The Sears Tower is around 222,500 tons...

I have not found any solid figures for the Freedom Tower but it is expected to use around 50,000 tons of steel by the end. So even figuring in concrete it looks like it will weigh even less.

The thing to remember is Today's steel is stronger, lighter, etc. There also will not be such a huge amount of concrete poured for the core compared to the Empire State's and Sears Tower's concrete amounts.
Today's steel is stronger, but still weighs about 490 pounds per cubic foot. You are also grossly underestimating the amount of concrete in Tower One.
Neither the Sears tower or the ESB have a concrete core, so 90% of the concrete in those buildings is in the floor slabs.


A rough estimate of the core and floor slab weights plus the 46,000 tons of structural steel plus a rough estimate of the weight of the rebar gives me a figure of 310,000 tons. That does NOT include anything from bedrock to the ground floor except the perimeter columns. The 310,000 tons is the weight of the structure, not the finished building. I'm sure that 370,000 tons for the ESB includes everything (plumbing, electrical, non-load bearing walls heat and AC plants etc. and 8,000 tons of bricks)

Another way to look at is Tower One well weigh about as much as 6.8 Iowa Class Battleships.

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Old Posted Jan 10, 2010, 5:19 PM
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NYGuy, What?? The Empire State Building weights more than the Sears? Compare both in the diagram, the Sears is much taller and bigger. Will the Freedom Tower the building with the most weight in NYC? It will be the tallest, but... How much will this one weight once completed?
I think the point NYGuy was making is that the ESB was overbuilt due to the technology available at the time.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 10, 2010, 5:33 PM
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Was just having a look over at earthcam and something dawned on me. With only one mechanical floor to go and then one normal floor completed per week, in 2 months all new construction will be out of frame.

Anyone know the best place to see progress after this happens?
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Old Posted Jan 10, 2010, 5:36 PM
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does anyone have a estimate as to when the 1st steel will go up on the 1st office floor?
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 10, 2010, 5:41 PM
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Was just having a look over at earthcam and something dawned on me. With only one mechanical floor to go and then one normal floor completed per week, in 2 months all new construction will be out of frame.

Anyone know the best place to see progress after this happens?
Good point, I wonder what they'll do. I'm thinking that they'll have it panning from the bottom to the top..I know of one in Times Square that does this..only from left to right. But who am I to say what they're gonna do? Anyone else have any ideas?
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 10, 2010, 6:40 PM
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Good point, I wonder what they'll do. I'm thinking that they'll have it panning from the bottom to the top..I know of one in Times Square that does this..only from left to right. But who am I to say what they're gonna do? Anyone else have any ideas?
I thin also that hey will have a panning. At RebuildGroundZero.org you will find another webcam.
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the earthcam is funded by the National Sept. 11th Memorial & Museum. I doubt they will change the perspective to cover the Port Authority's 1 WTC,.
     
     
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Photos I took jan/10/2010












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Old Posted Jan 11, 2010, 12:12 AM
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This floor looks like it could be completed this week.
     
     
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Stunning photos/colours ^^^

I love all the crane action
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looks like slow progress on the concrete core
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Thanks for all that pictures. Great progress. The base seems to be finished soon.
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Old Posted Jan 11, 2010, 2:17 PM
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I love looking at images of the base, because we are now seeing the tower as it will be, rather than a rendering. The upper floors will gradually fill in, but the tower is "there" now.
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Old Posted Jan 11, 2010, 5:52 PM
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This building is really flying now. Just awesome.
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I cant wait till we start to see the facade, its been so long!
     
     
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I cant wait till we start to see the facade, its been so long!
"facade". What a beautiful word. We've been waiting so long that I hardly believe that it is even possible, let alone happening soon.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 12, 2010, 12:32 AM
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Update from morrongiello (Jan 11)

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Old Posted Jan 12, 2010, 12:47 AM
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WOWS before for some reason i didn't appreciate the base height and how huge it is, but this picture changed my mind completely now i know soon after the base will be done this thing will be huge.
Thnx NYguy for updating with new pics always.
     
     
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