NEW YORK | One World Trade Center | 1,776' Pinnacle / 1,373' Roof | 108 FLOORS - Page 347

OneWorldTradeCenter · #**6921** Posted **Dec 27, 2009, 8:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by CGII

There is no space. The mooring mast is far too small a space to have rentable floor space when one factors in mechanicals, elevators, stairs...

Number of floors, beyond an engineer's or architect's perspective, is a unit of height measurement, just like horsepower is for a car. Does a Mustang actually have 300 horses in its engine? Of course not. It is a lamens standard by which the power of the engine could be communicated to people that know nothing about how to measure power capacities of engines. And it is the same that by saying '1 WTC is 108 floors tall,' one communicates a generic idea about floor height relative to other buildings instead of saying '1 WTC is 70 standard floors tall, 12 double height mechanical floors tall, and 4 entry or service levels of differentiating height.' It's easier to say 'it's the [equivalent] of 108 floors tall' and be done with it.

Thats right. In the case of the ESB I did not mean the antenna. I did mean the tower atop the 86th floor. However...

CGII · #**6922** Posted **Dec 27, 2009, 9:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by OneWorldTradeCenter

Thats right. In the case of the ESB I did not mean the antenna. I did mean the tower atop the 86th floor. However...

I know you do not mean the antenna. The mooring mast is the tower atop the 86th floor. It does not contain enough room for rentable space because it is mostly occupied with mechanicals, stairwells and elevators. See how tiny it is? That's all the room they could allow for the 103 floor observation deck.

newyorkology.com

NYguy · #**6923** Posted **Dec 28, 2009, 1:22 AM**

It's not unusual for official floor designations to be different from the actual floor count. Here's a similar look at the stacking of 7 WTC:

NYCLuver · #**6924** Posted **Dec 28, 2009, 1:50 AM**

Bucktown718 · #**6925** Posted **Dec 28, 2009, 2:05 AM**

I'm guessing we wont see any changes till 2010 come?

CarlosV · #**6926** Posted **Dec 28, 2009, 6:08 AM**

My monthly pilgrimage to ground zero....

bonus shot..the new W hotel under construction behind the cursed Deutsche Bank....

CHAPINM1 · #**6927** Posted **Dec 28, 2009, 6:57 AM**

Great shots as always Carlos! Looks like they still haven't fixed the "oh —" yet... BTW, I'm really diggin the new W Hotel, it will almost be a duplicate of the Millennium Hilton which also have a phenominal view and looks over the WTC site but will in fact probably be better!

OneWorldTradeCenter · #**6928** Posted **Dec 28, 2009, 1:51 PM**

Really nice pictures. I cant wait until 1 WTC is getting much taller...

OneWorldTradeCenter · #**6929** Posted **Dec 28, 2009, 1:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by CGII

I know you do not mean the antenna. The mooring mast is the tower atop the 86th floor. It does not contain enough room for rentable space because it is mostly occupied with mechanicals, stairwells and elevators. See how tiny it is? That's all the room they could allow for the 103 floor observation deck.

newyorkology.com

Thanks for explaining.

The Architect · #**6930** Posted **Dec 28, 2009, 10:25 PM**

Does anyone know who is detailing the structural steel and what modeling program they are using?

NYguy · #**6931** Posted **Dec 29, 2009, 2:45 AM**

jsr7

A look at earlier planning...

CGII · #**6932** Posted **Dec 29, 2009, 6:01 AM**

Not to resurrect a dead argument as I am sure I will, but where is the 1,402 ft 'roof' height coming from? All sources I've seen indicate a 1,368 ft parapet height.

StarScraperCity · #**6933** Posted **Dec 29, 2009, 6:08 AM**

As far as I can tell, that is the measurement to the top of the communications ring.

Zapatan · #**6934** Posted **Dec 29, 2009, 6:56 AM**

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Originally Posted by CGII

Not to resurrect a dead argument as I am sure I will, but where is the 1,402 ft 'roof' height coming from? All sources I've seen indicate a 1,368 ft parapet height.

There was debate that if there are floors in the newer version of the communications ring, than the top of it should be the roof.

The construction looks like it's been standing still for a little while. Is it just the weather?

OneWorldTradeCenter · #**6935** Posted **Dec 29, 2009, 11:25 AM**

I think, they work inside the building. Or it´s standig still, becuase of christamas and new year. I hope construction is continung in a few days. I´m affraid that the tower become on-hold.

westmc9th · #**6936** Posted **Dec 29, 2009, 12:44 PM**

lol what are you guys talking about they just installed the first perimeter column for the next level and 7 or more inner columns pluts the core has risen

OneWorldTradeCenter · #**6937** Posted **Dec 29, 2009, 2:06 PM**

One question: Why are in the diagramms/ building page given two heigts: The antenna and the spire. I think only the spire is enough.

NYguy · #**6938** Posted **Dec 29, 2009, 2:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by OneWorldTradeCenter

I think, they work inside the building. Or it´s standig still, becuase of christamas and new year. I hope construction is continung in a few days. I´m affraid that the tower become on-hold.

You guys need to relax. This tower will be under construction for a few years. Some times may seem busier than others, but the tower is under construction. Or take the advice I've given before and just check the thread once a month or so. The changes will be more visible than day to day.

OneWorldTradeCenter · #**6939** Posted **Dec 29, 2009, 3:07 PM**

http://www.earthcam.com/usa/newyork/groundzero/ Have a look here (Cam 2). Steel is going up on the east facade.

westmc9th · #**6940** Posted **Dec 29, 2009, 3:23 PM**

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Originally Posted by OneWorldTradeCenter

http://www.earthcam.com/usa/newyork/groundzero/ Have a look here (Cam 2). Steel is going up on the east facade.

that went up yesterday, not much happening there today, but the southwest portion of the memorialis being covered