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Montgomery's changing skyline: Bronner sure RSA Judicial Office Building will be a success

By Cosby Woodruff

The Retirement Systems of Alabama is changing Montgomery's skyline again with construction of a new office building above the old Alabama Supreme Court building.

Construction began about 18 months ago on a building that some historical preser­vationists tried to block but that RSA chief David Bron­ner was determined to see completed.

Bronner, who oversees the pension giant with build­ings that dominate Mont­gomery's skyline, brushed aside opposition to the proj­ect when it was announced a little more than two years ago. Even today he said the building he envisions is bet­ter than the alternative.

"You had two choices there," he said. "Either you could build something or you could just let it crumble."

Bronner said he remains convinced the building will eventually prove to be the right idea, but he also knows the timing was anything but perfect.

Even though RSA is not dependent on bank financ­ing to complete its projects, many tenants might find revenue tight when it is time to sign a deal. In general, commercial office space is not a booming business right now.

"It is a terrible time to have any new construction," he said.

That is another good rea­son for RSA's deep pockets. Private developers who have partially complete buildings must decide whether to put more money into the projects or walk away from money already invested.

Bronner said there was only one choice for his orga­nization.

"We are going to finish it," he said.

The building's impact on Montgomery's skyline, and whether it improves or dam­ages the view, depends on where the viewer is and his or her point of view.

Bronner insists the build­ing will fit in well with other buildings downtown and says from some angles it won't even be obvious there is a new structure. Historic preservationists railed against the building more for how it will fit into its sur­roundings than the fact it is being built above a historic structure.

"Any time you have a 12-story building, it is going to have some kind of effect," he said.

Renderings by RSA pub­lished in a brochure on the building show that parts of the original structure will be retained in the new build­ing.

RSA plans to maintain the courtroom for use by ten­ants, and a courtyard will make note of the building's past and some of the historic cases heard there.

There is no firm comple­tion date for the building. Bronner said he expects the exterior portions to be com­plete in the next year. RSA will finish the inside on a floor-by-floor basis as it finds tenants.

"You don't want to just put up a wall somewhere be­cause they might not want a wall there," he said.

Even in good economic times it is unusual to have a building completely rented when it opens. In the down economy, Bronner said it is even less likely to have a long list of tenants when it opens.

"It took us four years to fill up the (RSA) Tower," he said of Montgomery's tallest building.

When the RSA announced the building in late 2007, the estimated cost was $200 mil­lion. Bronner said he does not know what the final cost will be.

Joe Toole, a leasing execu­tive with RSA, said the building will have more than 340,000 square feet of space available for tenants. It will also have an attached parking deck to provide spaces for an estimated 1,000 people who will eventually work in the building. When complete, the building will be the eighth RSA office structure in Montgomery.

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Had a nearly surreal weekend in Montgomery Saturday night. Was able to ship the kids off to different grandparents, and the wife and I were able to hit SaZa's. Sat in a bustling, modern Italian restaurant, in downtown and watched a horse drawn carriage drive by outside.... weird and nice all at once.

Sat at the 'chef's counter', and had a pretty good dinner too.

They've got to finish up all that work on Commerce though, it's clogging things up.
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Of course, there are other renderings that have the building set further back from Dexter. When I was in MGM last, it almost seemed like the building was facing the opposite street. Of course it was dark, and we all know that renderings are all different.

That said, I have to say I LOVE how they have the glass wall in the front of the building, displaying the judicial building. I hope I'm not alone in that.

EDIT: Just looked at more actual pictures. Yep, it is that imposing...
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These are some 3d renderings that the Montgomery Advertiser had online and wrote about this past weekend.

http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/apps...ES010305&Lopenr=912260802&Ref=PH&Params=

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Of course, there are other renderings that have the building set further back from Dexter. When I was in MGM last, it almost seemed like the building was facing the opposite street. Of course it was dark, and we all know that renderings are all different.
It does right now, but when they start to construct the glass shell around the remaining building it will have more of a presence along Dexter. You can see how they haven't start that yet on picture 12 from the MA website.

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That said, I have to say I LOVE how they have the glass wall in the front of the building, displaying the judicial building. I hope I'm not alone in that.
I like it too...I think it's a very intriguing way to capture and maintain the historical aspects of the building while still allowing for needed expansion. Just hate that it's final version became so overwhelming.
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Had a nearly surreal weekend in Montgomery Saturday night. Was able to ship the kids off to different grandparents, and the wife and I were able to hit SaZa's. Sat in a bustling, modern Italian restaurant, in downtown and watched a horse drawn carriage drive by outside.... weird and nice all at once.

Sat at the 'chef's counter', and had a pretty good dinner too.

They've got to finish up all that work on Commerce though, it's clogging things up.
My sister-in-law and her husband stay at the Renaissance over the weekend and they liked the development going on around the Alley. I believe they ate at Wintzell's.

And yes, I wish they could hurry up and finish the work along Commerce too.
Ongoing work on the new lofts and the rooftop bar is what I heard is the hold-up.
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That's because it is obtrusive!
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If you compare the photos OldCloverdale posted versus the images from the Montgomery Advertiser...the posted images seems fairly accurate. The only major difference is the rendering of the building.

Consider this...assuming the images that the Montgomery Advertiser published came from the architect or the RSA...is there a reason they don't include a human perspective from Court Square looking back down Dexter toward the Capitol? My guess is the reason that image is not included and that is because the building is that obtrusive. I'm sure whoever generated those renderings for the RSA also made the realistic perspective your talking about, but they are choosing not to show it.
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The only pics I have seen are the ones that were published by the Montgomery Advertiser. Those images came from the perspectus put out by RSA or the Architect of which I have a copy. These images IMO are just designed to show the building, not Dexter Ave and I don't believe anyone is leaving out photos intentionally. I have never seen any images looking up Dexter from court square...well, except those by OldCloverdale. I think it will be a great building and can't wait until its finished.
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...These images IMO are just designed to show the building, not Dexter Ave and I don't believe anyone is leaving out photos intentionally...
Considering the amount of money going into the design and construction I'm sure dozens of different sketches and renderings were completed and any firm worth their salt would have something looking up Dexter. Especially considering it looks like those images were "photographs" generated from a 3d model, they could have some produced from several vantage points.

But this is all speculation based on my knowledge of how design firms work, plus I don't think it's a bad thing that if was created that they chose not to publish it, it's fairly common practice.
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Obtrusive or not, it's new and I love it.
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I think it looks like a giant Transformer devouring a historical jewel.

But... Hey... it's not my city. It is my state capital though


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I think it looks like a giant Transformer devouring a historical jewel.

But... Hey... it's not my city. It is my state capital though


Roooaaar!

Well done BRAVO! A lot of us feel the same way, but are also happy for the development in our downtown...
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Yes, lots of cities would love to have some new things built in their downtown.
But I guess I would've liked it to have been taller...
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Maybe in the new year we will constructively work on making things better rather than continue the incessant harping that seemed to dominate so much of the discussion in 2009.
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Realtors, business owners dedicated to Catoma Street revitalization

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Realtors, business owners dedicated to Catoma Street revitalization
By Cosby Woodruff • January 3, 2010

Jeffrey Paulk believes in downtown so much that he not only moved his business there, but also built a place for his wife's shop and will soon live there.

It is all part of a plan by a loose assortment of busi­nesses, property owners, de­velopers and Realtors to bring people and dollars to the Catoma Street neighbor­hood.

Paulk, who owns Paulk Construction, said it was im­portant for him to show a commitment to the area if he was going to try to sell others on his vision.

"I am going to work here, my wife will work here and we will live here," he said pointing to a small map of the area.

He is converting part of the building that houses his of­fice into a two-bedroom apartment. Just behind the apartment is a two-suite of­fice building he built recent­ly.

Half of that building houses the Veranda, Paulk's wife's hair and nail salon. The other half is leased to a law firm.

Across Catoma Street, Paulk and other property owners renovated a long-abandoned building, making it into a multi-suite rental property filled with profes­sional firms.

The lone remaining unit, at 316 Catoma St., is awaiting a tenant, possibly a restau­rant or bar.

The back half of Paulk's building is set aside for a branch bank that he hopes will soon fill the space.

Jerome Moore, a Realtor with Coldwell Banker Com­mercial, is handling many of the transactions and said the area has the potential to ex­pand the vibrant part of downtown.

Moore represents several properties in the Alley. The two developments, separated by the block occupied by the Renaissance Montgomery Hotel & Spa at the Conven­tion Center, are not compet­ing projects but can feed off each other, he said.

The Alley had a central plan and is built on that. Moore said that is fine for specific, geographically limited projects, but it won't work for the entire down­town.

He agreed everything must blend well for the area to have some sort of consis­tency, but insisted there is no master plan, design or even central developer for Catoma Street.

"You can't do a downtown that is master planned," he said.

Instead, the different part­ners and owners of the down­town property work well to­gether in a loose group.

"Nobody is going to do anything that hurts every­body," he said.

Moore said the city of Montgomery holds the key to the entire project with a piece of land bounded by Cat­oma Street, Bell Street and Molton Street. The site serves as overflow parking for the Renaissance, but is part of several scenarios for development of the neigh­borhood.

Moore said potential plans are for a pair of three-story buildings on the lots that will serve as retail, commercial and residential mixed use.

If that doesn't happen, it likely will become either greenspace or parking for whatever develops in the empty building at 316 Cato­ma St.

While the city is not a part­ner in this project as in the Alley, it still holds a strong hand in deciding what goes in. If it is not excited about any part of a proposal, it can simply withhold its key par­cel of land, Moore said.

Moore agreed the whole re­development is somewhat unorthodox. Not only is there no master plan or de­veloper, but also there is no major financial backer to pump unlimited money into the project.

A group of investors in the plans have plenty of risk, he said, and are willing to ac­cept it.

"We would rather have a company come in and not work out than have some­thing sit empty for a couple of years," he said.

He knows that may mean accepting new businesses as tenants. New businesses of­ten find it tough to get enough bank financing, which means they are at a greater risk of failure for lack of capitalization.

"We know there is some risk in this," Moore said.

Then he points to inves­tors like Paulk who basically put their whole life into mak­ing it work and said the risk is worth it.















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Smart Code living appeal rising

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Smart Code living appeal rising
By Paul Sullivan • Special to the Advertiser • January 3, 2010

City planner Ken Groves knows the advantages of the Smart Code community lifestyle because he lives it daily.

In July, Groves moved into the Hampstead neighborhood off Taylor Road. Hampstead is the first community built according to Smart Code regulations in an undeveloped part of Montgomery.

Groves can walk to the YMCA to work out. He can stroll to dinner at the Number Sixteen restaurant, or pick vegetables from his plot in the Hampstead garden. He lives within easy walking distance of the village's center that includes a park, stores and other attractions. Groves is a fan of the arrangement.

"I dwell small and live large," he said.

The Smart Code was adopted for undeveloped areas of the city in 2007, and then for the city's core in 2008, said Faulkner University law professor Chad Emerson, who helped draft the ordinances.

The code's goal is to make new developments such as Hampstead more like the town centers of yesteryear. It's a desire to live without having to hop in the car to get something done.

"You can live there, work there, work out and shop," said Emerson of Hampstead.

Following the code is optional in undeveloped areas and mandatory in the downtown, said Emerson, who also serves on a national Smart Code advisory board.

For downtown, the aim is for projects to be more pedestrian-friendly, and for buildings or renovations to offer several possible uses. Plans could include retail or offices in the first floor of a structure and lofts above on the second floor. Emerson said Montgomery has gained national acclaim for adopting the Smart Codes.

When passed, Smart Codes replaced the existing ordinances adopted in 1964 that required single uses for buildings, Groves said.

Now a dentist can work in a downtown building and live above his office. "We can have dual compatible uses for buildings," Groves said.

The new Alabama Association of Realtors headquarters under construction in the Capitol complex is following the new regulations. Plans call for an abundance of glass on the ground floor, sidewalks and parking behind the building, Groves said.

The first-floor glass makes it easier for storefront shopping in the case of retail and also boosts opportunities for social interaction, Groves said.

More sidewalks, fewer one-way streets and parking on both sides of the street also are ways to cut down on how fast motorists drive, Groves said. Slower moving cars also should improve the safety for those on foot.

A study by the group Transportation for America said that more than 43,000 Americans -- including 3,906 children younger than 16 -- have lost their lives this decade while crossing or walking along a street in their community. The Washington-based group wants more focus on improving and updating the nation's road and highway system.

The coalition said the deaths typically are labeled accidents and are attributed to error by a driver or pedestrian. But most accidents happened along streets that were designed for speeding cars and not for walkers, people in wheelchairs or those riding a bicycle, the group argues.

For Montgomery's part, Groves believes the changes resulting from the Smart Codes will make the downtown area safer for pedestrians.

"We will have slower vehicular speeds with narrowing lane widths and two-way streets," he said. "It should pay off in the long run."

Life in Hampstead is already an improvement for Groves, who had lived for years in the Birmingham suburb of Vestavia. There, he said, he knew only a handful of people.

"Now I meet neighbors out walking the dog," he said. "I also see deer and turkeys in the natural area I live across from. I love it."
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Following the code is optional in undeveloped areas and mandatory in the downtown, said Emerson, who also serves on a national Smart Code advisory board.
I smiled at this particular sentence in the article. It should be amended to read "Following the code is optional in undeveloped areas and mandatory in the downtown, unless you are the RSA."

Isn't the guy quoted in this article the same Chad that used to post on these forums? I believe he got his feelings hurt over some issue and then gathered his toys and took them home with him...
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Isn't the guy quoted in this article the same Chad that used to post on these forums? I believe he got his feelings hurt over some issue and then gathered his toys and took them home with him...

LOL. Yeah, that's him. What a goat.
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