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Reset my password and viewed my tix... not bad. Nothing exceptionally bad or good within a category.

I wonder if anything good will be available on Saturday?
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I wonder/hope that tickets for the opening ceremonies will be available come Stage 3 of ticketing on Nov 7. $175 is kinda steep but I sure as heck am not going to pay any more than that to scalpers!
     
     
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What an ugly beast. Toronto show was real neat though, including the CN tower in the show.
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Panasonic readies Winter Olympics HD tech

Panasonic will provide a huge quantity of both broadcast and AV equipment for HD coverage of the Winter Olympics in Vancouver next year.


Competition venues and broadcasting locations in the Canadian city will be kitted out for HD broadcast coverage with:
160 P2 and DVCPRO HD recorders,
50 P2 HD camcorders,
16 multi-format switchers
600 monitors

All international video signals will be produced and distributed in HD from the International Broadcasting Centre to rights-holding broadcasters around the world.

DVCPRO HD will be the recording format for Games.

AV options

HD signals will also be provided for the large LED screens in the venues and stadiums.

At BC Place Stadium in downtown Vancouver - where the opening and closing ceremonies will take place, -Panasonic will install three LED video screens with a total display area of 243 m2.

The AV set-up will include:
29 LED screen systems,
91 audio systems,
1,200 monitoring and surveillance cameras
3,000 TVs

The kit will be provided through cooperation with the International Olympic Committee (IOC), the Vancouver Organizing Committee for the 2010 Olympic and Paralympic Winter Games (VANOC), and the Olympic Broadcasting Services Vancouver (OBSV).

3D screening

Panasonic is also sponsoring a corporate pavilion at the 2010 Winter Olympics that will showcase stereoscopic 3D technology.

The company plans to set up a 700 square-meter Full HD 3D Theatre that will show sports and entertainment in stereoscopic full HD 3D

It is not clear yet whether any of the 3D material will be from the Vancouver games themselves.

http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/technology/panasonic-readies-winter-olympics-hd-tech/5008460.article
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Panasonic readies Winter Olympics HD tech

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3D screening

Panasonic is also sponsoring a corporate pavilion at the 2010 Winter Olympics that will showcase stereoscopic 3D technology.

The company plans to set up a 700 square-meter Full HD 3D Theatre that will show sports and entertainment in stereoscopic full HD 3D

It is not clear yet whether any of the 3D material will be from the Vancouver games themselves.

http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/technology/panasonic-readies-winter-olympics-hd-tech/5008460.article
That is huge! 700 square metres is more than 7500 square feet. I am not sure whether the article is implying that the screen will be that large or merely the square footage of the theatre itself. 7500 square feet is a fair bit larger than the floorplate of an average Vancouver condo tower.
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Sounds like the sq ftage of the theatre
     
     
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At least we know an orchestra is involved....not sure why this is such a big deal:







VSO refuses to mime for Olympics
Vanoc wanted other musicians to ‘perform’ VSO recording at ceremony

By Randy Shore, Vancouver Sun
December 18, 2009 1:59 PM

VANCOUVER - The Vancouver Symphony Orchestra refused an invitation to record music for the Vancouver 2010 opening ceremonies because Vanoc wanted other musicians to “mime” the performance.

VSO conductor Bramwell Tovey was asked to conduct the recording session, but was told another conductor would perform his actions at the ceremonies.

“My participation at the opening ceremonies was dependent upon my agreeing that music I recorded would be mimed by another individual and I regarded that as fraudulent and withdrew,” Tovey told The Vancouver Sun.

The audience will at times hear more musicians playing than appear on stage, according to David Atkins, the executive producer of the opening and closing ceremonies.

VSO president and CEO Jeff Alexander said the VSO was asked to record a piece of music for the ceremonies, but was not asked to appear in the show.

Although Vanoc offered to credit Tovey and the VSO, Alexander said “it wouldn’t have made sense to allow the VSO name to be used.”

The VSO will perform at three events co-produced by Vanoc during the Games, said Alexander.

“We’re very happy about that,” he said.

Many VSO musicians will take part in the recording sessions for the opening ceremonies and a number of VSO players have been recruited to appear live with freelance musicians at the ceremonies.

“But it’s not the entire VSO and so we felt our name should not be attached to that,” he said.

Atkins explained the decision: “For international televised live spectacles of this size and scope, it is standard practice to pre-record the musical segments to ensure the integrity and security of the broadcast transmission.”

The artists and ensembles at the ceremonies will be performing live and all of them will participate in the recording sessions, but “some sections of the pre-recorded music will understandably feature a larger ensemble than appears on stage,” Atkins said in a statement given to The Sun.

Atkins would not reveal which, if any, of the VSO’s musicians will perform at the ceremonies or how they were selected.

In 2008, Beijing 2008 Olympic officials were embarrassed when it was revealed that an entrancing performance of Ode to the Motherland performed at the opening ceremonies of the Beijing Games by nine-year-old Lin Miaoke was a fake. The girl who actually sang the song was removed by a top member of the Chinese Politburo at the last moment and replaced by a girl with a “cute” face.

Seven-year-old Yang Peiyi was considered unacceptable because of her crooked teeth. Lin Miaoke, who lip-synched to Lin’s voice, became a sensation, granting media interviews before the fraud was revealed.

Tovey was approached by Winnipeg-based orchestra contractor Sam Lutfiyya one month ago to conduct a recording session to create a tape that would be used at the opening ceremonies. Tovey initially agreed and then rethought his position, telling Lutfiyya that he would withdraw. Lutfiyya died earlier this week.

All performers are asked by Vanoc to sign a strict confidentiality agreement, which includes statements such as “Recipient agrees to the granting of injunctive relief in Vanoc’s favour without proof of actual damages” and a promise by the signatory to reimburse Vanoc for any court costs associated with litigation due to a breach of the agreement.

The practice of pre-recording music for large-scale productions is a common one. In 1999, Tovey and the Winnipeg Symphony and a 400-voice chorus pre-recorded music for the Pan American Games ceremonies. Tovey, the choir and the orchestra performed live along with the recording, which was made to ensure that any mishap affecting the live performance would not interrupt the show.

The Vancouver Youth Symphony Orchestra will pre-record its performances for the closing ceremonies and play live along with the recording.

VYSO artistic director Roger Cole refused comment when contacted by The Sun: “I’ve signed an agreement. I can’t talk about that.”

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David Atkins' statement


December 18, 2009

Understandably, we can't confirm specific details on the Opening or Closing Ceremonies as they are confidential, including who is participating. But your question provides an interesting opportunity to provide some general information on our plans as it relates to the vocalists and music for the Opening and Closing Ceremonies.

Both Games Ceremonies will present a broad spectrum of Canadian musical expression. For international televised live spectacles of this size and scope, it is standard practice to pre-record the musical segments to ensure the integrity and security of the Broadcast transmission. If there were to be technical difficulties, this procedure also ensures that the show continues without interruption. To accomplish this, individual artists and ensembles that are featured in the Ceremonies perform live during the event and also participate in recording sessions to produce pre-recorded segments that play simultaneously with their live performance. The individual artists and ensembles performing in the ceremonies are the artists whose performances have been pre-recorded.

Given the range and number of musicians involved and to achieve the maximum musical impact and effectiveness, some sections of the pre-recorded music will understandably feature a larger ensemble than appears on stage. Of course, all musicians who have participated in either the recording session or ceremony will be acknowledged in the ceremony program.

David Atkins

Executive Producer & Artistic Director

Opening, Closing and Victory Ceremonies

Vancouver 2010 Olympic Winter Games
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Old Posted Dec 19, 2009, 3:56 AM
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stupid but i agree with the conductor

it would be like hiring madonna to sing a song and getting someone else to mime it
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As a former producer of the VSO ( Summer concert series 1988) I can tell you that David Atkins is completely correct. The NYSO, London Symphony, Boston Pops and many others all understand this. It's SHOWBIZ.

Has this Orchestra learned NOTHING in 22 years? This attitiude is what almost sunk them in 1988. I should stress...it is not the musicians who are the problem, it's the attitude of the elitist management and board of directors that are behind this.

As someone who KNOWS from experience...the Games are better off without them. It's about the athletes NOT about the VSO.
     
     
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Further...When I produced for the VSO I wanted them to showcase their OSCAR (Platoon Soundtrack) but they said NO. What is your audience paying for then?

In the end it will be the VSO once again that is responsible for this gaff...welcome back to 1988.
     
     
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If the performers that night are actually performing, then isn't the conductor on stage that night conducting them? That would be true even if there is an additional track that has been taped previously, correct? It's not "miming" . . . seems like the VSO is really overreacting.

I just don't see how this can be a large issue. I'm not a musician or director though, so I'm glad others who know about such things have commented as well.

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After all... we are not talking about Ashley Simpson or Brittney Spears on the David Letterman show or the Grammy's we are talking about 3 billion people watching it live.

Once again...the VSO MANAGEMENT needs to pull the 2X4 out of their ass
     
     
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Hmm, yes, it kind of is a big deal. Likely the biggest thing they'll ever have a chance to be a part of. You can't buy this type of exposure.
     
     
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Bravo to the VSO for taking the principled stand.
They're professionals, not some high school band likely to flub the piece just because of the pressure of a live performance.

I'm glad to see they wouldn't deign to become the orchestral equivalent of the "ugly" Chinese girl who was pushed aside by China's rulers for the cute lip-syncher at the 2008 opening ceremonies.
     
     
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It sounds like rather typical, prideful, artistic diva drama to me

My cousin is an opera singer and I hear these kinds of stories from him all the time.
     
     
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When it comes down to it, it's David Atkins' show. If Bramwell Tovey can't accept that, then too bad for him. Some other orchestra would be happy to perform, I am sure.
     
     
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When it comes down to it, it's David Atkins' show. If Bramwell Tovey can't accept that, then too bad for him. Some other orchestra would be happy to perform, I am sure.
"Perform"? Its not a performance its lipsynching. And why would VANOC feel the need to have some else "sham conduct"?

Nice to see VANOC has been forced to issue an apology:

http://www.vancouversun.com/entertainmen...ming+maestro+incident/2363573/story.html
     
     
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maybe i read it wrong - but they want the VSO to record it and have some other people mime it - its different if they ask the VSO to record and than mime their own performance - thats pretty common - it is saying that they will have some people who are not the VSO miming
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Basically they want to do the exact same thing China did in 2008, and got so much backlash for.

This story only came out because the VSO made it public too.
     
     
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