NEW YORK | One World Trade Center | 1,776' Pinnacle / 1,373' Roof | 108 FLOORS - Page 337

NYguy · #**6721** Posted **Dec 7, 2009, 9:11 PM**

Beauty Playin 'Eh

meh_cd · #**6722** Posted **Dec 7, 2009, 9:43 PM**

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Originally Posted by J.M.

Odd question, but are alot of details going into the plaza at One World Trade Center?

Well, it's a relatively small area but it looks like it'll be nice.

Zensteeldude · #**6723** Posted **Dec 7, 2009, 10:06 PM**

Been there, done that, have the drinking problem to prove it.

Zensteeldude · #**6724** Posted **Dec 7, 2009, 10:12 PM**

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Originally Posted by Wheelingman04

I still don't know why they won't have an open air observation deck like the former WTC?

The Twins had there A/C supplied from a central chiller plant underground. This left the roof of the south tower basically empty and flat, the perfect place to put an open air observation deck.

Tower One is self contained, the chiller plant is on the roof. Add to that all the communications equipment and the window washing cranes, there is ZERO room left over.

NYGuy beat me to the MRP article ! LOL

Wheelingman04 · #**6725** Posted **Dec 8, 2009, 1:27 AM**

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Originally Posted by Zensteeldude

The Twins had there A/C supplied from a central chiller plant underground. This left the roof of the south tower basically empty and flat, the perfect place to put an open air observation deck.

Tower One is self contained, the chiller plant is on the roof. Add to that all the communications equipment and the window washing cranes, there is ZERO room left over.

NYGuy beat me to the MRP article ! LOL

I know all about that(not being rude). Christ I know way too much about those towers LOL, but I didn't know that everything was going to be on top of the tower. I guess I just assumed they would put everything underground again.

, but then again there is no twin which Im not very happy about. Overall the plan still looks good though.

Zensteeldude · #**6726** Posted **Dec 8, 2009, 2:44 AM**

You are too young to have seen the Twins go up, as I did. And I can see you have unresolved feelings about 9/11.

I was just answering a question.

PS: I also have a full set of prints for Tower One.

2-TOWERS · #**6727** Posted **Dec 8, 2009, 4:23 AM**

my father took me to the site in the early 70s and i was lucky enough to watch those beast rise .. looking at this new tower almost has the same look even though the construction is much different it still looks the same .,most lickely because of the same size 208' by 208' but its nice to see regular steel beams instead of the light weight trusses which doomed the originals..

Acer1 · #**6728** Posted **Dec 8, 2009, 6:22 AM**

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Originally Posted by Wheelingman04

I know all about that(not being rude). Christ I know way too much about those towers LOL, but I didn't know that everything was going to be on top of the tower. I guess I just assumed they would put everything underground again.

, but then again there is no twin which Im not very happy about. Overall the plan still looks good though.

Underground malls = big business. So everything 'less profitable' got dumped on the roof. :/

Honestly, did the old wtc site have so much retail space as the new one is planned for?

photoLith · #**6729** Posted **Dec 8, 2009, 8:43 AM**

Does anyone know on a given day how many people are working on the entire WTC site? Like how many people does it actively employ?

westmc9th · #**6730** Posted **Dec 8, 2009, 10:22 AM**

Bad weather the rest of the week! so hopefully some work can get done today

Ebola · #**6731** Posted **Dec 8, 2009, 10:31 AM**

There's no somke.

westmc9th · #**6732** Posted **Dec 8, 2009, 10:37 AM**

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Originally Posted by Ebola

There's no somke.

well it didnt look like welding at first and it just scared me a little it was probably nothing

Puzzlecraft · #**6733** Posted **Dec 8, 2009, 5:13 PM**

What is the diagonal beam near the top of the SW corner for? There are none in the other corners (see #1).

What are the long thin light gray vertical thingies near the corners of the structure between the 3rd and 5th floors. They don't exactly align from section to section (see #2).

NewYorker2009 · #**6734** Posted **Dec 8, 2009, 7:45 PM**

Did they just add the Subway Sandwich Shop?

Puzzlecraft · #**6735** Posted **Dec 8, 2009, 8:56 PM**

I see that a diagonal corner beam has now been placed in the NE corner. Going through archives, I see one was placed in the SE corner about a week ago, before the flooring was placed, so this is just the way the flooring support is being done.

The whitish "drainpipes", lol, remain unresolved.

Pizzuti · #**6736** Posted **Dec 8, 2009, 9:48 PM**

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Originally Posted by Acer1

Underground malls = big business. So everything 'less profitable' got dumped on the roof. :/

Honestly, did the old wtc site have so much retail space as the new one is planned for?

I think retail can be a good thing, because it gets more people in and out of the site at a daily basis (beyond the people who work there) and makes it more a part of the fabric of the city. I think there's a segregated, "gated" feeling to a high-profile office tower where only megacorporations set up offices and 99.9% of the people living within a 1-mile radius will never work there.

The only thing I'd be concerned about with a shopping area is keeping that stuff psychologically segregated from the memorial space, and that's more out of deference to the people who would be upset by that than my own personal opinion (if it were up to me, I'd have had the memorial off-site in a park somewhere and use the space Downtown for as much built space as possible). I always think a thriving, busy, active space is the most fitting use of a high-profile area.