Canada Line | Completed

[deasine]

Originally Posted by nname

The latest stat shows that system-wide ridership has increased by 11.1% in September and 5.7% in August.. so how much of that is contributed by Canada Line?

If we assume that there are 75000 passengers per day (average of weekends, start of holiday, etc.) on the Canada Line, that equates to a total of 2250000 passengers in the month of September, divided by the total ridership of September multiply by 100, equals 13.45%?

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by CLC

..Somehow it may be a wise decison if it indeed got cancelled for cost issue, the nearby King Edwards station already seems the least used of all the Vancouver stations, even Olympic Village is starting to overtake it..

Is that based on stats, or observation? On mid-day trips I've seen more people getting on at King Ed than Oakridge, which surprised me. King Ed has three bus routes serving it (if you count #15).

I've also had the (dis)pleasure now of riding both ways in rush hour. Too small.

[CLC]

Originally Posted by whatnext

Is that based on stats, or observation? On mid-day trips I've seen more people getting on at King Ed than Oakridge, which surprised me. King Ed has three bus routes serving it (if you count #15).

I've also had the (dis)pleasure now of riding both ways in rush hour. Too small.

Observation only (I used the word "seems"). If we know the real stats, King Ed probably still higher than Olympic Village. We all know how busy the three downtown stations and Broadway are. Marine Drive has a bus loop. Langara can be crazy, not uncommon to have 50 people waiting at the platform, even when the frequency is 4-minute. Oakridge ridership overall must be ahead of King Ed, particularly in the weekend.

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by SpongeG

you missed the point - what its 2 maybe 3 blocks to the cloeset station?

people walk from denman and davie to burrard no problem to get to the convenience of the train

and the village itself is nothing exciting to the average joe - i go there a lot myself but most people i take don't even know it exists or have ever been there and they have lived in the city for years

ooh a movie a theatre, a starbucks - stellas an overpriced restaurant with mediocre food - yay

To be fair, you can count the amount of movie theatres in Vancouver on 2 hands, so that is a good selling proposition for Cambie Village. As to your other criteria, Kerrisdale, Dunbar and West 10th would fail to meet the grade as well.

A station at 18th should have been do-able, and would have spurred replacement of the largely 1-2 story retail between 15th and 19th with higher density 4-5 story residential over retail. It also might have driven Translink to implement bus service along 16th to Fraser (though they'd have to stabilize/repair 16th where it goes along Tea Swamp!)

I still can't figure out why there would be a future station at 33rd. QE Park is served by 25th and the hospital complex is relatively close.

Final beef about King Ed: why does the eastbound #25 stop east of Cambie, rather than directly across from the station. It would save pedestrians from crossing two streets to get to the station.

[SpongeG]

Kerrisdale, Dunbar and West 10th

they all do fail nothing unique other than escaping the more crowded areas when you just wanna window shop

its not a regional draw at the moment and probably never will be - its great for locals and should remain that way - I think thats why it didn't fare well during the construction nothing really was that unique to draw people to it and the locals and what serves the locals well survived

[BCPhil]

Originally Posted by whatnext

Final beef about King Ed: why does the eastbound #25 stop east of Cambie, rather than directly across from the station. It would save pedestrians from crossing two streets to get to the station.

I think it has to do with Right Turns. If the bus stopped there, people heading East on King Ed turning right to SB Cambie would turn right cutting infront of a parked bus that could start moving.

[officedweller]

Originally Posted by whatnext

I still can't figure out why there would be a future station at 33rd. QE Park is served by 25th and the hospital complex is relatively close.

The St. Vincent Hospital lands are being redeveloped - on 33rd just west of Cambie and the RCMP headquarters is moving to Surrey.


2007 Global Air Photo showing St. Vincent's redevelopment. I think the RCMP is to the left of it south of 33rd? The hospitals are pretty close by.

[Zassk]

The 33rd station would serve the hospitals well - it is basically 1 block to the hospital complex. I wonder how much transit traffic that complex would generate. I doubt anyone is walking uphill from King Ed Station to the hospitals right now.

[twoNeurons]

Originally Posted by whatnext

Final beef about King Ed: why does the eastbound #25 stop east of Cambie, rather than directly across from the station. It would save pedestrians from crossing two streets to get to the station.

I can't remember where I saw it, but I think it has to do with bus stops being more efficient if they're after the intersection.

In this case, though, I agree, it's probably a good idea. It's not without precedent. There is a stop before Lougheed Northbound on Willingdon to serve the station better. The next stop would be the bus loop.

If you email translink, they may move it. Of course, ideally it would be nice if they put in a station entrance on both sides of the intersection.

[CLC]

Originally Posted by BCPhil

I think it has to do with Right Turns. If the bus stopped there, people heading East on King Ed turning right to SB Cambie would turn right cutting infront of a parked bus that could start moving.

However, #49 got a new bus stop right in front of the Langara station , and yes , blocking the right turns. I love it! the time it took to step off the bus and into the northbound train can be as fast as 30 seconds!

[Pennywise604]

I need some advice from the people who ride the Canada Line on a daily occurence. How busy is the Canada Line through Mid-day? When I have to travel from Delta to Vancouver (almost always Mt. Pleasant) I always drive with no exceptions, usually. The thing is now that the Canada Line goes right where I need to go. (Bridgeport - Olympic Village) How busy is the Canada Line in general, since me taking the Canada Line saves me a good 10$ in gas money, and might speed my trip up.
The thing is, I basically hate public transit. The times that I actually have to take it are when it's busy and crammed, and I'm in bad areas also. (Central City, Broadway, Waterfront, Scott Rd.) So it would be tough to convince me, but is the Canada Line well worth it, in terms of speed, efficiency, and crowds?

[deasine]

Originally Posted by Pennywise604

I need some advice from the people who ride the Canada Line on a daily occurence. How busy is the Canada Line through Mid-day? When I have to travel from Delta to Vancouver (almost always Mt. Pleasant) I always drive with no exceptions, usually. The thing is now that the Canada Line goes right where I need to go. (Bridgeport - Olympic Village) How busy is the Canada Line in general, since me taking the Canada Line saves me a good 10$ in gas money, and might speed my trip up.
The thing is, I basically hate public transit. The times that I actually have to take it are when it's busy and crammed, and I'm in bad areas also. (Central City, Broadway, Waterfront, Scott Rd.) So it would be tough to convince me, but is the Canada Line well worth it, in terms of speed, efficiency, and crowds?

It's busy, but you should be able to find a seat during midday periods. Past 3:30, it gets quite a bit busier. Even during rush hours, while the trains are full and there are a few standees, it isn't packed.

[CLC]

Originally Posted by Pennywise604

I need some advice from the people who ride the Canada Line on a daily occurence. How busy is the Canada Line through Mid-day? When I have to travel from Delta to Vancouver (almost always Mt. Pleasant) I always drive with no exceptions, usually. The thing is now that the Canada Line goes right where I need to go. (Bridgeport - Olympic Village) How busy is the Canada Line in general, since me taking the Canada Line saves me a good 10$ in gas money, and might speed my trip up.
The thing is, I basically hate public transit. The times that I actually have to take it are when it's busy and crammed, and I'm in bad areas also. (Central City, Broadway, Waterfront, Scott Rd.) So it would be tough to convince me, but is the Canada Line well worth it, in terms of speed, efficiency, and crowds?

between 10-2 , you are likely to have seat if you broad at Bridgeport (train coming from Richmond or YVR). The Canada Line is extremely efficient comparing with regular bus service. Even if the train is crammed, it's still more comfortable than being crammed on a overcrowded bus.

[nova9]

I don't take it daily but when I do, 100% of the time I take it at 2pm. It's fine. Even if there is no free seat, you have the rest of the rain to stand on.

[BCPhil]

The last few times I've taken the Canada Line midday it's not packed. I board at Bridgeport and always have a seat midday. It's busy, much more than the Millennium Line, as in by the time the train reaches Langara all the seats will be taken, but it is by no means packed, so even if you don't get a seat you'll have plenty of personal space. The cars are very wide with lots of empty spots. I only feel that is is crowded during the rush hour or special events.

[roleypolinde]

Just a small note, I have noticed a LOT more advertising billboards at my two stations (Broadway mostly, I'm usually rushing through Langara so I don't recall there for sure) Looks like a lot of the dead space in the stations will be filled in as they pick up more advertisers for the line.

Throw in some more public art and things should look fairly normal for a metro line

[jsbertram]

Originally Posted by roleypolinde

Just a small note, I have noticed a LOT more advertising billboards at my two stations (Broadway mostly, I'm usually rushing through Langara so I don't recall there for sure) Looks like a lot of the dead space in the stations will be filled in as they pick up more advertisers for the line.

Throw in some more public art and things should look fairly normal for a metro line

Its just a matter of time before they start sticking ads on the ceiling.

[vansky]

good ads boost up the economy, we need a lot more billboards if we want our business enviroment to get going. basically u want ppl to eat, shop and consume more. buy higher end electronics, clothing, and etc. our ads are always either banking, telecommunications, and beer...way too limited

[Yume-sama]

I don't see how that's much different from elsewhere.... banking, telecommunications, and beer (or other such drinks), are the major advertisers in almost every developed Nation, from USA to Japan.

[Yume-sama]

Just wondering, is the Canada Line station actually NEAR Aberdeen Centre? Like, kind of directly connected?

Or, do you have to find it I have never been, but I am planning to go tomorrow.