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Old Posted Nov 9, 2009, 8:04 AM
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If I had to wager a guess as to why the plaza was not completed to design, I'd imagine it was a cost-reduction measure due to the centre being substantially over budget.
Well, that really stinks.
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Old Posted Nov 9, 2009, 8:20 AM
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when did the big globe go in the lobby? I never noticed it before - i saw for the first time the other night - its awesome
And here is a pic I took of it a few nights ago:



You can see how they're dividing up the corridor space into separate rooms, for media use during the Olympics I presume.
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^ very nice! Thanks.

check out this amazing aerial video of the cc and downtown! be sure to click on HD
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when did the big globe go in the lobby? I never noticed it before - i saw for the first time the other night - its awesome
I thought I saw it there on the opening weekend, then a few weeks later I think it was missing. Now it's back? Or am I confused.
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I thought I saw it there on the opening weekend, then a few weeks later I think it was missing. Now it's back? Or am I confused.
It was there temporarily for the opening weekend. Now it is back for the Winter Games? It is good that the whole world will see it when broadcasters for around the world work in the building. Enjoy it for the next few months while it is around. I wish it is a permanent display.
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Old Posted Nov 10, 2009, 4:35 AM
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ah thx for the info - i had never seen it before - its cool

they are building something between the two convention centres - perhaps a broadcasters stage? or something? anyone know what it will be? phone numbers on the quipment used seem tobe from the 414 area code - which belongs to Wisconsin...

anyway some pics I took today





and the sign - thought it was on the fence but its at the door

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That I did not know... Do you have any photos of the original proposal?
Sorry no photos as my camera can not take pics of what doesn't yet exist.

I take it you meant renders, and the answer is still no, but maybe someone here does have them. There was supposed to be small fountain in the middle of the planters, water would then run down the side of the fountain southwest along the plaza and then down the middle of the grand staircase ending in a small pool at the bottom of the stairs. I believe that is still the plan hopefully someone can clarify.
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^I'm glad to hear that is still the plan. I was a bit disappointed when they appeared to fill in the pool at the bottom of the stairs with stonework. I thought it was a pretty cool idea to have it run down the stairs and I was looking forward to seeing it in action.
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An update on whatever it is they are building between the convention centres





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From the Journal of Commerce (seems a bit late, but...):

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November 18, 2009

Creating Vancouver Convention Centre’s green roof no simple task

SAUL CHERNOS

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Working atop a structure built on piles and at sometimes extreme angles made life interesting for the crews working on the Vancouver Convention Centre’s green roof.

The biggest living roof in Canada is surrounded by water on three sides, and the marine deck on which the building sits is supported by stilt-like piles.

It also features slopes of up to 53 per cent.

“There are no flat areas,” said Pete Taylor, a senior project manager with Flynn Canada, who oversaw the roof’s construction.

The idea was to integrate the project visually with the surrounding waterfront parkland and mountain backdrop, so that the entire vista appears as a single, crescent-shaped green-belt.

A host of cutting-edge environmental features, including on-site water treatment, deep seawater cooling and heating, and a giant skirt designed to help restore the local fish habitat have the convention centre seeing LEED Gold certification.

But it is the roof that is most visible and that has attracted the lion’s share of attention.

At 6.5 acres, it eclipses the National War Museum’s 2.6-acre green roof to rank as Canada’s biggest. It could hold 15 professional-size hockey rinks.

With more than 400,000 plants and grasses, featuring close to two dozen species native to the Pacific Northwest, the Vancouver roof is very much its own ecosystem.

It uses computers to detect leaks, and through a series of small channels and pipes, funnels excess rainwater for re-use in the washrooms.

The roof even has its own colony of European honeybees.

Work crews encountered no shortage of challenges in building all of this.

However, water was common to all of them.

First, there was the not-so-small matter of getting materials to the site. Access for heavy vehicles was limited to a single entrance on the one side where there was dry land.

“We were sometimes bringing in three to four dump trucks of growing media a day,” Taylor said.

“This was literally in the heart of the downtown, often in rush-hour traffic, and we had no room to park on-site.”

However, access paled in comparison to the structural issues.

Because much of the addition and roof jut out over the water’s edge like a large pier, crews had to find innovative ways to haul materials, including plants, liners, and more than 5,000 cubic metres of growing media, to the top.

And, with the building supported by piles, anything left on the roof had to be carefully and evenly distributed.

Crews had to use a hammerhead crane to reach the rooftop because the roadway at one end was the lone point of access.

“With a regular stick crane you can get the height, but you can’t get the reach,” Taylor said. “With a hammerhead, you can swing in about 120 feet over the roof.”

Working cranes from the water wasn’t an option.

“You’d have to put the crane on a barge, and the cost of doing that is astronomical,” he said.

As soon as crews got materials onto the roof, they had to immediately move them to specific locations using conveyors and lightweight buggies instead of heavy machinery, such as backhoes and bobcats.

The slopes proved particularly challenging.

Taylor said crews built diverters to protect soil and vegetation from Vancouver’s rainy climate.

Workers also laboured underneath rolling castor-style tents to keep materials dry.

Because of the slopes, some areas needed web-style retention systems, built using high-strength polymer matting and stainless steel cables, to hold the growing media, plants and 43 kilometres of drip irrigation piping in place.

Bruce Hemstock, of PWL Partnership, a Vancouver landscape architecture and consulting firm that worked on the project, said the roof portion of the job was one of the most technically challenging assignments his firm has taken on in its 35 years in the business.

“It was a very complicated project, yet we wanted to use simple and straightforward, off-the-shelf components,” he said.

“It was challenging to figure out how to make it all work.”

PWL needed to ensure the construction team could easily obtain materials such as roof drains rather than having them custom built.

“The whole drainage system on the roof was designed so it could be ordered from any manufacturer in Canada and installed on the roof without anything special happening to it,” Hemstock said.

With the various challenges addressed, project participants can focus on its benefits.

These include the stormwater management, and the lush, green exterior is able to curb the heat-island effect, which is typical with concrete and brick and is often blamed for localized warming.

As well, insulation from plants, waterproofing liner, six inches of growing medium, and four inches of extruded polystyrene increase natural temperature control and reduce the need for mechanical heating and cooling.
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Old Posted Nov 19, 2009, 2:13 AM
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An update on whatever it is they are building between the convention centres
Mostly extra floor space for the Olympics. Those structures can be seen at most venues.
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Old Posted Nov 19, 2009, 2:55 AM
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we know its for the olympics but why why what is it - a mcdonalds? a tv studio? a security zone check point? curiousity is killing the cat here
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Just wondering, how much does it cost to rent the convention centre? Lets say, theoretically, for like 5-days and 20 of its smaller rooms (between 20-200 capacity).

Anyone have experience with that?
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we know its for the olympics but why why what is it - a mcdonalds? a tv studio? a security zone check point? curiousity is killing the cat here
It would make an awesome TV studio. But CTV and NBC are elsewhere, yes?

Will NBC be broadcasting exclusively from Grouse Mountain? What's my chances of meeting Al Roker?!
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the Today show will be at Grouse Mountain

NBC will be elsewhere for its news and sports centre etc
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Vancouver’s new convention centre: “Better than we expected.”

http://www.francesbula.com/developer-wor...centre-better-than-we-expected/#comments

^^^ some interesting discussion check it out
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Old Posted Nov 27, 2009, 5:20 AM
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Thanks for posting that. The Canadian Architect article is a good read with some interesting pics.
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Old Posted Nov 27, 2009, 8:24 PM
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ongoing construction in the middle of the plaza


do you really need to say it's an 'icon'? those sorts of things aren't usually spelled out. kinda tacky imo

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Ooh, I love that new(?) Canada Place logo.. but the camera on top of the sign looks silly. Is it saying that the camera or the sails are a Canadian icon?
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