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Old Posted Nov 26, 2009, 12:09 AM
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Gateway Arch TO River Landing

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I think its supposed to be a "gateway" to downtown idea, so that would explain why the arches face the way they do.
Nope, according to the city press release:

"A new decorative arch was unveiled recently at River Landing. Located on the west side of 2nd Avenue, just south of the 19th Street intersection, the new arch welcomes pedestrians to River Landing."
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 26, 2009, 2:09 AM
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Here's an H&M I walked past yesterday in Uppsala, Sweden... lol they're everywhere in Europe.

I really don't get what the big deal about this store is, as far as I can tell its just another chain... If there's something that Saskatoon lacks... it's UNIQUE stores with high quality clothing not something that can be found literally EVERYWHERE!
The reason H & M is such a big deal is b/c it is VERY affordable clothing and has tons of style. We do not have the clientele for Versace or even Diesel. As well it would be a LOT easier on the eyes to see people wearing H & M rather then Randy River. You have to agree with me on that.
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Old Posted Nov 26, 2009, 4:12 PM
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Major cities drive growth in province
Saskatoon, Regina must boost attractiveness to youth: economist

By Bruce Johnstone, Saskatchewan News Network; Regina Leader-Post
November 26, 2009 8:27 AM


Saskatchewan's two major cities are too small to have self-sustaining economies, but they can still be "engines of growth," says University of Saskatchewan economist Rose Olfert.

Olfert was the keynote speaker at the National Housing Day luncheon Wednesday, hosted by Canada Mortgage and Housing Corp., Saskatchewan Housing Corp. and the City of Regina.

Compared with Canada as a whole, Saskatchewan is less urbanized, with 44 per cent of the population living in cities of 100,000 or more, compared with 81 per cent of the Canadian population, based on 2006 census data.

"Saskatchewan is still a rural province," Olfert said. But the trend toward urbanization is gaining momentum in the province, thanks to increased in-migration, the growing aboriginal population and other demographic factors.

Neither Saskatoon nor Regina have the "critical mass" of 500,000 people that economists view as economically "self-sustaining," Olfert said. But the two cities boast many of the advantages of larger cities, without some of the disadvantages.

For example, both cities have larger immigrant populations, higher education and employment rates, higher average incomes and younger populations than the province as a whole. Both cities act as service, employment and market centres for their surrounding areas, while rural areas provide labour, land and consumers for the urban areas.

But Olfert noted today's labour force is less concerned with employment opportunities than quality of life issues.

"Increasingly, young people go where they want to live," Olfert said. "That's a challenge for cities and the development of their infrastructure, including housing."

Following her speech, Olfert said both cities need to make themselves attractive to young people.

"This current generation seems to be making choices (on where to live) on a quality of life basis. It's not just the job. They look very carefully at whether the cities have the characteristics that they value."

Smaller cities, such as Saskatoon and Regina, need to make their downtowns more attractive places to live and improve their transit systems, cultural amenities and recreational facilities to appeal to younger workers.

"There's a long list of things we don't have. We don't have, by any measure, very attractive climates. We don't have the highest end of everything. It makes it all the more important to make the best of what we have."

"Moderately sized cities, with good personal contacts, quality life and safe streets and less congestion -- those are things we're going to have to capitalize on. We won't appeal to everybody, but we will appeal to those for whom those things are important."

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Old Posted Nov 26, 2009, 4:19 PM
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FINTRAC? Where the heck is Lobsinger getting his money from? Actually, we know, it's from Cyprus, a well-known money laundering center for organized crime, from a mysterious bank that no one else has ever heard ever. Can we just move on from this fiasco?

Speaking of stores, The Cupcake Conspiracy (that was mentioned here previously) is now open in the KG building. If we have a wishlist for stores to come here, being the boring white-collar guy I am, I would love to see a Banana Republic here. We have to be getting somewhat close to the desired demographic at this point with all the oil money rolling in.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 27, 2009, 12:40 AM
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Cupcakes, Indian, Arches and Shopping

That is very exciting the cupcake place is open! Stores like this really make a shopping experience unique. The Indian place beside the cupcake place looks to be almost ready to open, the kitchen has windows open to the street which is pretty cool! Maybe we can all watch how to make certain dishes and try them at home .

Well I think the city really screwed up if they are supposed to be welcoming people to riverlanding *sigh*. As for shopping, REALLY SAskatoon needs everything from boring old Banana Republic to Zara to H & M to MUCH MUCH MORE! The day we get a Holt will be the day we can welcome ourselves into the elite shopping category!
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FINTRAC? Where the heck is Lobsinger getting his money from?

Hope that wasnt a serious question, because FINTRAC ( Financial Transactions Reports Analysis Centre of Canada ) is a well known organization in the finance world.
     
     
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Toward Sustainable Communities - December 3, 2009

Hey everyone, this e-mail was forwarded to me and thought I would share it with everyone....Sounds interesting.


Toward Sustainable Communities

A lecture and conversation with Mark Roseland, Ph.D., MCIP



Thursday, December 3, 2009

9:00 am – 12 p.m.

Saskatoon Inn

2002 Airport Drive



Mark Roseland, Ph.D., MCIP, is Director of the Centre for Sustainable Community Development at Simon Fraser University and Professor in SFU's Department of Geography.



Dr. Roseland will be presenting key concepts from his book “Toward Sustainable Communities: Resources for Citizens and Their Governments,” which focuses on practical resources for citizens and their governments. Dr. Roseland has published widely, and his work has been cited in numerous journals. Over 12,000 copies of his book were first distributed internationally by the Government of Canada's National Round Table on the Environment and the Economy; a revised and updated third edition of this landmark book was published by New Society Publishers in 2005. Dr. Roseland has been awarded over two dozen funded research projects from a wide range of sources. In addition to his research contributions, Dr. Roseland’s teaching also has a direct impact on sustainable community development through his focus on research topics for his students that address current planning and development initiatives.



Following Dr. Roseland’s presentation, there will be a panel discussion and facilitated audience Q & A with Ryan Walker (U of S professor of Urban Planning), Councillor Charlie Clark, Charles Olfert (architect), and Gord Androsoff (Roadmap 20/20).









Price - $55.00 for Adults

$35.00 for Students (Student ID required)



Tickets available at www.Picatic.com/ticket/MarkRoseland



Please forward this email to any interested friends, colleagues, and related email lists.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 27, 2009, 2:55 PM
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Gallery plan to council

River Landing destination centre approval sought

By David Hutton, The StarPhoenixNovember 27, 2009 7:33 AMBe the first to post a comment

The much-discussed $58-million destination centre at River Landing will face its first formal political hurdle Monday when city council will be asked to approve the framework for what will be included in the 85,000-square-foot building.

The centre is slated to include the Art Gallery of Saskatchewan, an atrium, gift shop, adaptable community studio, restaurant and lecture theatre, and potentially an expanded Persephone Theatre, says the city report to be considered by council.

The report is the first time political approval has been sought for the move of the Mendel Art Gallery to River Landing and is considered the final proposal of what will be included in the anchor destination centre building before the design process begins.

"What we're really looking for is a really functional building, first and foremost," said Sandi Schultz, the city's special projects manager, "but certainly this is going to be a signature building and a major attraction."

A 165-seat Imax theatre, a sports or music hall of fame, a sky-scraping 45-storey viewing tower, a University of Saskatchewan gift shop and the children's discovery museum were among the ideas pitched to the destination centre's steering committee before being trumped by the art gallery concept, the report says.

The nine-member committee's mandate included engaging the public through open houses and online questionnaires before choosing a final concept, but the process was put aside when funding for the new art gallery became available, Schultz said.

"The process had to be adapted as funding became very significant and there was an opportunity to get funding for the destination centre," Schultz said.

Mendel Art Gallery board chair Art Knight stepped down from the committee due to a conflict of interest when the gallery move was discussed, as did representatives from Persephone Theatre, she said.

The city report also seeks approval for a 2,000-square-foot expansion to the Persephone's black box theatre to increase the seating capacity to 140 from 100.

The idea of the site is to "nurture creativity" and connect performing and visual art in a creative centre in the city, the report says.

City administration is also looking to hire Lundholm Associates, a prominent architectural firm that designed the national war museum in Ottawa, at a cost of $150,000 to prepare some basic plans for how the site will function and be laid out.

There are plans to engage the public on what to include in the community studio and after the functional design of the building is decided, she said.

Built adjacent to Persephone Theatre, the building would be about 85,000 square feet, scaled down from what was originally thought to be a 120,000-square-foot space, Schultz said.

It is slated to include 60,000 square feet of space for the art gallery, which would allow the gallery to display much of its permanent collection, she said.

The gallery would also be able to significantly increase its outreach and public education programs for schools and come up with a permanent home for the 13 paintings by the Group of Seven and their contemporaries from Fred Mendel's private collection, Knight said.

The move of the gallery has come under fire from those critical of the lack of public consultation, the expense of the project and the removal of Fred Mendel's name, but Knight said he's confident more public engagement and a significant recognition of Mendel will help ease those concerns in time.

"I understand people's anxiety but there was an opportunity to move and secure the plans and there will be an opportunity for public input," he said. "In 2014, the projected completion date, when we have the ribbon cutting, I think those folks that are concerned will be very pleased with the final outcome."

Knight will announce a chair for the gallery's $8-million fundraising campaign at the Monday meeting.

The provincial government is contributing $17 million in total to the project, including $4 million initially slated for the expansion of the Mendel gallery, and the federal government will contribute $13 million.

The city will borrow $12.9 million over 10 years starting in 2011 toward the destination centre and build a $7-million parkade, Schultz said.

A business plan for the gallery will look at whether to charge admission, Knight said.

A preliminary look at other galleries has shown only five per cent of revenue is generated from admission fees, with more coming from restaurants, gift shops and other areas, he said.

"The possibility of an admission fee will be developed in that context," Knight said.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 27, 2009, 5:16 PM
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FINTRAC? Where the heck is Lobsinger getting his money from? Actually, we know, it's from Cyprus, a well-known money laundering center for organized crime, from a mysterious bank that no one else has ever heard ever. Can we just move on from this fiasco?

Nope, can't, I love the potential of the project too much. I also don't really regard it as a fiasco. I think that LP is trying to finance a $200M project in a post-"global financial crisis" world. Everybody is complaining that credit is harder to get now, which I'm sure is blowing lots of deadlines around the world. FINTRAC is a Canadian agency that should hopefully address any international money laundering schemes you're worried about. FINTRAC's website has online reports of money laundering and terrorist activity investigations, and although Argentina, Guinea, Indonesia and India are mentioned, Cyprus isn't.

And although I blinked widely and slowly upon first hearing that the creditor for this project is from Cyprus, that doesn't necessarily mean any bad origins. Lots of international businesses (and more all the time) are establishing presences in Cyprus. The more I read up on Cyprus, it sounds like they're a country that's really tried to clean up their act to join the EU, which they've been a member of since 2004. In fact, Cyprus ranked 26th out of 180 countries in the 2009 "perceived corruption index", ahead of places like Israel and Spain, which do their share of international financing.

http://www.transparency.org/policy_research/surveys_indices/cpi/2009/cpi_2009_table

Wading through Google results of searches like "cyprus organized crime", "cyprus corruption", "cyprus money laundering" (without the quotes) seems to provide results that are quite encouraging, both from personal and professional perspectives.

Sheesh, I should work at their tourism ministry....

And it sounds like several international regulators have approved the financing.... but for that one pesky signature. (still holding breath)
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 27, 2009, 5:31 PM
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The centre is slated to include the Art Gallery of Saskatchewan, an atrium, gift shop, adaptable community studio, restaurant and lecture theatre, and potentially an expanded Persephone Theatre, says the city report to be considered by council.
So long as it covers up that expanse of grey wall that faces the freeway bridge.

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A 165-seat Imax theatre, a sports or music hall of fame, a sky-scraping 45-storey viewing tower, a University of Saskatchewan gift shop and the children's discovery museum were among the ideas pitched to the destination centre's steering committee before being trumped by the art gallery concept, the report says.
165 seat IMAX? That's petite. That's 8 rows of 20 seats..... if the total size of the building is being scaled down, couldn't an IMAX of that size be included? IMAX tend not to be Vin Diesel or Will Smith action flicks, but something more resembling art or education. With live theatre next door at Persephone, traditional art and installations in a gallery, and IMAX with art films or documentaries, it'd be a powerhouse of artistic expression and education! And some architectural beauty right next door at RLV.

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The nine-member committee's mandate included engaging the public through open houses and online questionnaires before choosing a final concept, but the process was put aside when funding for the new art gallery became available, Schultz said.
Hahaaaa! Money talks loud eh? I guess it shouldn't be surprising that vision + financing > public consultation.
     
     
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This is fantastic news about the AGofS; atrium, gallery, restaurant, gift store and the list goes on! I think it would be really interesting to see if they could squeeze in the IMAX along with all of this AND still have the sky ride thing. It would definitely be a tourism spot for the downtown. THEN the city could focus on the north and build something equally as impressive and my god I think we would have a real swank d/t! I'm also pretty impressed the city is looking at using the same architects that designed the Canadian War Museum. It is an interesting building...although I was hoping for Frank Gehry, but you can't win them all. Here is hoping to a much needed cultural boost to Saskatoon !!!!!!!!!!!!
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For the love of God, please cover up the atrocious gray wall on Persephone! Pleeeaaaase!
     
     
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Hope that wasnt a serious question, because FINTRAC ( Financial Transactions Reports Analysis Centre of Canada ) is a well known organization in the finance world.
Maybe you should read my post again.
     
     
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I'm also pretty impressed the city is looking at using the same architects that designed the Canadian War Museum. It is an interesting building...although I was hoping for Frank Gehry, but you can't win them all. Here is hoping to a much needed cultural boost to Saskatoon !!!!!!!!!!!!
Speaking of those architects, which I believe is Moriyama and Teshima. Were they not the ones designed the new Meewasin Valley Interpretive Centre? And does anyone know what ever happened to that project?
     
     
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Nope, can't, I love the potential of the project too much. I also don't really regard it as a fiasco. I think that LP is trying to finance a $200M project in a post-"global financial crisis" world. Everybody is complaining that credit is harder to get now, which I'm sure is blowing lots of deadlines around the world. FINTRAC is a Canadian agency that should hopefully address any international money laundering schemes you're worried about. FINTRAC's website has online reports of money laundering and terrorist activity investigations, and although Argentina, Guinea, Indonesia and India are mentioned, Cyprus isn't.

And although I blinked widely and slowly upon first hearing that the creditor for this project is from Cyprus, that doesn't necessarily mean any bad origins. Lots of international businesses (and more all the time) are establishing presences in Cyprus. The more I read up on Cyprus, it sounds like they're a country that's really tried to clean up their act to join the EU, which they've been a member of since 2004. In fact, Cyprus ranked 26th out of 180 countries in the 2009 "perceived corruption index", ahead of places like Israel and Spain, which do their share of international financing.

http://www.transparency.org/policy_research/surveys_indices/cpi/2009/cpi_2009_table

Wading through Google results of searches like "cyprus organized crime", "cyprus corruption", "cyprus money laundering" (without the quotes) seems to provide results that are quite encouraging, both from personal and professional perspectives.

Sheesh, I should work at their tourism ministry....

And it sounds like several international regulators have approved the financing.... but for that one pesky signature. (still holding breath)
Geez some Saskatoon forum members still trying to breath life into the dead horse called the River Landing Village! Let it RIP Lake Placid is toast.
     
     
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Speaking of those architects, which I believe is Moriyama and Teshima. Were they not the ones designed the new Meewasin Valley Interpretive Centre? And does anyone know what ever happened to that project?
I believe you're correct. As far as I know, the project is on hold until they sort out the Art Gallery idea. Last I heard, Meewasin was thinking of moving into the Mendel if the AGofS is built.
     
     
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I believe you're correct. As far as I know, the project is on hold until they sort out the Art Gallery idea. Last I heard, Meewasin was thinking of moving into the Mendel if the AGofS is built.
I think the Mendel is the perfect spot for the MVA. Somewhat secluded, a little bit more involved with the river and area and MUCH MORE SPACE. Plus its a great mod building that could be easily adapted into their center. With all of these great ideas coming along I hope the city doesn't forget about an Aboriginal holding house. I think this would really express their culture beautifully as well it would be a unique feature that not many cities have.
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Geez some Saskatoon forum members still trying to breath life into the dead horse called the River Landing Village! Let it RIP Lake Placid is toast.
Okay, rrskylar, you've already stated that several times now. We are all perfectly familiar with your views on LP. If other people want to remain positive about this project, what does it matter to you? Keep your useless comments in the Winnipeg thread.
     
     
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Okay, rrskylar, you've already stated that several times now. We are all perfectly familiar with your views on LP. If other people want to remain positive about this project, what does it matter to you? Keep your useless comments in the Winnipeg thread.
Thank you for that dsim
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Okay, rrskylar, you've already stated that several times now. We are all perfectly familiar with your views on LP. If other people want to remain positive about this project, what does it matter to you? Keep your useless comments in the Winnipeg thread.
Sorry to dash your delusional hopes, but don't believe a company whose two signature projects are a water filled hole in the ground in Calgary and a project to be built on river front property they don't even own.
     
     
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