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Old Posted Sep 30, 2009, 1:17 PM
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^ Kasim would probably have the best handle on getting state money for it, although Lisa would probably be better at getting private money for it. Kasim did mention trying to get that law passed that would allow counties to partner to raise tax funds, and suggested that Fulton and DeKalb team up to use it to fund the Beltline. I'm not sure I follow that, as the Beltline is entirely within Fulton county. Lisa also had an idea to give incentives to house police officers, teachers, etc in affordable housing that will be constructed along the beltline.

Mary specifically said it would be a mistake to build the northeast line first, even though it's currently the only viable part in terms of existing density. She said if we build that portion first, the rest of it would never get built. I don't really follow her logic. We have to start somewhere.
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http://www.atlantaunfiltered.com/2009/09/25/advisors-beltline-leaders-leaving-us-out-of-the-loop/

Advisors: BeltLine leaders leaving us out of the loop
September 25, 2009 --
Atlanta’s BeltLine redevelopment project may be about to short an affordable housing fund by more than $9 million, a citizen oversight group says.

And, members of the citizen advisory committee contend, the BeltLine leadership isn’t sharing information early or often enough for them to know how well the $2.8 billion endeavor is proceeding.

At issue: The non-profit Atlanta BeltLine Inc. (ABI) plans to sell up to $165 million in bonds soon to pay off 2008 bonds, buy land and pursue other projects. City ordinance specifies that 15 percent of all bond proceeds should be set aside for affordable housing, but the BeltLine’s lawyers say that doesn’t apply to the $64 million needed to pay off last year’s bonds. The citizens’ group says the law doesn’t give the BeltLine the leeway to make that call.

If the BeltLine board’s view prevails, affordable housing would get about $9.5 million less from the upcoming bond sale.

The BeltLine’s 2009 bond plan also excludes a $1 million set-aside for public art and earmarks $3.3 million for small business economic incentives — but only if it is “available.” City ordinance requires funding for both programs from each BeltLine bond issue.

The BeltLine envisions development of parks, trails, transit and private projects along a 22-mile network of rail lines encircling the city’s center. City Council created the Tax Allocation District Advisory Committee (TADAC) to keep tabs on BeltLine activity and let the project’s leadership and the City Council know if they’re doing a good job.

TADAC members say they’re not getting enough information to make those judgments. The committee unanimously asked the City Council this month to step in and let it know how much stuff they’re entitled to know. Chairman Eugene Bowens’ cover letter put it this way:

“While we acknowledge improved cooperation and responsiveness from ABI in providing needed information to TADAC, the timeliness and completeness of such information continue to be a major concern. Truly effective community engagement and participation in the BeltLine will not be realized in the absence of full cooperation, transparency and the TADAC’s (i.e., the community’s) access to complete, accurate, and timely information.”

The BeltLine leadership gives TADAC access to information on publicly-funded projects, but nothing on plans that might be funded by foundations, non-profits or other sources. Private sources are envisioned for about $1.1 billion of the BeltLine’s projects.

As it stands, the BeltLine informs the advisory group how it plans to spend its money but not how those decisions are made. The citizens’ group wants to be at the table so it can observe when and how those decisions are made. In its letter to Council, the committee said:

“TADAC has repeatedly requested to be involved early in the process of ABI’s efforts to develop proposed uses of bond proceeds. What we have been provided is a list of proposed uses, without any explanation of what other proposed uses were rejected or intentionally delayed in deference to the proposed uses. … While the proposed uses may be sensible and many might support them, it is impossible to know if these are the best uses for the proposed bonds without consideration of what other options existed and how the trade-offs were made.”

For instance, the committee said, it’s not clear how much money the BeltLine is earmarking to advance transit portions of the project:

“Absent vibrant transit, the BeltLine will be a string of parks and trails but will not satisfy the vision of transit
connecting Atlanta’s neighborhoods and contributing to solving the region’s transportation problems.”

MARTA General Manager Beverly acknowledged last week that funding for BeltLine transit is not going to come from her agency, which is negotiating to oversee the transit portion of the BeltLine. MARTA, she said, has no cash to expand its rail lines.

“Unless there is new funding … we cannot afford one expansion project,” Scott told the Legislature’s MARTA Oversight Committee. “There is absolutely no expansion built into this program.”

Sen. Vincent Fort pointed out that a BeltLine without new transit would be a bit of a shock to Atlantans:

“That’s not how it’s been marketed.”
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now that work has started, here's an updated ABI video on 4th ward park.

nice CAD fly throughs mashed up with older b-roll footage.

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Awesome video!
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Loved that video....gave me chills....I am so excited to be an Atlantan.
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October 4, 2009: a conversation with Ryan Gravel, author of the original thesis that spawned the BeltLine project and Cathy Woolard, former Atlanta City Council President and also a champion of the BeltLine project.

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1.4-mi SW Atlanta BeltLine Trail Gets Green Light

http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/freshlo...atlanta-beltline-trail-gets-green-light/

On Oct. 14, Westview and West End residents received good news about the long-overlooked L&N railroad tracks in Southwest Atlanta: the Georgia Department of Transportation finally voted to allow the PATH Foundation to move ahead with a proposed Beltline jogging and biking trail.

For more than a year, Patrick Berry and other neighborhood residents waited for glimmers of progress on the abandoned tracks.

Unfortunately, all they saw were dumped mattresses, shopping carts, and blankets of kudzu piling up.

“When people came to the neighborhood, they’d see garbage and overgrowth,” Berry, vice president of the Westview Community Organization, says. “It gives the impression that nobody cares.”

Beltline officials say they’ve inked a deal with Trees Atlanta to begin a five-year kudzu removal process. Ed McBrayer of the PATH Foundation, which will oversee construction of the the trail, says he plans to meet with GDOT officials this week to discuss the project.

Once completed, the 1.4-mile trail will connect with the West End trail along White Street.
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i recently took a hike along the northeast beltline segment and documented the trip. enjoy the pics.

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=175710

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damn, wonderful set of photos atl2phx! i'm sure you'd get quite a good response if you posted these over in city photos... plus i'd love to see more myself

thanks for sharing nonetheless.
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Old Posted Nov 16, 2009, 4:14 AM
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Cool photos - thanks for sharing. I was snooping around the Historic Fourth Ward Park area this weekend as well. Didn't have my camera but the pond construction is chugging along.

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thnx for the compliments cabasse and smartalone.

the beltline is gonna be outta hand when it gets goin......i'm not sure people get the extent of it's potential impact.
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thnx for the compliments cabasse and smartalone.

the beltline is gonna be outta hand when it gets goin......i'm not sure people get the extent of it's potential impact.
it won't have much impact in the NE is the NIMBY crowd gets their way.
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Old Posted Nov 16, 2009, 3:47 PM
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it won't have much impact in the NE is the NIMBY crowd gets their way.
the NIMBY's are vocal but they are not the end all, nor are they the approving authority.

at the end of the day, the city would like their approval, but it's not required.
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Very nice, atl2phx! I especially like that steel bridge next to Sears. My old Grandpa used to work for American Bridge. They knew how to bridge across anything.

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Cool photos - thanks for sharing. I was snooping around the Historic Fourth Ward Park area this weekend as well. Didn't have my camera but the pond construction is chugging along.
Yeah! I checked it out today, thanks for the heads up. All the buildings and cement in the phase I area (5 acres) are cleared, soil is remediated and pond and amphitheater are roughed out. I took some pictures from the end of Dallas Street but they don't capture it at all. They're expecting 425 gallons a minute from the uncorked spring.

Here's a good PDF explaining the phases.

Phase I


Here's the best shot I came up with

They are supposed to save the two large oak trees on the left. It's amazing how many different ways there are to approach this park..... and none of them gave me a good photo angle!
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Nice pic. It shows that it will be a good sized park although it will be rather linear until they are able to complete phase 3. I really hope Georgia Power doesn't hang on to that land for "several more years".



BeltLine hiking trails coming in March

By Collin Kelley, Atlanta INtown

I was sitting in my office at the Atlanta INtown office in Inman Park when I heard a strange noise coming from outside our backdoor. INtown’s offices are at Inman Alley, which, literally, backs up to the future BeltLine. The noise sounded like a train coming down the tracks, so I jumped up and ran outside to see some kind of machinery and a team of men coming down the track pulling up the old rail lines. I grabbed the camera and snapped a couple of photos as the machine pulled up the tracks and the crew removed the wooden ties underneath. What were they doing?

A call to the Atlanta BeltLine offices provided exciting information. Crews are working in the Northeast and Southwest quadrants of the 22-mile BeltLine loop around the city to create the first hiking trails. The old rails and ties will be removed, graded and replaced with mulch to provide a walking surface. This part of the project is expected to be completed and open to the public in March.

The Northeast hiking trail will extend from DeKalb Avenue to 10th Street at Monroe Drive. The portion through Piedmont will be completed once renovations and expansion to the park itself are completed. The Southwest portion will run between Washington Park and Ralph David Abernathy Boulevard.

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do they have the resources to police that thing in Phase I?

i love the whole park but Phase I is going to be kinda disconnected from a lot of "life".

is that an apartment complex (white bldg) in your pic?
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Nice pic. It shows that it will be a good sized park although it will be rather linear until they are able to complete phase 3. I really hope Georgia Power doesn't hang on to that land for "several more years".



BeltLine hiking trails coming in March

By Collin Kelley, Atlanta INtown

I was sitting in my office at the Atlanta INtown office in Inman Park when I heard a strange noise coming from outside our backdoor. INtown’s offices are at Inman Alley, which, literally, backs up to the future BeltLine. The noise sounded like a train coming down the tracks, so I jumped up and ran outside to see some kind of machinery and a team of men coming down the track pulling up the old rail lines. I grabbed the camera and snapped a couple of photos as the machine pulled up the tracks and the crew removed the wooden ties underneath. What were they doing?

A call to the Atlanta BeltLine offices provided exciting information. Crews are working in the Northeast and Southwest quadrants of the 22-mile BeltLine loop around the city to create the first hiking trails. The old rails and ties will be removed, graded and replaced with mulch to provide a walking surface. This part of the project is expected to be completed and open to the public in March.

The Northeast hiking trail will extend from DeKalb Avenue to 10th Street at Monroe Drive. The portion through Piedmont will be completed once renovations and expansion to the park itself are completed. The Southwest portion will run between Washington Park and Ralph David Abernathy Boulevard.
I'm so excited about this - it's really all I need at this point. How great it will be to hop on the bike and get to Piedmont Park without dealing with Atlanta drivers! Transit's going to be great too, but I think this is going to get plenty of action as a trail also.
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do they have the resources to police that thing in Phase I?

i love the whole park but Phase I is going to be kinda disconnected from a lot of "life".

is that an apartment complex (white bldg) in your pic?
Yeah, it's huge and is quite bustling. There are two more new complexes, one along Ralph McGill is still under construction and the other looked to be pretty fully leased. There is some serious population density between Glen Iris and the park so I think there will be plenty of eyeballs.
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Yeah, it's huge and is quite bustling. There are two more new complexes, one along Ralph McGill is still under construction and the other looked to be pretty fully leased. There is some serious population density between Glen Iris and the park so I think there will be plenty of eyeballs.
thanks for the info. it looks kinda foreboding that way when you drive by on North but I guess that's the wrong angle.

it will really be great when it connects to the Beltline to Piedmont Park and also (presumably?) to Freedom Park.
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