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  #1961  
Old Posted Nov 8, 2009, 7:58 PM
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Arrow YVR: holding its own . . . . just . . . .

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One thing Seattle has that YVR doesn't have is a major is a major airline's hub ( Alaska 6th - 8th largest in the U.S)

Will AC keep it's YVR Sydney flight if the get YYZ to sydney. The current flight starts & Terminates in T0. A 777 can fly nonstop YYZ to Sydney

I wonder if there are any taxes that Victoria could reduce to make YVR a more appealing destination especially for low cost carriers.

As far as expansion goes the long term planning process must continue, but at this point we are running at 100% all afternoon for example.As of Jan 15 Westjet will start flying 4 times weekly to Lax & 3 times Weekly to Phx from yvr
I read somewhere (Wikipedia, as I recall) that the Australian airline Jetstar will start a YVR - Sydney nonstop once it purchases its 787s. (won't that be nice)?

As far as Westjet flying 4x a week to LA and 3x a week to PDX, this is not an excessively heavy volume, and I think the airpport can accomodate it with no trouble. Three times PER DAY would be another story ! !

Also, it's a winter seasonal thing, so there should be little problem from the USA terminal
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 8, 2009, 10:31 PM
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To me the most logical West Coast destination for Wes Jet from YVR is The Bay area (SFO).

Does Alaska have the right of first refusal on the slots that it gave up a year or so ago, or if say West Jet applies to the authorities can they take those slots .

Seeing as YVR is the only major airport that has a major competing U.S. airport 120 miles away, the Federal goverment needs to do something legislatively to to allow us to become more competitive.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 8, 2009, 11:09 PM
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i thought SAS dropped its Copenhagen service from Seattle?
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 9, 2009, 12:04 AM
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Old Posted Nov 9, 2009, 12:32 AM
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Glad to see that the site being changed in time for the Olympics. They were supposed to have it done way earlier but obviously, they didn't release it.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 9, 2009, 7:59 AM
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i thought SAS dropped its Copenhagen service from Seattle?
It is being replaced. By Delta, I think.

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Old Posted Nov 9, 2009, 8:13 AM
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To me the most logical West Coast destination for Wes Jet from YVR is The Bay area (SFO).

Does Alaska have the right of first refusal on the slots that it gave up a year or so ago, or if say West Jet applies to the authorities can they take those slots .

Seeing as YVR is the only major airport that has a major competing U.S. airport 120 miles away, the Federal goverment needs to do something legislatively to to allow us to become more competitive.
Hah! Go tell that to the feds. They could care less. Now if it were Toronto ... it WOULD be another story.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 9, 2009, 9:09 AM
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It is a shame that the Osaka route was eliminated and no other airline has picked it up yet, but think I read somewhere ANA wants to do the KIX-YVR route but is waiting for? yes - the 787. I suspect many other routes will become available once that airplane comes online.
Now THAT would be AWESOME! I'd LOVE to fly ANA to Osaka on ANA metal... and ANA is the first to get the 787...

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Old Posted Nov 11, 2009, 4:03 PM
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I want my KIX

I've been following the discusssion concerning air service from YVR to Japan/Asia with some interest. I appreciate everyone's contributions keeping this topic up-to-date. I flew to Japan for the very first time recently, about one year after AC canned the direct Osaka route. The flight attendants went through the cabin asking each passenger if they were terminating at Narita or continuing onwards and to where. Guess what the most popular answer was? Continuing on to the Kansai region. Now, I know the front half of an economy cabin section to Tokyo does not represent the majority of travellers to Japan, but even I was surprised by how many folks were heading to Western Japan.

After a 10 1/2 hour flight, I took a night bus to Kyoto. Fun, fun, fun.
I took the Nozomi to Tokyo station on the way back (what a train). Still a big pain, and an extra expense. Was Kyoto worth it? Absolutely. Would I desert AC for any airline offering a non-stop to KIX from YVR? In a heartbeat.

Anyone have an update on non-stop service to Osaka "during the Olympics", or is that another pipe dream?
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 11, 2009, 6:22 PM
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I would guess that a good percentage of the flyers on the AC jet may be headed to the Kansai region, because the flight is a codeshare with ANA.

Thus, people could have booked this flight on the ANA website, or through ANA.

Obviously if they did this they could catch a connecting ANA flight from Narita or Haneda to Osaka.

Which could be why they canceled the route altogether, it's better to give up a landing spot at KIX than NRT, which is booked 24 hours a day!
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 11, 2009, 11:38 PM
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Help please...

Sorry to go off topic, but how can I stop parts of my post from being underlined and turning into random links? Very annoying!
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 11, 2009, 11:44 PM
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Oops, I think I just found out for myself...

Yume-sama, I'm sure you are right - Narita is the most desireable place to land in Japan, no doubt. JAL also offers a YVR-NRT-KIX option which is well-priced and timed, I just hate short plane rides on smaller jets (I get super sick, for some reason).

Anyways, I think I have a serious addiction for Japan (esp. Kansai) after my first trip, which probably explains my need to get there faster, faster....
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 11, 2009, 11:51 PM
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Kansai area is nice, but I can barely understand their dialect. It is much different from Tokyo.

And it is funny how they do everything the opposite, on purpose, of Tokyo. Such as standing on the left instead or right...

And in Kyoto there are no rules, because it is an even mix of people from Kansai and Tokyo, so nobody knows what to do.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 12, 2009, 12:52 AM
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Yume-sama: You're so right. There seems to be this charming anarchy to Kyoto. Bikes are a great example - is that person heading towards me gonna lean right or left? Usually left, but you never know until the last second. And notice how there are a million signs saying "bicycles forbidden" with just as many bikes parked under them? Kyoto people are supposed to be snobs, but I found them to be charming and friendly. Maybe I'm a snob, too! Can't wait to depart from YVR this coming Feb. to visit again (lame attempt make this post have ST to do with discussing YVR).
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 12, 2009, 12:55 PM
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Exclamation Something to keep in mind.......

While you are all discussing destinations in Japan (and it is a fascinating country, I must say) please dont forget this. Click on the link, and you'll get the perspective. Thank you.

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Old Posted Nov 12, 2009, 6:16 PM
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The new yvr.ca is up & running & it's pretty good
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 13, 2009, 7:25 AM
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yah it is much, much better than the old site! much mire professional and current look and features.

Air canada is introducing some mainline jet service to Victoria, Kelowna, and Whitehorse this winter (used to be only operated by Jazz). there is surprisingly a lot of demand for some of these regional destinations.. Kelowna is getting 4x daily Westjet this winter, and AC is doing 2x daily mainline jet service, and 4x daily on Jazz.. pretty decent growth on this route!
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 15, 2009, 8:49 AM
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Seattle is not the only airport that is competing with YVR.
Bellingham is also a major player.
A roundtrip flight from YVR to Las Vegas is generally 300-500 dollars.
but if one was to drive (just ~45 minutes away from downtown Vancouver) to bellingham, you can fly to Vegas round trip for ~ 150-300 dollars.

Other cities served in bellingham are LA, San Diego, Phoenix, San Fran and palm springs.

As a Canadian, i would like to use Canadian airlines and fly from Canadian airports, but unless the Government does something about its "US Transportation tax" I'm gonna how to take my business elsewhere.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 15, 2009, 2:53 PM
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Arrow Damn the Feds

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Seattle is not the only airport that is competing with YVR.
Bellingham is also a major player.
A roundtrip flight from YVR to Las Vegas is generally 300-500 dollars.
but if one was to drive (just ~45 minutes away from downtown Vancouver) to bellingham, you can fly to Vegas round trip for ~ 150-300 dollars.

Other cities served in bellingham are LA, San Diego, Phoenix, San Fran and palm springs.

As a Canadian, i would like to use Canadian airlines and fly from Canadian airports, but unless the Government does something about its "US Transportation tax" I'm gonna how to take my business elsewhere.
Can't blame you, either!! The enraging thing that, as this is Vancouver and not Toronto or Montreal, the federal government doesn't really care a whole lot; their voting base is back east, and that's who they cater to.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 16, 2009, 6:25 PM
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Can't blame you, either!! The enraging thing that, as this is Vancouver and not Toronto or Montreal, the federal government doesn't really care a whole lot; their voting base is back east, and that's who they cater to.
I've been reading through this thread and have a question regarding the comment above as well as similar ones. I do not understand why and how the feds would prefer to grant airlines access to Toronto/Montreal over lets say YVR. Isn't it all just economics? Additionaly how do you create a link between Airline access and a voter base? I never hear of any Federal Govermnent promises regarding access in an attempt to sway votes.
     
     
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