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Old Posted Nov 11, 2009, 1:21 AM
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as mooks28 mentioned, on-the-train checks are usually done in non-rush hour. And there is "nearly no way" you can get away from it, the staff (or transit police in the case of Canada Line) simply check everyone, including seniors.
Which is why I think ProTransBC is doing a great job in this aspect. Maybe it's their uniforms (quite eye catching), but there just seems to be a feeling of more station attendants monitoring the system. You'll find one at least every two stations.
     
     
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i guess that answers how the extra fare to the airport is handled

hopefully tourists are informed and not left with a nasty reminder of their vancouver departures
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It would be super if we had better ticket machines that knew where you were, and you could push the button or the screen on the station you would like to go to.

THEN, fares could be automatically calculated, and no tourist is left confused

Heck, even I was confused and just bought a day pass
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 11, 2009, 4:49 AM
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Was on the Canada line heading south at rush hour today and at the low point under false creek there was a pond (for lack of a better word).

An attendant got on the train at Yaletown, the train slowed to an absolute crawl at the bottom and the train basically waded through the puddle which was as deep as the rails. The attendant seemed to be surveying the pond and got off at Olympic Village.
     
     
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This is actually by no means out of the ordinary for subway systems, many of them (great example is New York) have to continuously pump water out of them, especially in areas where they are below sea level.
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Old Posted Nov 11, 2009, 6:19 AM
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This is actually by no means out of the ordinary for subway systems, many of them (great example is New York) have to continuously pump water out of them, especially in areas where they are below sea level.
Some years ago, a big typhoon turned Taipei Metro into a giant sewage system, and they spent months to pump water out of it
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 11, 2009, 3:07 PM
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Was on the Canada line heading south at rush hour today and at the low point under false creek there was a pond (for lack of a better word).

An attendant got on the train at Yaletown, the train slowed to an absolute crawl at the bottom and the train basically waded through the puddle which was as deep as the rails. The attendant seemed to be surveying the pond and got off at Olympic Village.
Oh so that was the reason yesterday. I got off the 84 bus at Olympic Village to head downtown and when I got down to the platform. The normal south bound track was shut down and everyone was waiting for a train on the northbound track. The sign above the northbound track said the 3 next trains were waterfround yvr brighouse. Luckily I was heading down to waterfront and the train pulled in just as I got onto the platform. That train practically emptied and then half refilled.

On a side but related Canada Line note

I happened to be in Richmond about 1 week ago mid monday afternoon. Did what I had to do and walked over to Brighouse to get on the C-line back to Vancouver. I'm standing on the up escalator when these 2 guys ran up the escalator dashing in between people. So I figured maybe there is a train above so I started walking up fast to maybe catch it. As I'm getting near the top I hear the chime of the door closing and figure oh well I missed it. So I get to the top.

At which point I see the train still there. One guy is on the platform. One guy is on the train just inside the door. At 2 transit police are standing right there. The transit police woman is yelling really loadly at the guy on the train to get of the train now. So he stands there as if he doesn't understand (he was asian) So she literally grabbed him by his jacket and just yanked him off the train. At that point I walked past them to go stand further down the platform. And all I could here was her giving the both of them a lecture on how dangerous it is to do what they just did.

I was killing myself laughing Serves them right.
     
     
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Confirmed: I'll be coming back to Van this Christmas from Dec 19th-Jan 8th. So I'll take the C-Line when I arrive at YVR from a morning flight back to Richmond-Brighouse Stn. 6 weeks and counting. Can't wait to be home!!

I'll provide more of my commentary about it when the time comes.
     
     
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It would be super if we had better ticket machines that knew where you were, and you could push the button or the screen on the station you would like to go to.

THEN, fares could be automatically calculated, and no tourist is left confused

Heck, even I was confused and just bought a day pass
That's what I always do when I go to other cities. Too bad in Seattle, you can only get a roundtrip ticket for LINK and not a day pass I was confused!
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Oh so that was the reason yesterday. I got off the 84 bus at Olympic Village to head downtown and when I got down to the platform. The normal south bound track was shut down and everyone was waiting for a train on the northbound track. The sign above the northbound track said the 3 next trains were waterfround yvr brighouse. Luckily I was heading down to waterfront and the train pulled in just as I got onto the platform. That train practically emptied and then half refilled.
So they actually closed the southbound tunnel and were running a shuttle service between Olympic and Waterfront?
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 11, 2009, 8:21 PM
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So they actually closed the southbound tunnel and were running a shuttle service between Olympic and Waterfront?
Unless I'm mistaken, thanks to the P3 this whole problem should belong to InTransit with no further cost rebound to the taxpayer. If this was a traditionally-funded project, I suspect we'd have a lot more media attention about how it was done "wrong" and was a "waste of money".
     
     
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So they actually closed the southbound tunnel and were running a shuttle service between Olympic and Waterfront?
Not sure I got off at VCC and never checked to see what the sign said above the platform. Did not want to wait around with all those people on the platform.

Not sure where exactly the switch over tracks are so that would determine where the trains crossed.

I do know that I was going back about 30 mins later and both tracks and normal train frequency had been established by then.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 11, 2009, 10:13 PM
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It's good the problem was solved quickly because the pool of water at the bottom of the dip was rather large.
     
     
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How long was the bottom part of the tunnel flooded?
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 11, 2009, 11:25 PM
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Can they just not have a pump ready on those occasions during which it is necessary to clear water from the tunnel?
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 11, 2009, 11:34 PM
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Not sure I got off at VCC and never checked to see what the sign said above the platform. Did not want to wait around with all those people on the platform.

Not sure where exactly the switch over tracks are so that would determine where the trains crossed.

I do know that I was going back about 30 mins later and both tracks and normal train frequency had been established by then.
How crowded was it at that moment? Was it so crowded that the lineups back up towards the top of the stairs, or was it similar to the ones usually seen for E/M-Lines?
     
     
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Unless I'm mistaken, thanks to the P3 this whole problem should belong to InTransit with no further cost rebound to the taxpayer. If this was a traditionally-funded project, I suspect we'd have a lot more media attention about how it was done "wrong" and was a "waste of money".
Maybe... but on the other hand the PPP in this case I think has left us with a system that just meets all requirements set out and does not go the extra mile to make things better.
     
     
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Unless I'm mistaken, thanks to the P3 this whole problem should belong to InTransit with no further cost rebound to the taxpayer. If this was a traditionally-funded project, I suspect we'd have a lot more media attention about how it was done "wrong" and was a "waste of money".
With any luck it'll affect their performance under the contract (they have to meet defined operating standards) and TransLink can reduce the operating payments made to InTransitBC/ProTrans.
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 12, 2009, 12:09 AM
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With any luck it'll affect their performance under the contract (they have to meet defined operating standards) and TransLink can reduce the operating payments made to InTransitBC/ProTrans.
That money isn't quite useful I think. Yes... it's nice to have $400000 back for how many turned-off transit users who had to go through the mess? =S
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 12, 2009, 12:11 AM
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Unless I'm mistaken, thanks to the P3 this whole problem should belong to InTransit with no further cost rebound to the taxpayer. If this was a traditionally-funded project, I suspect we'd have a lot more media attention about how it was done "wrong" and was a "waste of money".
Yup. And ProTransBC is also loosing out in income because of "service disruptions."
     
     
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