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Old Posted Oct 22, 2009, 6:08 PM
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Wow, this is the first shot where I really feel it looks like a building. Can't wait to see this one rise above Manhattan! Definately the most exciting project in the Americas currently, if not the world. Keeping a close eye on it up here in Canada.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 22, 2009, 6:12 PM
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Great pictures, canadate, and welcome to the forum. We look forward to your updates, and genuinely appreciate your contributions.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 22, 2009, 7:16 PM
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^ Now it's only upwards the rest of the way...
are all the corners finally done?
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 22, 2009, 8:07 PM
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Yep ^
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 22, 2009, 8:59 PM
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so how many of the 24 columns are up 21?
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 22, 2009, 9:27 PM
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if they put one up today, then they're all up.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 22, 2009, 9:51 PM
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if they put one up today, then they're all up.
i dont think they did
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 22, 2009, 10:08 PM
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Remember that this portion that we see under construction is the "bunker" upon which the occupied floors will stand. So, it's going to look a little chunky until we start seeing the office floorplates go up in Q1 of 2010.
But usually there's some kind of atrium or impressive entryway for a high-profile building, and I'm having a hard time visualizing where that would be when this section of the building is chock full of beams and cement. I'm not complaining, just curious.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 22, 2009, 10:47 PM
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There is a drawing that refers to floor 110 but I have only been able to find 109 numbered floors. That 109 includes the communications rings above the roof.

The actual floor count is around 92, not counting the basement levels. With those it's 97.
OK, Thanks.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 22, 2009, 10:48 PM
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Canadate, your pictures are perfect ! Like steel — !!
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 22, 2009, 10:51 PM
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Update from morrongiello (Oct 220

     
     
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Old Posted Oct 22, 2009, 11:05 PM
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Remember that this portion that we see under construction is the "bunker" upon which the occupied floors will stand. So, it's going to look a little chunky until we start seeing the office floor plates go up in Q1 of 2010.
The "bunker" is a myth invented by the media. Tower One is designed to withstand 2 things the Twins never were. One, a 5.0 earth quake and two, a force 4+ hurricane. Either one of these well put more stress on the tower than terror.

The blast wall, added well after the tower design was finished, extends up to the underside of the third floor. It's there to protect the lobby from truck bombs.

The core is so large in the base because there are several MEP shafts that terminate at the lower mechanical floors. The largest of these shafts is an air vent for the PATH tunnel under the Hudson. (There is another one built into the Memorial for the in-bound tunnel.)

Like a tree trunk, the core well get smaller as it gets higher and take on an octagonal shape, mirroring the outer walls.



The pic is not sideways it's drawn that way to convey the principle of cantilever tower construction. Gravity is the weakest force acting on the tower.

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Old Posted Oct 22, 2009, 11:09 PM
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Ugh, now one part of the tower is moving faster than the other again . At least the steel cage is up, nothing to worry about.

@Pizutti: This part of the building, when completed, will be clad in glass prisms, and just like the original towers, will have underground passageways that lead to the Mall, WFC, PATH Station, and Fulton Street Transit Center via escalator. The lobby is pretty massive.

Oh, and it's about time the earthcam is up!

@Zensteeldude: The shafts in the memorial and the core of this tower are for loading supplies from the PATH tracks? Or are they for emergency evacuation purposes?
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 22, 2009, 11:20 PM
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Like a tree trunk, the core well get smaller as it gets higher and take on an octagonal shape, mirroring the outer walls.
That will be interesting to see.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 22, 2009, 11:33 PM
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@Zensteeldude: The shafts in the memorial and the core of this tower are for loading supplies from the PATH tracks? Or are they for emergency evacuation purposes?
They are to vent the Tunnels under the Hudson. A train in such a small tunnel acts like a piston, the air has to go somewhere.

Oh, and it's prismatic glass panels, not glass prisms. And some of them wont even be glass, they'll be blast resistant plastic. (nothing is blast proof)

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Old Posted Oct 22, 2009, 11:50 PM
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http://www.panynj.gov/press-room/press-item.cfm?headLine_id=5

PORT AUTHORITY BOARD APPROVES SEVERAL ITEMS TO ENSURE WORLD TRADE CENTER PUBLIC PROJECTS MOVE FORWARD

Date: Oct 22, 2009

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In addition, following a request from New York Governor David A. Paterson in August, the Board also authorized $20 million in planning and design money to allow various consultants to modify certain components of the WTC Hub to permit the Port Authority to complete the construction of the public components of the WTC site independent of construction of Towers 2, 3 and 4.

The development of this option also will require certain modifications of various aspects of One World Trade Center, the Vehicular Security Center and other infrastructure. The design modifications will not compromise the integrity of the design of any of the projects.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 22, 2009, 11:55 PM
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Wow I am impressed. They've really ramped up the construction. It's starting to looking a building now. Thanks for all the updates!
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 23, 2009, 12:50 AM
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Update from morrongiello (Oct 220

I have seen supertalls in the construcion phase where the core rises above the floors, but why isn't this one doing it?
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 23, 2009, 1:03 AM
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^Something about New York City construction guidelines. The core can't rise above the rest of the building during construction.

Isn't it a union issue?
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 23, 2009, 1:08 AM
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The "bunker" is a myth invented by the media. Tower One is designed to withstand 2 things the Twins never were. One, a 5.0 earth quake and two, a force 4+ hurricane. Either one of these well put more stress on the tower than terror.

The blast wall, added well after the tower design was finished, extends up to the underside of the third floor. It's there to protect the lobby from truck bombs.

The core is so large in the base because there are several MEP shafts that terminate at the lower mechanical floors. The largest of these shafts is an air vent for the PATH tunnel under the Hudson. (There is another one built into the Memorial for the in-bound tunnel.)

Like a tree trunk, the core well get smaller as it gets higher and take on an octagonal shape, mirroring the outer walls.
Yeah, I should have mentioned the mechanical elements. I didn't realize that 1 WTC also had ventilation tunnels for the PATH, that's pretty interesting.

However, with blast walls and blast resistant paneling, the description "bunker" does work. While it's not a true bunker the additional blast resistant elements certainly earn a better moniker than "force protection". Bunker sounds better.
     
     
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