General Update/Rumour thread [Urban Ottawa]

[rakerman]

'Promoter Julian Armour thinks the concert hall at 150 Elgin Street will be built.

"It's gonna happen," said Armour, one of the moving forces behind fundraising for the long-delayed project.'

http://communities.canada.com/ottawaciti...-150-elgin-still-a-work-in-progress.aspx

[bikegypsy]

In the wake of the news about the feds needing 5 new buildings in the medium future, it would appear that downtown Ottawa is poised to get a least 11 major (for Ottawa) construction sites.

Claridge will start Plaza 3 and 4 going after phase 2. They also have the approved portrait gallery deal which they've said has been changed to "something missing downtown Ottawa". That site will get a least one building. And then there's the Lisgar building which is very likely to go up. Plus they will built a least one more building at Lebreton in the next 5 years. So that's 5 only for Claridge, minimum.

The feds have called for 5 new buildings, 3 of which (imo) will go in the core. To cover that, Place de Ville will probably get a new one, Lorne bulding is a done deal and 150 Laurier is just about ripe to get off the ground and get the feds in. The 2 other buildings will probably go across the river or in the burbs. That's 3 for the feds in the core.

There's the Central Library in the works. Best thing to happen in the core, ever.

There's Central phase 2 just announced this weekend.

And finally the Bank of Mtl phase 2 on Laurier in my opinion will go up as well in the next five years. The plaza planned with it would be a great addition to the core.

Additionally, there's the Canlands site on Sparks, The Besserer proposal, 500 Preston and something on Bay street if I remember correctly. There's also the 2 towers proposed by Claridge at 801 Albert... we'll see. Also, with the recent condo frenzy, i wouldn't be surprised to see 2 or 3 other projects being proposed.

The sad thing is that there's a strong likelyhood that most of these will be goog old Ottawa style boxes, although the feds have done good with EDC. So who knows, maybe there was a change of guards leading to some more imaginative styles. Canlands will be a really ugly building.... i hope that doesn't go up or that the plans are changed. I would like the library designed by the same architects who did the airport.

So we could count on a minimum of 10 new structures in the next 5-10 years, and if everything goes really well, 15-18.

Having said all that, I'm crossing my fingers for new medium sized projects along Bank street leading a southward push for the core with more Central style developments plus taller buildings near the Queensway. The site of the bus terminal would be perfect for a few 20-story buildings full of civil servants.

Opinions?

[MaxHeadroom]

Originally Posted by danny the dog

Any idea of this will bring some development to Tunney's or Booth Street?

You won't see any development at Tunney's until the overloaded city trunk sewer serving the complex is upgraded.

[Ryersonian]

Originally Posted by bikegypsy

The site of the bus terminal would be perfect for a few 20-story buildings full of civil servants.

Opinions?

Ya man, for sure the Bytown needs to grow up...we all agree.

[m0nkyman]

Originally Posted by Ryersonian

Ya man, for sure the Bytown needs to grow up...we all agree.

I don't agree. We need to keep new towers in he core as close to transit as posible. Putting the towers on Catherine would align them with the Queensway as the main access and not transit. That would be poor planning.

[harls]

Originally Posted by bikegypsy

In the wake of the news about the feds needing 5 new buildings in the medium future, it would appear that downtown Ottawa is poised to get a least 11 major (for Ottawa) construction sites.

Claridge will start Plaza 3 and 4 going after phase 2. They also have the approved portrait gallery deal which they've said has been changed to "something missing downtown Ottawa". That site will get a least one building. And then there's the Lisgar building which is very likely to go up. Plus they will built a least one more building at Lebreton in the next 5 years. So that's 5 only for Claridge, minimum.

The feds have called for 5 new buildings, 3 of which (imo) will go in the core. To cover that, Place de Ville will probably get a new one, Lorne bulding is a done deal and 150 Laurier is just about ripe to get off the ground and get the feds in. The 2 other buildings will probably go across the river or in the burbs. That's 3 for the feds in the core.

There's the Central Library in the works. Best thing to happen in the core, ever.

There's Central phase 2 just announced this weekend.

And finally the Bank of Mtl phase 2 on Laurier in my opinion will go up as well in the next five years. The plaza planned with it would be a great addition to the core.

Additionally, there's the Canlands site on Sparks, The Besserer proposal, 500 Preston and something on Bay street if I remember correctly. There's also the 2 towers proposed by Claridge at 801 Albert... we'll see. Also, with the recent condo frenzy, i wouldn't be surprised to see 2 or 3 other projects being proposed.

The sad thing is that there's a strong likelyhood that most of these will be goog old Ottawa style boxes, although the feds have done good with EDC. So who knows, maybe there was a change of guards leading to some more imaginative styles. Canlands will be a really ugly building.... i hope that doesn't go up or that the plans are changed. I would like the library designed by the same architects who did the airport.

So we could count on a minimum of 10 new structures in the next 5-10 years, and if everything goes really well, 15-18.

Having said all that, I'm crossing my fingers for new medium sized projects along Bank street leading a southward push for the core with more Central style developments plus taller buildings near the Queensway. The site of the bus terminal would be perfect for a few 20-story buildings full of civil servants.

Opinions?

Two more towers will go up in Gatineau, too if that counts.

[waterloowarrior]

Originally Posted by bikegypsy

Claridge will start Plaza 3 and 4 going after phase 2. They also have the approved portrait gallery deal which they've said has been changed to "something missing downtown Ottawa". That site will get a least one building. And then there's the Lisgar building which is very likely to go up. Plus they will built a least one more building at Lebreton in the next 5 years. So that's 5 only for Claridge, minimum.

There's also the 2 towers proposed by Claridge at 801 Albert

"something missing downtown Ottawa" = grocery store?

There's also the sites Claridge bought at 383 Albert and 260 Maclaren.

I believe 801 Albert is by Phoenix, not Claridge.

[Gitfiddler]

Originally Posted by bikegypsy

In the wake of the news about the feds needing 5 new buildings in the medium future, it would appear that downtown Ottawa is poised to get a least 11 major (for Ottawa) construction sites.

Claridge will start Plaza 3 and 4 going after phase 2. They also have the approved portrait gallery deal which they've said has been changed to "something missing downtown Ottawa". That site will get a least one building. And then there's the Lisgar building which is very likely to go up. Plus they will built a least one more building at Lebreton in the next 5 years. So that's 5 only for Claridge, minimum.

The feds have called for 5 new buildings, 3 of which (imo) will go in the core. To cover that, Place de Ville will probably get a new one, Lorne bulding is a done deal and 150 Laurier is just about ripe to get off the ground and get the feds in. The 2 other buildings will probably go across the river or in the burbs. That's 3 for the feds in the core.

There's the Central Library in the works. Best thing to happen in the core, ever.

There's Central phase 2 just announced this weekend.

And finally the Bank of Mtl phase 2 on Laurier in my opinion will go up as well in the next five years. The plaza planned with it would be a great addition to the core.

Additionally, there's the Canlands site on Sparks, The Besserer proposal, 500 Preston and something on Bay street if I remember correctly. There's also the 2 towers proposed by Claridge at 801 Albert... we'll see. Also, with the recent condo frenzy, i wouldn't be surprised to see 2 or 3 other projects being proposed.

The sad thing is that there's a strong likelyhood that most of these will be goog old Ottawa style boxes, although the feds have done good with EDC. So who knows, maybe there was a change of guards leading to some more imaginative styles. Canlands will be a really ugly building.... i hope that doesn't go up or that the plans are changed. I would like the library designed by the same architects who did the airport.

So we could count on a minimum of 10 new structures in the next 5-10 years, and if everything goes really well, 15-18.

Having said all that, I'm crossing my fingers for new medium sized projects along Bank street leading a southward push for the core with more Central style developments plus taller buildings near the Queensway. The site of the bus terminal would be perfect for a few 20-story buildings full of civil servants.

Opinions?

Part of the feds' suburban strategy will likely include scooping up the Nortel campus in Kanata, and likely will be DND. That leaves what would then become the former NDHQ empty downtown.

Additionally, the feds will be using the Tremblay/St-Laurent property to build a new campus for another agency. This would free up a considerable number of floors in about 19 different downtown buildings.

[Admiral Nelson]

Originally Posted by Gitfiddler

Part of the feds' suburban strategy will likely include scooping up the Nortel campus in Kanata, and likely will be DND. That leaves what would then become the former NDHQ empty downtown.

Pity the DND employee who commutes from Orleans

[RTWAP]

Originally Posted by Gitfiddler

Part of the feds' suburban strategy will likely include scooping up the Nortel campus in Kanata, and likely will be DND. That leaves what would then become the former NDHQ empty downtown.

Additionally, the feds will be using the Tremblay/St-Laurent property to build a new campus for another agency. This would free up a considerable number of floors in about 19 different downtown buildings.

By Nortel campus in Kanata, do you mean the Nortel campus in the former Nepean, at Carling and Moodie?

[bikegypsy]

Originally Posted by harls

Two more towers will go up in Gatineau, too if that counts.

Yes of course... my mistake.
Thanks Harls.

[bikegypsy]

Originally Posted by waterloowarrior

"something missing downtown Ottawa" = grocery store?

There's also the sites Claridge bought at 383 Albert and 260 Maclaren.

I believe 801 Albert is by Phoenix, not Claridge.

I didn't know about 383 Albert and 260 Maclaren... thanks!
True dat about Pheonix.. thanks again.

[bikegypsy]

Originally Posted by Gitfiddler

Part of the feds' suburban strategy will likely include scooping up the Nortel campus in Kanata, and likely will be DND. That leaves what would then become the former NDHQ empty downtown.

Additionally, the feds will be using the Tremblay/St-Laurent property to build a new campus for another agency. This would free up a considerable number of floors in about 19 different downtown buildings.

Indeed. I wonder how this will play in terms of transit issues. Suburban devlopments usually equate to more cars on the road.

[Gitfiddler]

Originally Posted by RTWAP

By Nortel campus in Kanata, do you mean the Nortel campus in the former Nepean, at Carling and Moodie?

Yes. My bad.

Indeed. I wonder how this will play in terms of transit issues. Suburban devlopments usually equate to more cars on the road.

LRT? Probably not. But then again, gubment cares not for mundane things.

[rakerman]

Originally Posted by waterloowarrior

"something missing downtown Ottawa" = grocery store?

There's also the sites Claridge bought at 383 Albert and 260 Maclaren.

I believe 801 Albert is by Phoenix, not Claridge.

Is 383 Albert across from where the new Central Library is going? That area has potential to be a major redevelopment.

[waterloowarrior]

Originally Posted by rakerman

Is 383 Albert across from where the new Central Library is going? That area has potential to be a major redevelopment.

Yep, 383 Albert is the parking lot at the NW corner of Lyon and Albert, so just to the north of the proposed central library

[RTWAP]

Originally Posted by bikegypsy

Indeed. I wonder how this will play in terms of transit issues. Suburban devlopments usually equate to more cars on the road.

Having lived in DC, where there are suburban employment hubs all over the place, I totally agree that this just leads to more cars, unless the employment hubs are also transit hubs. The intensification around the Baseline Station will probably be good. Baseline Station will be easy enough to reach that anyone who lives near the transit station should be able to reach it quickly.

[waterloowarrior]

314 Booth (@Eccles).. 42 unit retirement residence



the community association notes this is at the former Desjardins IGA/Loeb site

[waterloowarrior]

Images of Centretown has a piece on the Lorne building @ 90 Elgin

It's a prime spot for a landmark building

[bikegypsy]

Originally Posted by waterloowarrior

"something missing downtown Ottawa" = grocery store?

Could be. But I've been thinking more in the lines of entertainment... and the only the only thing that there's not in the core is actually a casino. Or perhaps it's just alot more subtle than that... maybe a building full of lofts.