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Old Posted Sep 13, 2009, 6:46 PM
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Breaking News

THE THOMPSON BUILDING

remember?...the one that sent me into a frenzy over the possibility of becoming a massive and exclusively low-income housing project?

All week there have been sharp looking business executive type's and architect...engineer's type's studying the entire building


now there is a app. ten foot sign in between the 2nd & 3rd floors

a for sale sign


being sold by the firm CB Richard Ellis

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I hope there is a decant amount of affordable\student units to the combined total of around 25%

this way, some individuals will be able to improve there lot in life, and it is fair to the entire community.

to bad "Ms counter-Logic"...AKA Dawn Sloan....rammed in a last min. 50 HBD foot height limit on the entire area....I would have liked to have seen a like 9 story condo....tapering down with terraces, to about 4 stories as it goes up Harvey.....if it wasn't for Sloane and that ridiculous town House only zoning, for the parking lot that could have been done....thanks...ohhh and with retail all along Harvey and barrington of course
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Old Posted Sep 13, 2009, 7:42 PM
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Cbrh does not seem to have anything on it's website concerning this property yet

will call tomorrow....try and find out what development restriction are in place
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You beat me to the punch, I was just about to post about the for sale sign. I did however find this on their website.
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Old Posted Sep 13, 2009, 8:32 PM
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You beat me to the punch, I was just about to post about the for sale sign. I did however find this on their website.
Me too I saw them putting the sign up when I was coming home today. Nice to see this moving forward as the building has been an empty shell for quite a while.
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Old Posted Sep 13, 2009, 10:14 PM
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nice KPh.....cheers

it is interesting to note, that although MS......Dawn Sloan, slapped a draconian 50 foot height limit on the entire area....Do to Major setbacks in the structure of the the building, and the fact that the building is set back an extra, 10-12 foot from the required distance between sidewalk and structure...if a new building was developed in it's place, it could easily be of a much greater square footage, even though it would be appr. 12 foot shorter, at 50 foot
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The Sir Thompson building closes on Sept 24th for offers.

Looks like the only strong and viable option is res.

The parking lot has restrictions put on it by Bev Miller and the residents in area that it only be townhouses or single family homes.

Drives me bonkers that they could and did this.
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does anyone know app. how many people worked out of the Sir Thompson building during it's hay day?
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Drives me bonkers that they could and did this.
It is ridiculous but I am guessing there's no reason why the developer couldn't lobby for a similar motion to again change the zoning.

Of course, in that case they'd be labeled another greedy developer out to change existing planning regulations, even though townhouses for that site are no more appropriate than a giant tower would be.

I have no idea how feasible it would be to retain the existing building but I think the obvious best case for that site is something built a little closer to the street, with some ground floor retail. The current massing with a new three or four storey addition built out to Barrington and Harvey would be ideal.
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By the way, this is slightly off-topic, but does anybody remember what was at the corner of Barrington and South, one block down from the Thompson Building site, where presently there are cheap looking condos? I've heard that there used to be a military building but I have never seen photos of it.
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It is ridiculous but I am guessing there's no reason why the developer couldn't lobby for a similar motion to again change the zoning.

Of course, in that case they'd be labeled another greedy developer out to change existing planning regulations, even though townhouses for that site are no more appropriate than a giant tower would be.

I have no idea how feasible it would be to retain the existing building but I think the obvious best case for that site is something built a little closer to the street, with some ground floor retail. The current massing with a new three or four storey addition built out to Barrington and Harvey would be ideal.
Most cost effective would be to keep the existing structure as is and reskin the building. As soon as you knock it down you would be under the current MPS or worse HRM by Design.

Additionally unless there is 100 units or more retail cannot be allowed without being granted a variance, which we know how long that can take around here.
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Don't ask me why i know this (because I don't know) but the building at the corner of Barrington and south was the Chiefs & Petty Officers’ (C&POs’) Mess. A unremarkable building, as i remember it.
Not to quibble, but the Sir Thompson building is the Sir JOHN Thompson building. JET
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By the way, this is slightly off-topic, but does anybody remember what was at the corner of Barrington and South, one block down from the Thompson Building site, where presently there are cheap looking condos? I've heard that there used to be a military building but I have never seen photos of it.
Yes, it was a former military building, 2 or 3 floors in height. IIRC it had a brick facade with some stone (or stone-like) windowsills, but was pretty nondescript overall.

I'm sure Barr South could remember it more clearly.
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Old Posted Sep 14, 2009, 10:27 PM
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Here's an old aerial photo of the area (from http://www.library.dal.ca/duasc/buildings/aerialimages.htm):



Looks like there was also some kind of apartment building in behind.
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Old Posted Sep 15, 2009, 12:11 AM
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the very large setbacks on the Thompson building are visible in this picture

on the south, and west sides
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an employee of the rumored café Chianti building project told me the owner is "working" on developing the property

NOT GOOD
The fellow that owns this building hasn't developed anything of substantial scale or size in almost 20 years. He built "The SouthHampton" just around the corner from this property on Hollis Street, but other than that, he hasn't really done very much.

Although he has the same name, it's a different person than the developer at Hydrostone, different then the developer of the Fairmount.

Furthermore, I haven't heard anything about a development at this property, I think it's an unsubstantiated rumor.
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Old Posted Oct 12, 2009, 7:45 AM
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Furthermore, I haven't heard anything about a development at this property, I think it's an unsubstantiated rumor.
Possible, but I heard the rumor again, this time a fellow said it was being kept very hush hush

I queried two of his employees about the possibility, one saying "their working on it", the other "yes, eventually, but not for a long time"
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Hints of downtown development
Luigi Benigno, new owner of the buildings housing former Seven wine bar on Argyle, has big plans for his new digs.

by Anna Duckworth

Hotels, condos, apartments---it looks like something big may be sweeping into a lucrative little pocket of Halifax's downtown.

Luigi Benigno is the proud new owner of the building that houses Mosaic Lounge on Argyle Street and the former Seven Wine Bar on Grafton Street. Without divulging any concrete details, Benigno is hinting at some "big plans" for this city block.

After closing a real-estate deal with prominent restaurateurs Costa Elles and Chris Tzaneteas, Benigno now owns almost the entire city block between Argyle, Grafton, Blowers and Sackville Streets, with the exception of the Marriott Residence Inn.

There are no immediate plans to develop the block, but Benigno admits he has ideas for a "big project" that he hopes will foster a more lively downtown. As it is, "we don't have anything to offer in Halifax," he says. People are leaving the city in droves and "we have to change that," says Benigno.

In the meantime, it will be business as usual for bar-goers at Mosaic. Seven, however, closed its doors permanently last Saturday. Benigno bought the building, but the Seven restaurant brand was not part of the deal.

Another high-end restaurant is set to replace Seven in as early as a month, Benigno says. Together with former Seven owners Elles and Tzaneteas, Benigno is developing a fresh and secretive concept for the new haunt. Details on the latest venture should be made public in the next few weeks.
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"Rejection of seniors complex overturned by regulator"
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/nova-scotia/story/2009/10/13/ns-anglican-church-seniors.html
The article is a bit confusing, it refers to land at University and College, but must mean college and "Tower", or College and Summer, or is it the whole block on college between tower and summer?
The two houses on Tower are very nice, a tragedy if they were razed. Anyone know any more about this?
The CBC article is also google street interactive if you click on the photo. JET
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Pretty sure they are talking College and Tower. Lovely houses, and I would love to have that nice garage. That church is really trying to squeeze every dollar out of that property.
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Old Posted Oct 16, 2009, 9:46 AM
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Here's a couple possible new developments

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Source: The Chronicle Herald

Church property may be in play

By ROGER TAYLOR Business Columnist

Fri. Oct 16 - 4:46 AM

HOLY SMOKES. As if overseeing a $300-million redevelopment of the former Halifax Herald property in downtown Halifax wasn’t enough for Rank Inc., the company may have another downtown construction project on the go at about the same time.

Peter Browne, the financial administrator for the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Halifax, told me Thursday that the archdiocese has signed a letter of intent with Rank to develop church-owned lands adjacent to St. Mary’s Basilica on Spring Garden Road.

Halifax businessman Joe Ramia heads Rank Inc.

"At this point, we entered into an early-stage agreement with Rank and we’re trying to come up with something that we can build in the space that will give us some income and also provide us with some pastoral mission," Browne says. "But exactly what shape that will take, we’re not sure at this time."

He says the church hopes to have at least a preliminary idea of what the building will look like by mid-2010.

"Part of the reason we’ve been held up a little longer than we thought is that the parking lot for the cathedral has been swept up in the Barrington (Street) heritage designation. So there are limitations on that, even though it is essentially . . . nothing, it is still involved in that heritage district."

The church hopes to have the parking lot at the corner of Spring Garden Road and Grafton Street excluded from the Barrington Street Heritage Conservation District in order to expand development options for the site, he says.

I understand, however, that despite the concerns from the church, when the plans for the property are finally revealed, it will include development of the parking lot, a courtyard behind the church and the building that now houses the diocese administration offices at 1521 Grafton St.

The church hopes development of the lands will create an income stream that could be used to help defray the cost of maintaining the cathedral and the neighbouring glebe house at the corner of Barrington Street and Spring Garden Road. The glebe house is designated a historic property.

The other goal would be to create low-income housing and some space for ministry work, says Browne.

The church is also trying to incorporate into any new development the kinds of things recommended in the municipality’s HRM by Design plan, he says.

Rank was chosen by the church after the archdiocese put out a request for proposals last year. Rank had an advantage, he says, because it already owns the neighbouring Barrington Gate apartment building at the corner of Barrington and Blowers streets, as well as 5220 Blowers St., a skateboard shop that backs onto the church courtyard.

The courtyard behind the cathedral has limited access from any of the surrounding streets, says Browne, so creating new access points will be important.

The only real way to get into the courtyard now is through a narrow passageway between the church and the church administration building on Grafton Street, he says.

Most of the courtyard would be part of the development and the cathedral parking lot would probably be used as well, he says.

There isn’t a firm deal yet, but Browne says the church is optimistic the project will be able to go ahead as planned.

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Big dreams for Shannon Park
Canada Lands sees modern residential complex sprouting on old military site
By CHRIS LAMBIE Business Editor
Fri. Oct 16 - 4:46 AM


IMAGINE THE DAY when you could live in a new environmentally friendly home in Shannon Park where a wine bar was just a short stroll away.

Canada Lands Co. is talking to the Department of National Defence about making that a possibility someday on the 42.5-hectare property on the Dartmouth side of Halifax Harbour.

"We are slated to be receiving the Shannon Park property," said Gordon McIvor, a vice-president of the Crown corporation.

If the arm’s-length, self-financing body does acquire Shannon Park, Mr. McIvor said he suspects there will be a lot of interest from developers.

"It’s a big, very well-situated property," he said. "It’s right next to the Bedford Institute of Oceanography. It’s right under the bridge."

He wouldn’t put a price tag on the land, but said Canada Lands would likely have to pay DND millions of dollars for the "valuable and complex" property.

"We actually can engage in zoning with the city," Mr. McIvor said. "We’ve done 13 military base re-conversions across the country. So, obviously, we’re very interested in continuing that type of work because we’ve developed a lot of expertise in it."

Former bases lend themselves to mixed-use development, "with a very heavy accent on residential and green space," he said.

"We’ve won a lot of environmental awards."

The plan is to develop a master plan, then sell the property to a developer to build.

"Our concept is to reduce the impact of the automobile basically as much as possible," Mr. McIvor said.

"We try and create a property where people potentially could live, work and play in close proximity. So you want to worry about access to public transit. You want to think about, OK, can people on a Friday and Saturday and Sunday night, could they walk to a restaurant or a movie theatre or to wherever they want to go — to a wine bar? You want to get people so that they’re back walking and bicycling and not necessarily taking their car to go everywhere."

Shannon Park is one of the "opportunity sites" identified in Halifax’s regional municipal planning strategy. It could accommodate significant future population growth, said Andy Fillmore, the city’s urban designer.

"So that’s all fantastic. Inside the regional centre means it’s accessible by local transit. You can get there on a bicycle. In the future, you could get there on a ferry. You don’t necessarily have to own a car if you’re going to live there. You’re close to all kinds of recreation. You’re close to that tremendous view of the harbour. (It would be) a huge lifestyle boon to live in the Shannon Park area — a big draw."

In a telephone interview from Sweden, where he’s touring sustainable communities, Mr. Fillmore waxed poetic about the Scandinavian country’s sustainable elements. And he stressed the same ideas could be used to rebuild Shannon Park.

"What we’re seeing are large-scale new communities close to downtown cores on bike, pedestrian and public transit routes, holding huge amounts of people," Mr. Fillmore said. "We’re talking about mid-rise, anywhere from two- to eight-storey buildings, arranged around central common greens with plenty of bicycle parking, plenty of community gardens and daycares."

The Swedish communities use "district heating," he said, "so rather than every building having a huge boiler or every house having a furnace in the basement, there would be one central heating plant with hot water pipes to every unit. It’s hugely efficient. You can run the district heating plant on wood pellets."

Shannon Park could also make use of solar and wind power.

"You know the wind just howls up that harbour," Mr. Fillmore said. "Shannon Park is ideal."

At its peak, several thousand military personnel and their families lived and worked in the 113 buildings on the property. But now it’s mostly abandoned, save for the arena and a school the military handed over to the Halifax Regional School Board.

Halifax developer Wadih Fares was cautious about the potential for a Shannon Park redevelopment in the near future.

"If they bring it (forward) in the next couple of years, I don’t think it will fly. But probably in five years or more than that, it may be something that a lot of us would be interested in," Mr. Fares said.

"I am very optimistic there’s a big potential in Halifax. But we’ve got to take it easy and go slowly. You can’t dump everything on the market all at once."
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