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Old Posted Oct 7, 2009, 11:01 PM
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It is indeed an Earl's from what I have heard / seen. Will be interesting to see who else continues to shuffle down Granville and clean it up as they go.
The clean-up of Granville continues. Good and bad news - good that a major name will anchor the corner - and hopefully as discussed before they can get a nice European-style patio at street level. Bad in that the small independents like the Nelson Cafe are gone. Although that's inevitable as the rents rise and redevelopment happens. Hopefully the owner got a big fat payoff and opens a new place in a Vancouver neighbourhood.
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Wonder how the Yaletown Earl's is doing - still haven't set foot in the place - although I go to the Fir St. Earl's almost every Monday.
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Old Posted Oct 7, 2009, 11:21 PM
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The clean-up of Granville continues. Good and bad news - good that a major name will anchor the corner - and hopefully as discussed before they can get a nice European-style patio at street level. Bad in that the small independents like the Nelson Cafe are gone. Although that's inevitable as the rents rise and redevelopment happens. Hopefully the owner got a big fat payoff and opens a new place in a Vancouver neighbourhood.
Im interested to find out what is going to happen at the Corner of Granville and Helmcken.
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Old Posted Oct 7, 2009, 11:24 PM
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Im interested to find out what is going to happen at the Corner of Granville and Helmcken.
isn't that where Le Chateau is going? in the old Car rental placE? the bigger one is suppossed to be Le Chateau no word on the smaller spot
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Winners has moved to a new location in Park Royal
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Old Posted Oct 7, 2009, 11:41 PM
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Winners has moved to a new location in Park Royal
Still baffles me why people like that store so much..... If people knew the process of how they get that stuff I think it would change things.

Ugh.
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Old Posted Oct 7, 2009, 11:43 PM
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my friend saw some stuff at homesense for a store he used to work at apparently they bought a big chunk of stuff from them but the lamps that were on sale were rejected by the original store because they were missing their bases but homesense was selling em as they were
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Winners has moved to a new location in Park Royal
The old Linens'n'Things.. big space.
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A new CIBC opened....Kennedy Heights:

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Kennedy Heights Shopping Centre
11920 88 Avenue, Delta, BC V4C 3C8
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Makes me think Crate and Barrel will go to Metrotown first.
i.e. in addition to locating in the burbs in Calgary, in Seattle, their location is at Bellevue Square - not downtown. In Toronto, they're at Yorkdale, not downtown.
Think about it though. What do Southcentre, Yorkdale and Bellevue square have in common that Metrotown does not. Large affluent populations. They need minimum 100,000 people within 15 minute drive with household incomes greater than $100k to be even considered. That leaves Oakridge and Park Royal as pretty much the only opportunities.

There is also space available at Park Royal with the absence of Petcetera and Linens N' Things. Well, actually Winners took Linens N' Things' space, but their old space upstairs is now available.
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i didnt realize crate and barrel require that, how do you know these things lol. I never thought crate and barrel was even that expensive.
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True, but I don't think of Park Royal as being that great a mall - it's older and the larger spaces are hidden in back around parking structures, etc.

WRT Oakridge I'm thinking space constraints.
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oakridge had plans to expand they could use the parking lot ear safeway to expand for C&B if needed

another choise would be south surrey/white rock that area is said to be the second highest incoem area after west vancouver thats why they are opening that second lifestyle village there

Hamburger marys reno is done looks a little bigger
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Old Posted Oct 8, 2009, 9:21 PM
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what about south granville. seems to be more higher income people in that area than white rock
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Old Posted Oct 8, 2009, 9:25 PM
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per capita maybe?

that was the justification for the people who did the park royal village and their choice of building morgan crossing which is supposed to be filled with high end shops in the new second lifestyle village in that area...

which should open soon

there is a 7-11 opening on west boradway - somewhere between main and cambie - that area really needed a good 24 hour store
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Old Posted Oct 8, 2009, 10:09 PM
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[They need minimum 100,000 people within 15 minute drive with household incomes greater than $100k to be even considered. That leaves Oakridge and Park Royal as pretty much the only opportunities. ]

A good friend of mine is an interior designer. He's always amazed at how cheap West Vancouverites are when it comes to furnishing their homes. They want the flashy address but don't want to spend the money inside. I've heard the same thing from retailers (even those in West Van) - they can't bring in a quality (albeit pricey) European line of product, for example, because the residents won't pay the price. Essentially, you've got a neighbourhood of very expensive homes filled with 🞵🞵🞵🞵. I'm not all that familiar with the merchandise sold by Crate & Barrel - if their stuff is cheap, they would do well at Park Royal, if it's a bit more higher end, maybe not.
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Old Posted Oct 8, 2009, 10:37 PM
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crate and barrel is like basics - its reasonable - the furniture is decent and not too badly priced - its prices are like Pottery Barn low to mid end

crate and barrel also carries brands that a lot of other stores carry so they have to compete unlike a place like pottery barn who really only has its own branded merchandise


nerej.com


fourthstreetshop.com


daylife.com

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I don't care where Crate & Barrel ends up. I'd go find it . I used to live near one, and furnished nearly my entire apartment with their furnishings at the time. I'd describe as solid middle of the spectrum or even a a bit higher than middle.

I love Crate & Barrel. It fills a really good niche. They have plenty of good quality kitchen accessories, bath items, and interior pieces (vases, candles, bedding, even home office pieces). There furnishings tend to have a classic contemporary look, and they use unique woods and fibers from exotic locations. They offer good quality at a good price. I think of their kitchen and serving items as falling somewhere between Williams Sonoma and Ikea - closer to Williams Sonoma in quality but with better prices.

The furnishings aren't inexpensive, but they're not outlandish either for the quality. And, again, they select nice looking items. Solid wood beds and tables, great sofa collections. If I were to describe in terms of local stores, I'd say better quality than EQ3 and not as high end (i.e. exclusive) as Living Spaces Interiors or Inform. As I mentioned, though, the furnishings are really solid / well-constructed and offered at reasonable pieces. I think their furniture is a good value for the prices. They may not have the exclusivity of some of Vancouver's high-end stores, but I find it just as good as far as quality and durability and styling.

Here's a link to the catalogue page of their Canadian website: http://www.crateandbarrel.ca/About-Us-Catalogue.aspx. You'll notice they have different catalogues, kitchen and serving items in one, a different one for furnishings.

It's probably easy to check out on the US store - www.crateandbarrel.com - as it has an actual on-line purchasing capability - which the Canadian site doesn't seem to have (guess the distribution network is lacking in Canada?). I'd suggest checking out the kitchen section and then the furniture living room and bedroom sets to get a sense of the range of items and style they offer.

As far as location, it really depends on if they have a large or small store. The larger stores are quite large, with a whole floor devoted to furnishings and another floor dedicated to everything else. But they also have smaller stores which focus on just the kitchen, bath, home office, and accessory pieces.

I could very much see them fitting one of the smaller stores into Oakridge (demographics) or Metrotown or even Pacific Centre. For the larger store, I think Oakridge might not have the size location they need. Plus, they tend to like to build their own unique stand-alone stores for the larger stores unless they can get a really prominent mall corner spot with street and mall entrances.

I think Metrotown would be a possible location, especially if they could build a new site in a corner of the exterior parking lot. I suppose they might be willing to go out to the new "Morgan Crossing" area if it continues to develop, but that seems too far out for a first Vancouver store. Once established in an area, maybe. But not at first.

I can't image where they'd go in Park Royale - size or style doesn't seem to fit there.

My bet would be on Metrotown if I had to pick a local knowing what exists now. The only other possibility is if they could convince Oakridge to let them build a new building somewhere on their exterior parking lot, which I can't imagine them really allowing though it would be a good fit demographically.
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If Bed, Bath and Beyond can open their first BC store in Central City Surrey, I think it's possible to get a Crate and Barrel in Morgan Crossing.

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Old Posted Oct 8, 2009, 11:09 PM
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yah that would be interesting - it is a destination store so people will drive to it no matter where it ends up

Me and my friend were thinking somewhere near the Olympic Village would be good - so many big lots and spaces available in that area it seems

but how about stylesense? they should be hitting this area soon - they have 3 stores in Toronto already - they are owned by Winners - they sell shoes and accessories and some high end stuff like chanel & dior has been found in their stores

maybe the old winners in Park royal will become one?
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