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Old Posted Sep 24, 2009, 12:14 PM
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$139 million commuter parkway begins. Route 92 project will include commuter lanes

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705332049/Route-92-project-will-include-commuter-lanes.html


Gov. Gary Herbert "kicks off" the UDOT state Route 92 project on Wednesday.

By Laura Hancock
The Deseret News


Here's the deal about living in northern Utah County: The towns are not exactly dotted along the freeway.

If you're a resident of, say, Eagle Mountain or Alpine, you've got a good drive to get to Interstate 15 — anywhere from five or 10 to 15 or more miles.

And as northern Utah County has become more populated, commuting along two-lane highways has become even more difficult. On the west side of the interstate, the Utah Department of Transportation is building Pioneer Crossing, which goes from Redwood Road in Saratoga Springs through Lehi to I-15 in American Fork, to relieve congestion.

And on Wednesday, UDOT and dignitaries kicked off a $139 million project to expand state Route 92. With completion expected in the summer of 2011, it will affect residents in Lehi, Alpine, Highland and Cedar Hills.

"For a lot of old timers, they like the rural-feel feeling" that the hamlets in northern Utah County provided, said Rep. John Dougall, R-American Fork. "But our community is changing."

Between 2000 and 2008, the area gained about 50,000 new residents, said J. Kent Millington, member of the Utah Transportation Commission, which prioritizes projects for UDOT.

Lehi's population has increased from 19,000 to 50,000. Highland's has increased from 8,000 to 16,000. Alpine's has increased from 7,000 to 10,000. Cedar Hills' has increased from 3,000 to 10,000, Millington said.

Most of the growth is internal, as Utah County has a high birth rate, said Gov. Gary Herbert, who formerly served on the Utah County Commission.

Herbert believes the project will help revitalize the Utah economy as contractors hire crews to expand the road.

"People will have an opportunity to purchase goods and services as that $139 million ripples throughout the economy," Herbert said. "And that affects all of us."

The project involves adding one lane to Route 92 in each direction, plus adding one "commuter lane" in each direction. The highway now has one lane in each direction, plus a turn lane in the middle.

The commuter lanes will be adjacent to, but separate from, the highway. The idea is to keep traffic in the commuter lanes moving. They will not have stoplights and will merge on and off the freeway ramps and various city streets. UDOT Executive Director John Njord does not know yet if the speeds of the commuter lanes will be faster than the regular highway.

In some places, the commuter lanes will run under city streets, such as at 1200 West in Lehi, or over city streets, such as at 1200 East in Highland. In some places, the east- and westbound commuter lanes will run next to each other, almost like a mini-highway next to a larger highway. At other places, the eastbound commuter lane will run adjacent to the eastbound highway lanes, and the westbound commuter lane will run adjacent to the westbound highway lanes, almost like a frontage road next to a freeway.

Cool Video Link: www.udot.utah.gov/sr92/.

The idea of the commuter lanes developed on UDOT drawing boards, as engineers scratched their heads about how to move people to the freeway fast. "We just kind of created it on our own," Njord said. "We've got some really great engineers."

UDOT will also build two sections of asphalt trail to connect with existing or planned trails in the area. Utah County and the four cities have trails in their master plans.

"In our environmental work, we found recreational users use SR-92 frequently," said Dan Avila, UDOT deputy program director, referring to commuting cyclists, parents with strollers and in-line skaters.

UDOT plans for cyclists to use the shoulder, which will be wider than most shoulders, at 8 feet. Car lanes are 12 feet wide, Avila said.

With a trail system adjacent to Legacy Parkway and now Route 92, Avila said, people have been saying at public hearings UDOT holds before beginning a highway project that they want recreation opportunities.

"We recognize transportation is not just moving cars," he said.

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Another government bailout of sprawl. More tax money to help those who decided to live so far from major transportation corridors. Booo!
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As long as there's a bridge...

If there's going to be a bridge, and I'm of mixed feelings on one, might as well make it nice/interesting/unique to look at... ...so, here's a little bit of my ideas...

The Utah Lake bridge would utilize stacked-stone skin in native rock colors with lots of coated, weather resistant iron and copper details. Four wide lanes of traffic with occasional bulge-outs for clearing accidents, etc would allow for regular non-stop traffic flow. Light rail would also cross on the south side of the bridge with a wide pedestrian walk/bike/run area completing the south side.

A special floating marina & water park could be situated somewhere in mid-span, accessible only by pedestrian or light rail; no car traffic. Self contained restrooms could be positioned at strategic points. The bridge would feature all solar-powered lighting and an Iconic copper-clad drawbridge in mid-lake.




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If there's going to be a bridge, and I'm of mixed feelings on one, might as well make it nice/interesting/unique to look at... ...so, here's a little bit of my ideas...

The Utah Lake bridge would utilize stacked-stone skin in native rock colors with lots of coated, weather resistant iron and copper details. Four wide lanes of traffic with occasional bulge-outs for clearing accidents, etc would allow for regular non-stop traffic flow. Light rail would also cross on the south side of the bridge with a wide pedestrian walk/bike/run area completing the south side.

A special floating marina & water park could be situated somewhere in mid-span, accessible only by pedestrian or light rail; no car traffic. Self contained restrooms could be positioned at strategic points. The bridge would feature all solar-powered lighting and an Iconic copper-clad drawbridge in mid-lake.




Just a thought...
I like this a hell of a lot better than that gigantic overpass they proposed! It's very interesting. and It'll be something iconic and unique to the the area. If they're gonna put something across the lake, make it beautiful, and make it compliment the natural scenery.
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300 room P. G. hotel

I believe this was mentioned in previous posts, but here is more information about the Pleasant Grove Hotel. I wish this was in downtown Provo. This is another reason why Ogden has a better downtown than Provo.

300 room Pleasant Grove Hotel to resume construction.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa5279/is_20090914/ai_n35707900/
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Provo is getting its convention center and there is a rumor that Marriott may be rebuilding its property on Center St next to the CC and increase it's height from 9 to 12 stories. It is also rumored that a second hotel will be built in close proximity to the downtown cc (Hilton?)

I like Ogden's downtown, a lot. From an historic architectural standpoint, it beats Provo hands down, however, Provo has more business development happening currently with the recent 7 story Wells Fargo Center and 9 story Zions Bank FC. Supposedly, through a private/public (city helping) partnership, the University tower will break ground within the next year or two and will be an 11 story office building and adjoining condos. At that point, I think Provo's downtown really starts to take off and would be second to DT SLC in the state of Utah.

Provo has the momentum.
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Ten-stories? I thought it was going to be Nine-stories? I counted Nine floors on the latest rendering.
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Provo is getting its convention center and there is a rumor that Marriott may be rebuilding its property on Center St next to the CC and increase it's height from 9 to 12 stories. It is also rumored that a second hotel will be built in close proximity to the downtown cc (Hilton?)

I like Ogden's downtown, a lot. From an historic architectural standpoint, it beats Provo hands down, however, Provo has more business development happening currently with the recent 7 story Wells Fargo Center and 9 story Zions Bank FC. Supposedly, through a private/public (city helping) partnership, the University tower will break ground within the next year or two and will be an 11 story office building and adjoining condos. At that point, I think Provo's downtown really starts to take off and would be second to DT SLC in the state of Utah.

Provo has the momentum.
I agree somewhat. Still, there's a lot more to a downtown than just office buildings. Ogden, especially along the 3 block stretch of 25th street, has way more going on - cafe's, restaurants, etc. They also have things going on all the time at the city building and amphitheater area. It can be quite a vibrant place. That's where Provo needs to improve.
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Perhaps, some of the Provo leadership needs to get past the assumption that downtown/urban living is somehow inherently sub-standard or a little less than morally ideal.
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Corridor open house set for Wednesday

LEHI — Residents can learn more about the Mountain View Corridor project at 2100 North at an open house Wednesday from 6-8 p.m. at the Lehi Legacy Recreation Center, 123 N. Center.

Brief project presentations will be given at 6:30 and 7:30 p.m.

The Mountain View Corridor will run along the western side of Salt Lake and Utah counties — from Interstate 80 to Lehi Main Street. A side project is the creation of 2100 North in Lehi, which will connect Redwood Road to the 1200 West exit of Interstate 15.

"There's a partial existing road, and we're going to take that existing road and extend it out to Redwood Road," Utah Department of Transportation spokesman Scott Thompson said.

At the open house, the public can learn about construction, schedules, detours and impacts.

Construction on the corridor will begin in November.

— Laura Hancock, The Deseret News
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Paper company looks to expand in Utah County


http://www.heraldextra.com/news/local/article_dc5c58ee-d6d4-557b-8327-e6188ead63ab.html

A privateley held paper products company from New York may be close to announcing plans to come to Utah County, bringing up to 250 jobs in its initial build-out...

...The Project, when fully built out, is expected to create between 1000 and 1250 jobs...

What makes Utah attractive is its location as a distribution point for the company, access to rail and Interstate 15, a strong labor force, and available land and other resources, he said...

...The potential of having a paper products company in southern Utah County is also atracting several other businesses to locate there, including a natural resources company and a manufacturer, Ellertson said.

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Perhaps, some of the Provo leadership needs to get past the assumption that downtown/urban living is somehow inherently sub-standard or a little less than morally ideal.
With the new Zion's downtown, Convention Center, and probably additional hotel in the works, and perhaps University Tower, and the fact that Provo is getting pretty filled out, I could see it start to develop more residential downtown as it will have become a much more dynamic place.
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Leaders remain mum on rumored Utah County plant

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705333828/Leaders-mum-on-Utah-Co-plant.html

PROVO — County leaders maintained their silence Thursday regarding an apparently planned paper plant for southwestern Utah County, while calling a press conference to instead explain how the area has been planned for future growth.

Up to 750,000 people could someday live in the Goshen Valley now accessed by U.S. 6 and state Route 68, Utah County Commissioner Larry Ellertson said...

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more bridge crap!

Someone please kill this idea fast! Someone please tell these unwise citizens that they can't expect the government to bail them out!

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705333815/Bridge-debate-creates-waves.html
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the bridge across utah lake to support sprawl is the most absurd thing I've ever seen...
If you don't like your 90 minute commute.. move to provo
I realize the wasatch front is disconnected in many ways due to natural terrain.. but seriously.. this is ridiculous.. the cost of a bridge could build numerous urban projects in provo orem...

the comparisons between ogden and provo are interesting.. I've expressed my opinions in the past that ogden is by far the one with real potential.. and this is a prime example.. Provo may be getting more businesses and jobs but projects like this bridge actually being considered shows to me they have no interest in creating a dense urban fabric.. they simply wish to accomodate the status quo(sprawl) in order to support the new businesses
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Hopefully the public opinion trend toward continuation of the restoration and protection of the Lake will keep building. This attitude by certain developers that because a million people will someday occupy the Cedar Valley and therefore the bridge is a no brainer, shows nothing but narrow mindedness and probably a lot of self serving profit potential for their development companies.

There is more than enough room for growth south of Provo to support a vibrant and impressive CBD in Provo itself. I don't argue the point that Cedar Valley will grow, but it should be planned in such a way as to be connected with a more natural hub, such as Eagle Mountain and Saratoga Springs themselves, or even Lehi, NOT PROVO!

I would definitely consider living on the West side of Utah Lake. The view lots and lakeside lots are stunning. But, if I were to take a job in Provo, no one should feel compelled to accomodate me because of my commute. If I take a job in Provo then I should live in Provo, or at the very least, somewhere to the immediate south, such as Springville or Spanish Fork, where there is a large amount beautiful views and affordable housing. It's like a big DUH. This is simply developers with visions of big profits dancing in their greedy heads.

Each day some 4 to 6 health care workers visit our home in order to assist in taking care of my Father. Almost all of these professionals live in the Saratoga Springs/Eagle Mountain area. There only complaint is being taken care of, and that is to accomodate the traffic in and around the immediate area. This means better access to I-15 and various surface streets in their immediate surroundings. Not one of them feels compelled to have easier access to Provo. All of their work is in the North Utah Valley/South Salt Lake Valley area.

I realize that city leaders in Provo and Orem are going to have to be a little more creative with their commercial growth plans for the future, without a direct bridge across Utah Lake. But the attractive living of Utah Valley is greatly enchanced for the future, if we treat Utah Lake with the utmost respect for it's potential beauty, not by scarring it with a disgusting overpass.

Would we put a freeway through Little Cottonwood Canyon, so that Heber Valley developers can have a heyday with their new found easy access to Salt Lake Valley???

If the population of Cedar Valley becomes so big that a corridor UNDER the Lake makes sense, then so be it. Let's think about that point for the future, when a tunnel would be justified. Until then, our concern should be how to continue restoring Utah Lake to it's true potential. Utah Valley should continue to reach for it's potential as arguably one of a handful of the most beautifully located metroscapes in the world, not the easiest ways to profit off of and consequently despoil it's beauty. CEO's and their high tech minnions should want to live in Utah Valley because of it's incredible beauty, not because they can live in Cedar Valley and commute to Provo.


You don't have to be a tree hugger or a card carrying environmentalist to realize that an overpass is out of place here.

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Utah County looks to Goshen Valley for extra space

or better yet:

The "LDS" mormon church along with it's followers in Government positions and UDOT (of course) promote unethical sprawl for financial gain:

...The development plan, which the county drafted in co-operation with the Mountainland Association of Governments and the Utah Department of Transportation, encompasses 60,000 acres on the west side of Utah Lake. If the area were in Salt Lake County, it would stretch from North Temple Street in Salt Lake City down to Draper.
About one-third of the property is owned by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, which operates welfare farms. County officials say the church fully supports the development efforts, which simplifies the process as there are fewer landowners to deal with.

http://www.sltrib.com/slc/ci_13505691

Looks like the "Green" and "Sustainable" in the City Creek Center concept was a PR campaign after all.
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I'm not necessarily defending it, but with the location of the proposed new manufacturing facility included in that planning area. It will provide a community to live and work for those that work at the plant or in support businesses.

Yes I know someone will argue that the new manufacturing facility could be built somewhere else, but that is the site the manufacturer wanted because it has certain characteristics that they demanded in a site.

The manufacturing facility will employ upwards of 1500 individuals if I am not mistaken and will be a clean facility. While it will manufacture paper type products it will be post refinement manufacturing and the "raw" materials will be shipped in on-time manufacturing mostly by train.

Again I am not arguing for or against said master plan, but with the facility it is providing housing opportunities for those that will be employed there, reducing the impact on other streets and reduce emissions due to less travel. And while it is in essence a new town or population center the lay out of the plan is very much along the lines of new urbanism and includes an extensive trail system, extensive transit system(UTA has been involved with the planning efforts as well) and has several commercial nodes that promote walkability.

Dealing myself with the issues of attempting to effectively and ethically create a master plan for a yet to be developed area, while promoting preservation and open space efforts, transit and transportation needs, retail needs, while not taking away rights of property owners I can see why the county is on board in a sense because planning with one or two property owners is so much easier and the property owner sees the big picture (like Kennecott land) as opposed to each property owner only seeing their 1 acre or 10 acre universe.
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Utah County looks to Goshen Valley for extra space

or better yet:

The "LDS" mormon church along with it's followers in Government positions and UDOT (of course) promote unethical sprawl for financial gain:

Looks like the "Green" and "Sustainable" in the City Creek Center concept was a PR campaign after all.
Please don't shout like this. And, please don't exaggurate or generalize against the LDS church. I understand what you are upset about, and I believe that there are a lot in the LDS church in Utah, who do not understand the adverse affects of sprawl. The LDS church does not get into environmental or political policies at church. I do know, since I am LDS, that they believe that it is everyone's responsibility 'to be good stewards of the land'. Some just don't understand or have the education regarding the specifics of what that means. And, it doesn't mean that the LDS church as a whole is greedy and environmentally unfriendly either. I do symphathize with what you are saying, and would want to do something to deter this bad spread of development regardless of who owns the land.

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