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Old Posted Sep 25, 2009, 6:04 AM
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dont forget it would also have a awesome transit connection
making it more likely to pull people in
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at least it would help spur the 80 storey development!!!
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Why not do both?

I don't like the other two locations. I'm not sure what the existing casino in Newton is like, but I'd bet that it is pretty seedy. I don't like the 8th ave @ 168 street proposal due to its proximity (inclusion?) to the ALR, as well as the promotion of sprawl across highway 99 in South Surrey/White Rock. I don't see the problem with having a casino close to a university and shopping. University students aren't stupid, and don't have any money to 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 anyways! Centralization of services is a good thing, not a bad thing.

God forbid a university be close to shopping and entertainment! Next thing you know, they'll start trying to put pubs on university campuses! All universities should be far away on mountains and in forests!
I think the existing casino is actually a bingo hall is it not?
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Old Posted Sep 25, 2009, 6:39 AM
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yeah it is and it use to be a casino before too i believe
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i think a casino would be much better then the mall they orginally were planing
What they need to do is to build the Berezan mall, then connect it underground and over top of KGH with Central City Mall. Give Metrotown a run for it's money as THE shopping place to be

I'm a big fan of almost anything that'll help get the Berezan complex moving along, and a casino would fit in nicely with the mulit-star hotel that'll be a part of that complex.
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Here are some updated pictures of the Olympic wrapping of the Central City Tower.



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Nice!
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^ I thought that was a render at first.
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I've been watching the progress every day. If they continue at the same rate, they'll probably be done this side by next Wednesday, then hopefully they'll start the other side right away. It's looking pretty good - it would look better if Central City 2 was already built and wrapped in Olympic decor as well...
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i think it would be nice to add something to station tower too
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i think it would be nice to add something to station tower too
That's a great idea - they should have olympic wrap around the Gateway station tower, especially since it's almost right beside the new olympic training facility. I wonder if it's been suggested yet to the city...
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I guess the 🞵🞵🞵 in the woods people are happy

Surrey rejects Bear Creek Park road

City councillors in Surrey, B.C. voted against pushing a new four-lane road through Bear Creek Park, after several hundred opponents of the plan showed up at Monday night's council meeting.

The vocal crowd filled the council chambers and spilled into the adjoining foyer, prompting Coun. Tom Gill to reflect on the public mood before the final vote.

"My heart changed earlier in the evening," said Gill, referring to a previous council discussion of the issue. "I was described as a lion going into the meeting and coming out as a lamb."

City staff proposed the road through the park to ease congestion at the nearby intersection of 88th Avenue and King George Highway, east of Vancouver.

But opponents of the road said it would threaten a salmon-bearing stream and reduce habitat for the birds and animals that call the two-hectare park home.

In the end, councillors elected to reject the new road by a vote of eight to one.

"We need to find different solutions for this problem and take everything into consideration," said Mayor Dianne Watts, who opposed the plan from the beginning, despite the staff recommendation.

Monday was the fourth time the concept for a road at 84th Avenue and King George Highway has come to council. Opponents say the urban green space needs to be protected permanently, so the idea won't surface again.

"We are happy about the decision, but we are disappointed that this matter has not been laid to rest," said Sayaka Nelson, a member of Friends of Bear Creek Park.

The group plans to hold a community meeting Oct. 16, Nelson said.

City councillors in Surrey, B.C. voted against pushing a new four-lane road through Bear Creek Park, after several hundred opponents of the plan showed up at Monday night's council meeting.

The vocal crowd filled the council chambers and spilled into the adjoining foyer, prompting Coun. Tom Gill to reflect on the public mood before the final vote.

"My heart changed earlier in the evening," said Gill, referring to a previous council discussion of the issue. "I was described as a lion going into the meeting and coming out as a lamb."

City staff proposed the road through the park to ease congestion at the nearby intersection of 88th Avenue and King George Highway, east of Vancouver.

But opponents of the road said it would threaten a salmon-bearing stream and reduce habitat for the birds and animals that call the two-hectare park home.

In the end, councillors elected to reject the new road by a vote of eight to one.

"We need to find different solutions for this problem and take everything into consideration," said Mayor Dianne Watts, who opposed the plan from the beginning, despite the staff recommendation.

Monday was the fourth time the concept for a road at 84th Avenue and King George Highway has come to council. Opponents say the urban green space needs to be protected permanently, so the idea won't surface again.

"We are happy about the decision, but we are disappointed that this matter has not been laid to rest," said Sayaka Nelson, a member of Friends of Bear Creek Park.

The group plans to hold a community meeting Oct. 16, Nelson said.
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Old Posted Oct 7, 2009, 5:27 AM
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Excellent news. It 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 that 84th has such potential for a major through-road. It is amazing that there isn't a major road for 16 blocks (Surrey-sized) south of 88th! No wonder it is so busy. The next best option involves a massive expropriation to extend 80th ave, but that would cost tens of millions.
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Excellent news. It 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵 that 84th has such potential for a major through-road. It is amazing that there isn't a major road for 16 blocks (Surrey-sized) south of 88th! No wonder it is so busy. The next best option involves a massive expropriation to extend 80th ave, but that would cost tens of millions.
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&source...22.816763&spn=0.030485,0.092182&t=h&z=14

that area really gets a mess in rush hour........84 makes the MOST sense though.......also the looks of it 80th can only be extended between King George and 140th......
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Old Posted Oct 7, 2009, 7:55 AM
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i find it stupid how people were so against it cause now if they make and under pass of 88th it makes a huge gap where people will just fly down king george.
smart move idiots....sure this is gonna be the safer move for all of us....

Personally id' rather see more money put to 80th and built out anyways. Sure it will cost alot more but its better since its between both 72nd and 88th. Also it goes all the way out to 200th street. also if i saw right on the news i saw something about 80th being expended to hwy 91
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I suppose if it were needed badly enough, they could make it a tunnel and go under the park.
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Old Posted Oct 7, 2009, 8:14 AM
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yeah right they whine how its damaging things still
man should have start a pro 84 extension to fight those idiots against it

oh well just gonna have to keep up hope surrey will work on extending 80th now
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I can't really call them all "NIMBY morons" since I agree with part of their sentiment: leave the park alone unless it's really needed.
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I am a bit on the fence on this one here you have two scenarios:

1) You put through 84th through the park, which naturally leads from Nordel Way to Fraser Highway. You fill in the gaps which means expropriating parts of Newton and Bear Creek Park. This corridor is mainly residential, which I do not agree making a main street. You piss off environmentalists and residents with this option.

2) You put through 80th, which does not connect to Nordel but would naturally lead (almost) all the way to Highway One. There are HUGE gaps in Surrey long this location and it is mainly residential. This route also goes over Bear Creek and the greenway. You again piss off environmentalists and residents.

I honestly think that the best solution to the situation is to upgrade 88th. It is a main street and should be expanded to handle the capacity. Unfortunately there is no real east-west highway route north of Highway 10 (56th Ave) and 88th has naturally filled the void and has been upgraded over the years to meet capacity (88th to Nordel realignment). Upgrade it to 3 lanes each way, including separate left/right turn lanes and advanced warnings for light changes and you will make it much safer for everyone.
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I do wonder when the SFPR is finished. If the traffic on 88th will be a bad as it is now. Considering once the SFPR is completed you won't have to go up nordel and along 88th to get to the 152, 176, and Hwy 1.

In fact if Surrey is smart they will remove the truck route status of 88th and force the bigger trucks onto the SFPR.
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