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Old Posted Oct 2, 2009, 11:13 AM
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Balsillie's focus turns to family, company

October 02, 2009
Ken Peters
The Hamilton Spectator
http://www.thespec.com/News/Local/article/645926

Jim Balsillie is out of the Hamilton hockey market.

A Balsillie spokesperson told The Spectator yesterday the Waterloo billionaire is stepping back from his National Hockey League pursuits to focus on his Research In Motion business.

"He and his family have been through a lot, and his choice now is for a graceful exit," said Bob Reid. "This path has come to an end, and he's going to move forward managing one of the world's most successful businesses.

"Never say never again ... but certainly (it's) the end of this effort and for the foreseeable future."

He said Balsillie was in Hamilton Wednesday night shortly after a court rejected his bid to buy and relocate the Phoenix Coyotes to Hamilton. He was at the Tragically Hip concert at Hamilton Place.

Meanwhile, NHL deputy commissioner Bill Daly said that while there is league interest in the Hamilton market, the league is not planning to make any moves.

"We are always interested in areas and markets that are excited to support NHL hockey. And we have little doubt that Hamilton is one of them. Hamilton and the southern Ontario region will continue to be on our radar screen, but we remain committed to our current markets.'"

Balsillie's pursuit of the Coyotes closed when an Arizona bankruptcy court rejected his $242.5-million bid.

Balsillie announced immediately he would not appeal the decision.

Balsillie was rejected by the NHL in 2006 and 2007 in his bids to secure and relocate the Pittsburgh Penguins and Nashville Predators here. The latest round included the NHL directly attacking his character and integrity.

Richard Powers, associate dean and executive director of the Joseph L. Rotman School of Management at the University of Toronto, believes it's three strikes and out for Balsillie.

"Yes (Balsillie is out of the game). As long as (Gary) Bettman is there," said Powers of the NHL commissioner, who has been personally critical of the prospective Hamilton owner.

Mayor Fred Eisenberger was hoping to have a private chat with Balsillie yesterday to thank him for his efforts on the city's behalf.

Eisenberger acknowledged he will try to convince the publicity shy Balsillie to attend a public function in the city to give Hamilton hockey fans a chance to show their support and appreciation for his efforts to bring a team here.

Balsillie's lease pact for Copps Coliseum is set to expire in two weeks. Eisenberger said once that happens, he will begin working the phones in a bid to attract another NHL suitor. He also believes Balsillie has left Hamilton as the focus for a future franchise.

"I have no doubt about that. There have been other suitors that we have had discussions with. We know there is interest and we will continue to pursue that interest.

"I think Jim's work in terms of highlighting the viability of hockey in this market and the interest of hockey in this market indicates people are very excited about this opportunity and would support a team coming to Hamilton. I think he has done a spectacular job and service to our community."

Indeed, the NHL acknowledged during the five-month bankruptcy hearing that a Hamilton team would be the fifth best in terms of league marketability and would be successful.

Powers agrees Balsillie's efforts have put a second Greater Toronto Area team on the league radar.

"I think the case has been made. The case is there. There is a very strong market here, the research, everything suggests that southern Ontario, whether it's Hamilton or Toronto, can and will eventually support another team."

Powers also believes the chances of Hamilton landing a franchise are 50-50. The lack of a corporate base here hurts the chances. And the second obstacle is the Toronto Maple Leafs.

"They still hold out that they have the veto," Powers said. "It certainly has to be a factor. Everyone has been silent about it."

Powers noted Ottawa Senators' owner Eugene Melnyk suggested recently he believes a Leafs' veto is in effect.

Richard Peddie, president of Maple Leafs Sports and Entertainment Ltd., was unavailable for comment yesterday.

But the NHL has contended that no individual team owns a veto.

"Let's get that issue on the table," Powers said.

Powers said the City of Hamilton must avoid making disparaging remarks about the NHL while signalling to potential investors that the Copps Coliseum doors will soon be open for business.
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We are lucky to live in a city where you can see great quality hockey for a reasonable price - the Hamilton Bulldogs.
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Balsillie's lease pact for Copps Coliseum is set to expire in two weeks. Eisenberger said once that happens, he will begin working the phones in a bid to attract another NHL suitor. He also believes Balsillie has left Hamilton as the focus for a future franchise.

"I have no doubt about that. There have been other suitors that we have had discussions with. We know there is interest and we will continue to pursue that interest.
I hope something comes of this. It's important to not let this issue die while at the same time showing there's other interested parties in bringing a team to Hamilton. Balsillie may have opened the door for others to come forward.
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We are lucky to live in a city where you can see great quality hockey for a reasonable price - the Hamilton Bulldogs.
It's great that we do have them, but I can't watch hockey at this level. It's not NHL. Things like the number of missed passes just send me over the edge.

Then again, watching tonight's Leafs game is not much better. But I'll take the "most professional" hockey I can get at this point, because first and foremost, I love the game of hockey and want to see it played well.
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Old Posted Oct 4, 2009, 3:13 AM
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Then again, watching any Leafs game is not much better.
I corrected your error above
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Old Posted Oct 4, 2009, 3:48 AM
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My mistake But I'll still take the Leafs for now. I don't want to. I'd much rather have a better team, and a local team. But that's the choice I have, and with the Leafs at least I'm screaming at the TV every two minutes instead of every thirty seconds...

Although when games like the Calgary-Edmonton one on now start, I'll ditch the whole "local" thing entirely. But I'm not buying tickets to any of 'em.
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Boycott

http://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/article/60198

Those are the official sponsors of the NHL. The boycott is on.

As seen with the WHL saga, the NHL is a stubborn, stubborn lot.

They will not change. They need change FORCED upon them.
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Old Posted Oct 4, 2009, 4:58 PM
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I don't think boycotting those companies/products will make much of a difference since the decrease in sales will be a drop in the bucket.

I think it's much more simple and effective to just boycott either both MLSE/Sabres or the NHL overall as it's a much bigger drop in their small bucket.

Everyone who wants another team in Southern Ontario should:

- cancel LeafsTV and let them know why.
- call CBC, TSN and Sportsnet and tell them you'd rather watch another team play instead of the Leafs or just no hockey at all - and let them know why
- not buy NHL merchandise like jerseys and even NHL videogames
- not go to Leafs or Sabres games
- not go to concerts at the ACC or HSBC arena

I know someone who wants a team in Hamilton, but still went to the Sabres game last night. Stuff like that pisses me off. Canadians are much too passive and don't seem to have any backbone. We just accept things as they are. It's amazing how much power each person has when you vote with your wallet.

I still hope Balsillie (or anyone) would open state of the art venue that will take away concerts/events from the ACC and MLSE. This would piss them off so much, yet they can't do anything to stop it. Try to VETO that, 🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵🞵!
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Old Posted Oct 4, 2009, 5:29 PM
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I think if you feel that strongly about this you should do whatever you think is best and most effective.

Yes, what you are suggesting is awesome. I'm in. But why stop there? Isn't it easy for you to change beer brands? Isn't it easy to use your Mastercard instead of your visa? Let's do EVERYTHING we can. It isn't too much of an inconvenience. Keep it legal, tell your friends ect.

Like I said earlier, boycotting products seemed to have worked in the past.

http://books.google.ca/books?id=FHMWR63P...ccessful%20boycott%20of%20molson&f=false

If enough people think that way, then we will get what we want. If it doesn't get enough support we did our best.
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I hope something comes of this. It's important to not let this issue die while at the same time showing there's other interested parties in bringing a team to Hamilton. Balsillie may have opened the door for others to come forward.
Break ice with NHL, city told

October 03, 2009
Ken Peters
The Hamilton Spectator
http://www.thespec.com/News/Local/article/646758

The City of Hamilton needs to play nice with the National Hockey League if it wants a franchise.

So says NHL deputy commissioner Bill Daly.

He said he has no intention of giving Hamilton leaders advice.

"But I would try to cultivate a longer term relationship with the league as opposed to aligning with persons who want to work around league processes and procedures," Daly said.

Hamilton NHL fans suffered yet another rejection this week when an Arizona bankruptcy court flatly rejected Jim Balsillie's bid to buy and relocate the Phoenix Coyotes.

Daly said the league message to Hamilton hockey fans is a simple one: "We admire and respect their passion for the sport and maybe at some point in the future they will have their own franchise."

Hamilton Councillor Terry Whitehead, chair of the city's NHL steering committee, wants the league to explain the game rules the city should follow for a franchise.

"Is there an opportunity to cultivate a relationship with the NHL?" he asked. "How do we go about doing that and how long is it going to take?"

Hamilton was rejected for NHL expansion teams in 1990 and 1997 and watched as Balsillie's relocation bids were foiled in 2006, 2007 and this week.

Daly said the NHL is "generally" aware of Vancouver property developer Tom Gaglardi's efforts to buy and relocate the Atlanta Thrashers here but added "we have not been in contact with Mr. Gaglardi."
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I do not know enough about this Gaglardi story to have any confidence in it.

I still believe that Hamilton's best hope lies with Jim Balsillie. To that end, I noticed that someone just posted a link on Make It Seven to a petition requesting that the NHL show Mr. Balsillie the front door: http://welovejim.ca. I don't know if this petition will amount to much but it seems to make a reasonable request.
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Break ice with NHL, city told

October 03, 2009
Ken Peters
The Hamilton Spectator
http://www.thespec.com/News/Local/article/646758

The City of Hamilton needs to play nice with the National Hockey League if it wants a franchise.

So says NHL deputy commissioner Bill Daly.

He said he has no intention of giving Hamilton leaders advice.

"But I would try to cultivate a longer term relationship with the league as opposed to aligning with persons who want to work around league processes and procedures," Daly said.

Hamilton NHL fans suffered yet another rejection this week when an Arizona bankruptcy court flatly rejected Jim Balsillie's bid to buy and relocate the Phoenix Coyotes.

Daly said the league message to Hamilton hockey fans is a simple one: "We admire and respect their passion for the sport and maybe at some point in the future they will have their own franchise."

Hamilton Councillor Terry Whitehead, chair of the city's NHL steering committee, wants the league to explain the game rules the city should follow for a franchise.

"Is there an opportunity to cultivate a relationship with the NHL?" he asked. "How do we go about doing that and how long is it going to take?"

Hamilton was rejected for NHL expansion teams in 1990 and 1997 and watched as Balsillie's relocation bids were foiled in 2006, 2007 and this week.

Daly said the NHL is "generally" aware of Vancouver property developer Tom Gaglardi's efforts to buy and relocate the Atlanta Thrashers here but added "we have not been in contact with Mr. Gaglardi."
How Do you know when Bill Daly is lying? A: When he opens his mouth.

Long term relationship? What the hell does that mean for a city that doesn't have a team.

You admire and respect passion? Another lie.

Seriously Daly, stop lying, you are quite bad at it and getting worse.
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I do not know enough about this Gaglardi story to have any confidence in it.

I still believe that Hamilton's best hope lies with Jim Balsillie. To that end, I noticed that someone just posted a link on Make It Seven to a petition requesting that the NHL show Mr. Balsillie the front door: http://welovejim.ca. I don't know if this petition will amount to much but it seems to make a reasonable request.
A thank you card for Jim: http://thankyoujim.com
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I'm going to believe what Grapes said. Hamilton will get an expansion franchise and not a relocation. Why? Because the NHL could charge a new owner $400-500 million for an expansion team.

A relocation team can be picked up for half and moved here and the NHL loses a couple hundred million. Because they know they would have no problem selling a new team in this market.
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If Phoenix (or a another southern dog) is losing 40 million a year, then by my estimate, the team is worth in the neighbourhood of -400 million at that location... which is similar to the expansion fee mentioned above.

With revenue sharing, all the owners will feel that.

I don't know if the BOG want to relocate, or if they would rather to throw all losing owners under a bus for their failed strategy, like they did to Moyes.

The difficulty to find buyers in pheonix, a major league franchise, has shown that the smart money knows better than to invest in the NHL.

Even with recent previous deals, fraudulent and sketchy money was at work.
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Terry Whitehead revealed that he talked to Gary Bettman during this week on the phone. Mayor Fred didn't like that.
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Don't take my word for this but it looks like the NHL (Bettman) is searching for an owner for a Hamilton franchise. Guess this is there way of controlling a Hamilton franchise.
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Steeltown, I'm not quite clear. Do you sense it or is this coming from somewhere?

If so where!?
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No offense to Steeltown or anyone else but after everything that has happened, I'm taking everything with a metric ton of salt unless I see some official quotes.
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