HomeDiagramsDatabaseMapsForum About
     

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Discussion Forums > Buildings & Architecture > Completed Project Threads Archive


 

 
Thread Tools Display Modes
     
     
  #3941  
Old Posted Sep 29, 2009, 3:11 PM
WSH WSH is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Bay Area
Posts: 14
Will the roof/ antenna of this ever be lit up???
     
     
  #3942  
Old Posted Sep 30, 2009, 12:19 AM
JSsocal JSsocal is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 717
The only lighting we have seen are the horizontal strips that ran vertically up the "atrium," for lack of a better term, and those lights have been disabled for a long time.

Here's the picture, taken by Coolczech last year (boy it's been long).
     
     
  #3943  
Old Posted Sep 30, 2009, 4:47 PM
plinko's Avatar
plinko plinko is offline
them bones
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Santa Barbara adjacent
Posts: 7,712
I was at the top of the ESB on Monday night and it was really strange to look at a structure in Midtown and not have to look down. That spire is huge!
     
     
  #3944  
Old Posted Oct 1, 2009, 3:20 AM
NYguy's Avatar
NYguy NYguy is offline
New Yorker for life
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Borough of Jersey
Posts: 57,260
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601093&sid=at7G.3YyKhRQ

Bank of America Tower’s Aureole Serves Pastrami, $180 Pairing



Review by Ryan Sutton
Sept. 30 (Bloomberg)

Bank of America Corp. Chief Executive Officer Kenneth Lewis, who paid $2.5 billion for Countrywide Financial Corp. and $29 billion for Merrill Lynch & Co., can now enjoy a $180 Krug champagne-paired tasting menu in the company “cafeteria” at the base of its new $1 billion Manhattan skyscraper.

Or he could save money and order some pastrami in the same joint. My advice: Get the pastrami.


Welcome to Aureole -- not really a mess hall. Charlie Palmer has relocated the fine-dining gem of his restaurant empire from a townhouse on the quiet Upper East Side to a heavily trafficked stretch on the edge of Times Square. That means tourists, Conde Nast editors and bankers who drop in from upstairs.

And since bankers aren’t eating as lavishly as they used to, there’s a new casual component to the restaurant: a bar room up front with pork-belly pastrami sliders. They’re slathered with Russian dressing that cuts through the fatty spiced meat.

I’d recommend these little $15 sandwiches to Lewis, even though a chief executive may prefer to indulge in a square $180 meal every now and then (It’s $115 without wine). But that supper, just like billion-dollar acquisitions, needs to offer value. This one doesn’t.

It’s a parallel tasting menu. Fish eggs are prepared two ways: Sun trout roe, atop a bland mound of crab, explodes into a briny bliss; the second dish, American caviar, nearly disappears amid a horseradish creme fraiche sauce.

Culinary Redundancy

Flatfish comes two ways too: Dover sole is speckled with brilliant hints of slightly sweet, slightly musty champagne grapes; Atlantic gray sole is fried to a flavorless crisp, Gorton’s fish-stick style.

Course three is red meat, yet again, two ways: A slice of duck breast and a slice of underseared dry-aged strip steak. You eat the duck first, which is a mistake, since your beef is now cold. You’re still hungry after the minuscule portions. So you fill up on course four: cheesecake two ways, one with ricotta, the other with blue cheese. No wonder America keeps getting fatter.

Chef Christopher Lee, who led Midtown’s Gilt to two- Michelin stars, is to blame for this expensive experiment; Adam Tihany, the designer, is to blame for the interiors. The low dining-room ceiling does little to remind you you’re in Manhattan’s second-tallest building.

Cacophony

Tables are cramped -- the rear ends of waiters can hover dangerously close to your face. Raucous businessmen can raise the sound to unbearable levels. Refuse to sit at a table near the bar room: A lack of doors separating the spaces results in cacophony.

The fare is billed as progressive American. Here’s what that means: Christopher Lee takes excellent ingredients and manipulates the flavor out of them.

Take the diver scallops, on the three-course, $84 prix- fixe. The bivalves are typically seared on the outside and left rare inside. But Lee sees a need to deconstruct where no one else does. His textureless scallop is topped with a crunchy disk, with overseared foie gras thrown on top to make things fancy. A good scallop is complex. Lee’s is complicated.

Remoulade, tasty on its own, is disassembled into sour little purees of shallots, cornichons and lemon. Don’t let the misplaced molecular gastronomy touch your soft-shell crab. Lee also takes mirin, a Japanese cooking wine, and whips it into foam that mimics the taste of shaving cream.

Haute Office Fare

Like Nissin’s “Cup Noodles’’? Lee goes through all the effort to recreate the signature mushy pasta and thin broth of the $1 office snack. Cost: $25 for the pork-belly noodle bowl at lunch. The $19 bar burger is a mix of expertly aged beef overwhelmed by a ramp dressing; the sweet sauce is a ringer for the “special sauce” at McDonald’s.

The food’s not all bad. Short ribs inject a welcome hint of beefiness into a sweet carrot soup. Tuna Wellington is a clever, hearty interplay of soft dough and softer, rare fish. And perhaps a man like Lewis can afford a bad meal or two to find the winning dishes here. But the rest of us cannot.

Rating: *
The Bloomberg Questions

Cost? Prix-fixe at $84, $115. A la carte at bar room.

Sound level? Unusually loud for fine dining.

Date place? No. It says you’re trying too hard.

Inside tip? Eat at the bar; skip the stuffy dining room.

Special feature? Excellent value $65 wine pairing.

Private room? Yes.

Will I be back? For the pastrami sliders and wine.

Aureole is at 135 West 42nd St. in the Bank of America Tower. Information: +1-212-319-1660; http://www.charliepalmer.com
     
     
  #3945  
Old Posted Oct 1, 2009, 7:44 PM
YSL YSL is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Austin
Posts: 358
Why is this building listed as 881' ft to the roof? Isn't it 945 feet to the roof?
     
     
  #3946  
Old Posted Oct 1, 2009, 8:18 PM
CHAPINM1's Avatar
CHAPINM1 CHAPINM1 is offline
JoeCooper
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Guam
Posts: 1,414
Quote:
Originally Posted by YSL View Post
Why is this building listed as 881' ft to the roof? Isn't it 945 feet to the roof?
Yeah no kidding, it's been bothering the hell out of me as well! I have no idea what whoever put the 881' figure was thinking... Even specific moderators will agree that it's the wrong figure.
     
     
  #3947  
Old Posted Oct 1, 2009, 8:22 PM
JSsocal JSsocal is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 717
^^^It's listed as 881' to the roof because it is 881' to the roof. It is 945 feet to the very top of the glass on the tower.
     
     
  #3948  
Old Posted Oct 1, 2009, 8:25 PM
CHAPINM1's Avatar
CHAPINM1 CHAPINM1 is offline
JoeCooper
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Guam
Posts: 1,414
Quote:
Originally Posted by JSsocal View Post
^^^It's listed as 881' to the roof because it is 881' to the roof. It is 945 feet to the very top of the glass on the tower.
Still, 945 feet should be listed.
     
     
  #3949  
Old Posted Oct 1, 2009, 9:03 PM
YSL YSL is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Austin
Posts: 358
Quote:
Originally Posted by CHAPINM1 View Post
Still, 945 feet should be listed.
The official roof height is 945 ft, and the official total height is 1,200ft.

That 881 title really bothers me as well! Someone please correct that!!
     
     
  #3950  
Old Posted Oct 2, 2009, 3:59 PM
plinko's Avatar
plinko plinko is offline
them bones
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Santa Barbara adjacent
Posts: 7,712
a few random close-ups I took while walking down 5th Avenue on Monday morning...nothing special...











     
     
  #3951  
Old Posted Oct 2, 2009, 9:56 PM
NYguy's Avatar
NYguy NYguy is offline
New Yorker for life
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Borough of Jersey
Posts: 57,260
^ Great shots.


Quote:
Originally Posted by YSL View Post
Why is this building listed as 881' ft to the roof? Isn't it 945 feet to the roof?
Yes it is. Roof height is listed as to the top of the parapet, like on any other tower.
     
     
  #3952  
Old Posted Oct 3, 2009, 12:53 AM
americanskyscraper22's Avatar
americanskyscraper22 americanskyscraper22 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 90
can this be clearly seen from the top of the rock, and i dont just mean the antenna
     
     
  #3953  
Old Posted Oct 3, 2009, 1:38 AM
NEWyorkSKYSCRAPER NEWyorkSKYSCRAPER is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 15
Does anyone know when this tower is going to be officially completed?
     
     
  #3954  
Old Posted Oct 3, 2009, 8:19 AM
NYCLuver's Avatar
NYCLuver NYCLuver is offline
Astorian
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: New York City
Posts: 764
Quote:
Originally Posted by NEWyorkSKYSCRAPER View Post
Does anyone know when this tower is going to be officially completed?
Scheduled to be completed early next year I believe.
     
     
  #3955  
Old Posted Oct 3, 2009, 12:39 PM
NYguy's Avatar
NYguy NYguy is offline
New Yorker for life
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Borough of Jersey
Posts: 57,260
Quote:
Originally Posted by americanskyscraper22 View Post
can this be clearly seen from the top of the rock, and i dont just mean the antenna
There's only about a million photos of that in this thread. (And it doesn't have an antenna).
     
     
  #3956  
Old Posted Oct 3, 2009, 12:54 PM
NYguy's Avatar
NYguy NYguy is offline
New Yorker for life
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Borough of Jersey
Posts: 57,260
     
     
  #3957  
Old Posted Oct 4, 2009, 12:03 AM
NYguy's Avatar
NYguy NYguy is offline
New Yorker for life
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Borough of Jersey
Posts: 57,260
     
     
  #3958  
Old Posted Oct 4, 2009, 11:10 PM
THE BIG APPLE's Avatar
THE BIG APPLE THE BIG APPLE is offline
Khurram Parvaz
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: NEW YORK
Posts: 2,401
     
     
  #3959  
Old Posted Oct 7, 2009, 12:01 AM
Zapatan Zapatan is offline
DENNAB
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: NY - Cali
Posts: 6,845
Quote:
Originally Posted by YSL View Post
The official roof height is 945 ft, and the official total height is 1,200ft.

That 881 title really bothers me as well! Someone please correct that!!

The total floor count is also 57, not 53 someone please correct that

Great building btw, just huge
     
     
  #3960  
Old Posted Oct 7, 2009, 9:58 PM
americanskyscraper22's Avatar
americanskyscraper22 americanskyscraper22 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 90
Quote:
Originally Posted by NYguy View Post
There's only about a million photos of that in this thread. (And it doesn't have an antenna).
thanks for the info, and i dont know waht iwas thinking. its clearly a spire
     
     
This discussion thread continues

Use the page links to the lower-right to go to the next page for additional posts
 
 
 

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Discussion Forums > Buildings & Architecture > Completed Project Threads Archive
Forum Jump



Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 1:40 PM.

     

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.