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Old Posted Sep 24, 2009, 3:33 AM
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Folks, there's the thing called the legal system. If one party to a contract breaches their end of the bargan, then the other party can sue.

It's that simple. Really.

Besides, this method of picketing is obviously not effective at all but at least it gives the homeless a little money and something to do, albeit annoying to passersby.

EDIT: I believe they are picketing because they are trying create a ruckus about the pay a construction company provides on non-union sites. In my opinion, if they are following the law, I have no problem with that. People don't have to take jobs if they think they pay too low. Yes, that's right. I said it. If you don't understand how that works, then you should probably have your voter registration revoked...it's too bad that would be unconstitutional.

I can't wait for the responses I am going to get.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 24, 2009, 4:16 AM
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Picketing is also part of the legal system. When my union pickets an unfair employer (different industry), it's often because the employer has chosen to violate the NLRB and refuses to bargain in good faith. The cases may be ongoing, but the public, particularly customers of the company operating unfairly, should know how the company operates, and it is our right (and duty) to inform them.

I don't know the particulars of the picketers in this case, which is why I won't make assumptions and comment on them. I will say, however, that the only "bitches" I hear "whining" are on this thread.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 24, 2009, 11:46 AM
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Picketing is also part of the legal system. When my union pickets an unfair employer (different industry), it's often because the employer has chosen to violate the NLRB and refuses to bargain in good faith. The cases may be ongoing, but the public, particularly customers of the company operating unfairly, should know how the company operates, and it is our right (and duty) to inform them.

I don't know the particulars of the picketers in this case, which is why I won't make assumptions and comment on them. I will say, however, that the only "bitches" I hear "whining" are on this thread.
I'd call it more along the lines of "sarcastic, biting commentary on societal issues", but its a free country.
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 24, 2009, 1:04 PM
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College Football Hall adds to tourist menu

By Leon Stafford
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
12:02 a.m. Thursday, September 24, 2009

The College Football Hall of Fame, which officials will announce today is coming to Atlanta, will cost $50 million and be funded by city, state and private sources.

The 50,000-square-foot hall will open as early as September 2012, said Gary Stokan, president of the Chick-fil-A Bowl, which oversaw the five-year effort to snag the museum from its home in South Bend, Ind.

Officials hope to locate the attraction near Centennial Olympic Park — already a powerhouse entertainment district with the Georgia Dome, Philips Arena, Georgia Aquarium, World of Coca-Cola and the future home of the Center for Civil and Human Rights, also projected to open in 2012.

“This is an outstanding draw for Atlanta and I think makes the statement that Atlanta is one of the best tourism cities in America,” Stokan said. “This will be the portal, the mecca of football.”

The Chick-fil-A Bowl will fund $5 million of the hall’s cost. Chick-fil-A, the Atlanta-based fast-food company, will pitch in another $5 million, Stokan said. He declined to disclose city and state funding, preferring to leave that to Mayor Shirley Franklin and Gov. Sonny Perdue, who will speak at a news conference this afternoon.

Other corporate fund-raising has not yet begun.

“Out of respect to South Bend, we didn’t move forward to any finalization of corporate sponsorships,” Stokan said.

The deal puts the museum — which brings in big names such as former NFL star Troy Aikman and former coach Lou Holtz for annual inductions — in Atlanta for the next 30 years, Stokan said.

The complete funding package will be finalized in late December, Stokan said.

He projected that the hall would attract “upwards of 500,000 people” annually, which would make it considerably more successful than it has been in South Bend.

Projected to attract 200,000 visitors annually when it opened there in 1995, the hall drew 150,000 its first year. But its numbers fell well below expectations thereafter, averaging 60,000 annually.

Atlanta boosters hope it will draw from the millions of sports fans who come downtown for games at the Dome and Philips Arena; from the conventioneers at the Georgia World Congress Center; and from those who flock to the many attractions around Centennial Olympic Park.

Atlanta sports marketing guru Bob Hope said proximity to popular attractions does not guarantee success. It will take creativity to keep people coming after the newness and the novelty have worn off, he said.

“I don’t think they will do well by just opening the doors. They will have to do a lot of marketing and have to keep it fresh,” Hope said.

Thinking more broadly is what helped Atlanta win its bid to move the museum, said Steve Hatchell, president of the National Football Foundation and the College Football Hall of Fame. While other cities like Dallas also wanted to be the new home, Atlanta was willing to put together financing to back it up.

“We didn’t send out [requests for proposals], these cities came to us, Hatchell said. “We weren’t shopping to move.”

He expects Atlanta will bring the museum more visibility and draw more foot traffic than South Bend because of the population differences — 100,000 people in South Bend compared to metro Atlanta’s more than 5 million.

The Atlanta museum will include an education component that will be developed in consultation with local school chiefs like Atlanta Superintendent Beverly Hall. And it will offer entertainment, including a big outdoor screen for visitors who don’t have tickets for games at the Dome or Philips to watch, Stokan said.

“I call it ‘edutainseum,’” he said.

Officials are looking at four downtown sites for the museum, but Stokan declined to identify them. Downtown property owners and real estate agents said one of the spots is a parking lot on Centennial Olympic Park Drive.

Stokan said an architect will be announced in about a month, and the decision on the site will be made in the next four months.

“Our preference is around Centennial Olympic Park,” he said of the site selection.

Pattsie Rand, sales and marketing director for the GWCC, said being a convention town will help. When deciding where to hold conventions, meeting planners are always looking for the new. During its first couple of years, the Georgia Aquarium pulled in a lot of business because conventioneers wanted to hold opening ceremonies at someplace different.

Cesar Wurm, sales and marketing director at the W Atlanta downtown, agreed. He said the museum will not be the main reason that convention traffic will come, “but it helps you close the deal as an added value.”

David Marvin, who has developed several downtown hotels, said Atlanta’s track record in making the city more destination-friendly has been good.

“As Bernie Marcus [the aquarium’s builder] taught us, Atlanta really supports great destinations,” he said. “I imagine it will do very well here. It’s another arrow in Atlanta’s quiver.”
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Old Posted Sep 24, 2009, 1:47 PM
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The more I read about the CFHF the more I like it. Soooo much better than the Nascar museum would have been
     
     
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Wow. Does anyone have any updates on the new symphony hall.
     
     
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The more I read about the CFHF the more I like it. Soooo much better than the Nascar museum would have been
Yes, and I believe the site for the museum is not the one you mentioned, but rather one of the parking lots adjacent to the Tabernacle (southeastern end of the park).

Pretty soon, Centennial Park is going to be completely surrounded by museums. That is sort of remarkable, and it will probably mean a re-configuration of the park within the next 10 years. Already built or proposed are:
- Aquarium
- World of Coke
- Center for Civil and Human Rights
- Children's Museum
- College Football HoF
- Health museum (Moshe Safdie designed)
- Museum of Patriotism
- Some sort of music museum (with Hard Rock Hotel)
- CNN Center

I'm sure I am missing something, but that is quite a lot of attractions in one place. I hope the city will look at some larger strategy for this area....rather than allow each of them to build independently. We already saw this once with the Aquarium and World of Coke - each of which has its own enormous parking deck...
     
     
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Yes, and I believe the site for the museum is not the one you mentioned, but rather one of the parking lots adjacent to the Tabernacle (southeastern end of the park).

Pretty soon, Centennial Park is going to be completely surrounded by museums. That is sort of remarkable, and it will probably mean a re-configuration of the park within the next 10 years. Already built or proposed are:
- Aquarium
- World of Coke
- Center for Civil and Human Rights
- Children's Museum
- College Football HoF
- Health museum (Moshe Safdie designed)
- Museum of Patriotism
- Some sort of music museum (with Hard Rock Hotel)
- CNN Center

I'm sure I am missing something, but that is quite a lot of attractions in one place. I hope the city will look at some larger strategy for this area....rather than allow each of them to build independently. We already saw this once with the Aquarium and World of Coke - each of which has its own enormous parking deck...
Museum of Patriotism??? It's like having a creationist museum. We don't need to tout it.

Atlanta needs the Symphony Hall a lot more than a football museum. Not that it's either/or
     
     
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Old Posted Sep 24, 2009, 6:47 PM
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- Some sort of music museum (with Hard Rock Hotel)
Has there been any further mention of what the music museum might be? Any chance it could be the relocated Georgia Music Hall of Fame?
     
     
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Anybody know if there are some proposed design for it yet? So exciting to see if there is one.
     
     
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Hey, wouldn't it be cool to have Hardrock and Georgia build a museum together dedicated to muscians from ga. like a "Hardrock's Georgia Music of Hall of Fame"
     
     
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There's already a pretty cool Georgia Music Hall of Fame in Macon. The trouble is that it's not generating much traffic.

Fulton County Commissioner Rob Pitts is pushing to have it relocated to Atlanta, but I guess that's a state level decision since the taxpayers are providing most of the funding.

http://georgiasoul.blogspot.com/2009/08/pitts-supports-relocation-of-georgia.html
     
     
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Museum of Patriotism??? It's like having a creationist museum. We don't need to tout it.
You know I really had the same assumptions when I heard about it. Figured it was just a big redneck conservative christian circle jerk of propaganda.

But I've walked past it a few times and honestly I'm rather intrigued now. It seems to have a big slant towards liberties, free speech, basic human rights, and a focus on democracy and the democratic process.

Haven't been yet, but just from glancing at the things they had on display in the windows, it appeared to be a lot more balanced and agenda-neutral than I would have expected from the name alone.
     
     
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You know I really had the same assumptions when I heard about it. Figured it was just a big redneck conservative christian circle jerk of propaganda.

But I've walked past it a few times and honestly I'm rather intrigued now. It seems to have a big slant towards liberties, free speech, basic human rights, and a focus on democracy and the democratic process.

Haven't been yet, but just from glancing at the things they had on display in the windows, it appeared to be a lot more balanced and agenda-neutral than I would have expected from the name alone.
I apologize in advance for even asking this but what in the world is so shameful about being proud one's country?
     
     
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Interesting interview with Roy Barnes. He would keep the legislative and judicial departments downtown but move other departments out.

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Roy Barnes on abandoning Capitol Hill

3:26 pm September 21, 2009, by Jim Galloway

Former Gov. Roy Barnes on Monday spoke to a group at the Atlantic Station headquarters of Carter, the commercial real estate firm.

The result was the YouTube video clip below, in which the Democrat suggests that _ if he’s returned to the Governor’s Mansion _ he would depopulate Capitol Hill, and take advantage of some tasty commercial real estate rates.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3u3Nkla8TQ&feature=player_embedded

Here’s the gist:

Question: While you were governor, the Department of Revenue moved from Washington Street downtown to Century Center in DeKalb County. Would you advocate more of those kinds of moves?

Barnes: Yes. I think it’s too congested around Capitol Hill, and that we should move more and more [office workers] out. I think that what we should have around Capitol Hill is solely the judiciary and the legislative branches. But the other executive agencies need to move out, into commercial state.

This is not a quote off the cuff _ look for more to come. Barnes campaign manager Chris Carpenter said there’s been some discussion about moving larger chunks of state government outside metro Atlanta. “Why should someone have to drive three hours to see the governor,” Carpenter asked. “Why do u.s. senators have regional offices and the governor doesn’t.”

Many candidates for governor have been here before. Remember “Saturdays with Sonny”?
     
     
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I apologize in advance for even asking this but what in the world is so shameful about being proud one's country?
Come on now, don't play dumb. The right has tried over the last decade to be the sole owner of everything "patriotic," from flag pins, to yellow ribbons, and on and on.
     
     
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Come on now, don't play dumb. The right has tried over the last decade to be the sole owner of everything "patriotic," from flag pins, to yellow ribbons, and on and on.
Well if the non-right is embarrassed by the very mention of word patriotism then I would say they've been successful. I think being proud of your country should have nothing to do with right or left but that's just me.
     
     
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BIG NEWS FOR THE MIDTOWN MILE TODAY - (ABC today) CB2 has announced that it is coming to 1010 Midtown opening next summer!! Can you say foot traffic? That should about do it.....bring on Apple and all the others....
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BIG NEWS FOR THE MIDTOWN MILE TODAY - (ABC today) CB2 has announced that it is coming to 1010 Midtown opening next summer!! Can you say foot traffic? That should about do it.....bring on Apple and all the others....
About time, this is gonna jump start some awesome retail in midtown!!! I just wonder if it is going in 12th and Midtown, it seems like the best spot (and where I'd love to see Apple come). If the next phase of 12th and Midtown gets off the ground, that will be an amazing retail area (a mandarin oriental wouldn't hurt.)
http://atlanta.bizjournals.com/atlanta/stories/2009/09/28/story3.html

Edit: I was at Crate and Barrel at Lenox and they said it was coming to 12th and Midtown (more specifically they said the corner of 12th and Peachtree, which might mean the spot across from BofA or perhaps not), score!

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BIG NEWS FOR THE MIDTOWN MILE TODAY - (ABC today) CB2 has announced that it is coming to 1010 Midtown opening next summer!! Can you say foot traffic? That should about do it.....bring on Apple and all the others....
CB2 as in Crate and Barrel Wow! There are only a handful of CB2's in the nation.
     
     
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