Canada Line | Completed - Page 484

Zassk · #**9661** Posted **Sep 21, 2009, 6:38 PM**

Brighouse is a really nicely designed station. Very bright, lots of space, tickets and information readily available. Little things put it a notch above most of the Canada Line stations.

Now if only it were served by more trains (and a bus loop)....

arashi_1987 · #**9662** Posted **Sep 21, 2009, 6:57 PM**

I don't really know if a bus loops is so badly needed...Being able to wait for 5 different buses at the same spot (Bay 2) is quite convenient. Once you have bus loops you get 1 or 2 buses at each bay. And at least right now you can wait for buses with a roof (or skytrain guideway) over your head to protect you from the rain. Not sure if the planned bus loop will be a covered one...
Just my thoughts...

mr.x · #**9663** Posted **Sep 21, 2009, 8:33 PM**

^ you'll likely get bus shelters similar to the ones at the Marine Drive loop.

SpongeG · #**9664** Posted **Sep 21, 2009, 8:42 PM**

those signs look good reminds of the ones you find in london at tube stations

what are they doing with that big empty lot next to the station there?

deasine · #**9665** Posted **Sep 21, 2009, 8:43 PM**

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Originally Posted by mr.x

^ you'll likely get bus shelters similar to the ones at the Marine Drive loop.

Though the loop is horribly configured. The principal of the loop works: the execution doesn't.

Here, bus drivers are supposed to unload at the unloading bay, but often unload at the loading bay so it's closer to the station entrance. Those that are not-in-service will then go over to the layover area. The problem is the loading bay serves way too many buses and those buses come too often for it to work properly. It's also quite confusing when 100-22nd Street Stn and 100-Marople Loop (still says Airport Stn btw...), load/unload in the same bay: I've seem many people getting on the wrong bus. What really should happen is the unloading bay, then the layover area, then the loading area: where the loading area contains three bus bays, one to serve all the electric trolleys and the two others for 100 bus. Unfortunately, there's not enough room for that: at least with the current configuration.

David · #**9666** Posted **Sep 21, 2009, 9:34 PM**

Those wayfinding things are awesome. Are they going to be put in across the region? I notice it has a "T" in the corner as well... is that the long rumoured common brand for Translink we've been talking about for years?

NucksFanInVan · #**9667** Posted **Sep 21, 2009, 9:42 PM**

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Originally Posted by deasine

Though the loop is horribly configured. The principal of the loop works: the execution doesn't.

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Unfortunately, there's not enough room for that: at least with the current configuration.

How to build a better bus loop at no (financial) cost:
http://www.marinegateway.ca/

CLC · #**9668** Posted **Sep 21, 2009, 10:58 PM**

City of Vancouver
Cambie Corridor Planning Program - Open Houses

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Help plan the future of the Cambie Corridor
The Canada Line is up and running. Besides giving the city an exciting new transportation choice, the Line is also bringing changes along the Cambie Corridor—the area centred along Cambie Street from 16th Avenue to the Fraser River, which includes four new Canada Line stations.

Learn more about the City’s major planning initiative along the Corridor by dropping by at an open house. It’s a chance to offer your ideas and find out how you can be involved in the process. Feedback from the open houses will help prepare land use policies for the Corridor.

Tuesday, September 22 from 4 – 8 pm
Scottish Cultural Centre
8886 Hudson Street (at West 73rd Avenue)

Wednesday, September 23 from 4 – 8 pm
Holy Name of Jesus Church
4905 Cambie Street (at West 33rd Avenue)
Southwest Entrance

Sunday, September 27 from 10 am – 4 pm
Oakridge Centre Auditorium
650 West 41st Avenue (at Cambie Street)
Southwest Entrance

View information card:
http://gw.vancouver.ca/commsvcs/planning/cambiecorridor/pdf/sep09cardenglish.pdf

mrjauk · #**9669** Posted **Sep 21, 2009, 11:16 PM**

I asked this same question a few pages back and didn't receive an answer, so I'll ask again. Has anyone heard any recent ridership numbers for the line. Is this information posted publicly?

TIA.

mr.x · #**9670** Posted **Sep 21, 2009, 11:21 PM**

^ nobody knows, they haven't released any numbers since late-August.

Unregistered · #**9671** Posted **Sep 22, 2009, 12:10 AM**

I really hate the "and then about every such-and-such minutes" on the new bus schedules... I feel like I have to have a degree in game theory to decide which bus to take home.

squeezied · #**9672** Posted **Sep 22, 2009, 1:14 AM**

the thing I dont like about the marine drive station is that it is only transit-oriented, not pedestrian. the configuration of the station assumes people will be arriving/departing by buses at the bus loop, not by foot. it's very inconvenient for pedestrians as they will be coming from the north side of marine dr where the station entrance is at the opposite side of the site. to get to the station entrance you have to go through a narrow and awkward path as the side of the station is immediately on the right and cambie st immediately on the left - not at all attractive to pedestrians.

courtesy of tafyrn:http://www.seataf.com/blogs/canadaline/2009-08-17/images/IMG_0124.jpg

i wouldn't want to walk through here at night

metroXpress · #**9673** Posted **Sep 22, 2009, 3:35 AM**

^ they should've put the grass on the other side of the walkway...even if it means pedestrains are walking closer to the curbside.

deasine · #**9674** Posted **Sep 22, 2009, 3:37 AM**

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Originally Posted by Allen

^ they should've put the grass on the other side of the walkway...even if it means pedestrains are walking closer to the curbside.

There's no room for that. What they really should've done is move the sidewalk on the other side of the station.

officedweller · #**9675** Posted **Sep 22, 2009, 3:42 AM**

There will be a passage on the other side of the station - when it is redeveloped.

squeezied · #**9676** Posted **Sep 22, 2009, 4:27 AM**

the problem is most pedestrians will probably conrinue using the current pathway to the station as they will be arriving at the corner of marine and cambie. the new passage way that is to come with the marine gateway redevelopment is a bit far from that intersection. here's the site plan:http://www.marinegateway.ca/documents/board8traffic.pdf (the long dotted-line arrow)

CLC · #**9677** Posted **Sep 22, 2009, 6:25 AM**

I see quite few pedestrians walking to and from Marine Drive station, when I was in a restaurant that can watch the intersection for 1 hour.

I must also say the frequency of buses (the 5 routes together) in & out of the Marine Drive loop is very impressive!

vansky · #**9678** Posted **Sep 22, 2009, 6:46 AM**

we need more business around the train stations, and the entire region, hopefully malls of multi-stories. The one story plaza just falls short of architecture.

Vonny · #**9679** Posted **Sep 22, 2009, 6:59 AM**

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Originally Posted by SpongeG

those signs look good reminds of the ones you find in london at tube stations

what are they doing with that big empty lot next to the station there?

it could remind also the Paris one

...the local area map.

they are also at Bridgeport by the way (which is a fairly well designed station, except it is not very designed to arrive by walking or biking: you have to violate th sign "transit only" to get to the station...)

One could appreciate to have a timeline on the bus, to get a sense of the length of the journey, and some connection on the bus route could be noted as well, but overall it is a major improvement on what we knew before and a very good step in the right direction.

I especially like the simplified schedule whenever necessary, and plain schedule at low frequency.

Regarding the Marine Drive loop:
the concept on a single bay for lot of bus route is a good way to minimize real estate use, but should come with some provision:

ideally an electronic sign should indicate the next coming buses, to give some sense of line discipline (it should be not complicate because it is a terminus, and some staff is on site).

I guess they do it, at Marine drive more as an experimentation toward the UBC loop (no work ongoing there?).

what is curious is that there is no concession on those bus loop

Xerx · #**9680** Posted **Sep 23, 2009, 7:55 PM**

Closest thing i've found to ridership numbers

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VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) - TransLink says there hasn't been a big increase in checks for fare evaders on the Canada Line, despite calls to News1130 saying they've seen increased enforcement. TransLink's Derek Zabel says there's been no corporate directive ordering transit cops to be more active in weeding out cheats.

Zabel says Transit Police have been keeping an eye out for U-Pass abusers, due to issues with people apparently selling their U-Passes over Craigslist. Zabel says the price of getting caught just isn't worth it, considering the one-zone fare is $2.50, while the fine for not paying is $170.

Zabel also says criminals seem to be avoiding Canada Line too. "There's been a couple of minor cases of vandalism, which happens in different cities and regions, but so far it's been fairly quiet." Zabel says capacity on the Canada Line has been running at about 80 per cent--approximately 8,000 users per hour.

Source: Dean Recksiedlerhttp://www.news1130.com/news/local/more.jsp?content=20090923_130746_6336