Canada Line | Completed

[BCPhil]

Originally Posted by paradigm4

WTF? There's two huge areas in each train designed for both bike and luggage storage.

Agreed, the bike space works well for people with large luggage. People with smaller stuff can put it on their laps or under their seats. I only travel with a carry on sized luggage and everything I bring with me fits on my lap or between my legs on the ground, and I'm sure it would fit under the seat as well.

Call me crazy, but for some reason, I like to stand and walk around before getting on a flight. It might be nerves, but it also has to do with the fact I'm going to be sitting for the next several hours in a cramped space. So I like to make myself feel tired enough to sit still for a few hours. So if I ever take the Canada Line for a flight, I'm sure I'll stand just for the pre-flight exercise.

WRT seniors, yeah, I find that a bit disturbing. I've noticed a lot of people not giving up their seats that should. I think Vancouver is getting more rude. Not only in giving up seats, but in even simple things like holding doors open (real doors, not Skytrain doors) or saying thanks. The last time I was on the Canada Line I gave up my seat near the front to a mom who was trying to watch her kids look out the front window, she looked like she needed to sit down.

WRT fare evasion. I've noticed that when I witness a fare check on a train car, that most, if not all the people the police catch aren't riding for free, but are cheating. They are either using a 1 zone monthly pass without scratching the zone #, thus using it as a 2 or 3 zone pass, or they have a improper zone ticket, or the most common, using a concession fare.

I've seen so many middle aged men and women caught using a concession fare saver ticket, they then try and get out of it by saying they don't understand English. I don't know how gates are going to stop those people unless we keep up fare checks. If there are no fare checks, everyone will just use concession tickets.

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by mr.x

I hate it when I'm right about this.

If transit lines aren't busy during rush hour, they are failures.

[lightrail]

Originally Posted by CLC

Translink spokesman Drew Snider says expect "line-up" in Richmond-Brighouse and Bridgeport station by 8 am on Tuesday. Crowd control into station with the blue barriers maybe?

Matin Crilly should take away the blue barriers from ProTransit whatever it's called - the Crowd control is a joke, it actually reduces the system efficiency by being over-controlled.

[Kitchissippi]

Originally Posted by whatnext

The bike space to YVR is a complete waste, how many people are going to use that?

I did. I'm usually in Vancouver at the start or end of long distance bike trips (just finished Edmonton to Vancouver) and I take my bike on the plane with me. In the past I've biked in and out of YVR but those bridges in and out of Sea Island are just atrocious. Anyway, you cant have different train sets going to the airport and Richmond.

[mr.x]

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

If transit lines aren't busy during rush hour, they are failures.

They are also failures when they are on the opposite side of the spectrum, when they overflow....and in this case, when a new line barely a month old overflows.

[SpongeG]

i'm pretty young and i can stand if i have to but i'm also diabetic and sometimes i just have to sit and I get dirty looks

I've seen a few bikers get on/off at templeton - a lot of people ride that area - its nice and flat

[SpongeG]

Originally Posted by mr.x

They are also failure when they are on the opposite side of the spectrum, when they overflow....and in this case, when a new line barely a month old overflows.

i would love to see the overflow

tell me where and when to go see it

it hasn't been bad the times i have used it

[EdinVan]

In a funny way, perhaps Miriam Mattila should take it as a compliment that nobody gave up their seat for her --- she looks pretty good for 73, so I don't know if many people recognized that she was a 'senior'!

[EdinVan]

Originally Posted by mr.x

Vancouverites [...] don't like facing each other

That's all you need to say about this city.

[EdinVan]

Originally Posted by WarrenC12

LOL he's ranting about capacity I think. I thought you of all people would understand...

I love it when people use the word "rant" to describe opinions that go against the majority.

[DKaz]

It took me 11 minutes to get from the corner of Georgia and Granville to Broadway and Main via Canada Line and 99 B-Line. Extremely impressive if you ask me, after I assumed it would take me a bit over 20 minutes (that's what I told my family whom I was meeting up with), and way less crowded than using Expo Line and 3 bus.

[CLC]

^ Canada Line is certainly fast enough. At least for me I can go to several destinations as fast as using my car (in a typical weekday afternoon traffic). I don't even live close to a C-Line station , have to take a 10 mins+ bus (#49) to Langara station


Another new story...
Canada Line elevators: Which way is up?
http://www.ctvbc.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20090904/bc_elevator_buttons_090904/20090904/

[deasine]

Originally Posted by CLC

^ Canada Line is certainly fast enough. At least for me I can go to several destinations as fast as using my car (in a typical weekday afternoon traffic). I don't even live close to a C-Line station , have to take a 10 mins+ bus (#49) to Langara station


Another new story...
Canada Line elevators: Which way is up?
http://www.ctvbc.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20090904/bc_elevator_buttons_090904/20090904/

I shaved my airport commute from 1 hour to 30 minutes with the Canada Line. The bus cancelations do create longer commutes for people going to Richmond transporting west of Granville, but there aren't many of those taking transit.

The elevators story is funny, but yes, a bit more detailed signage would be helpful. We have to treat people as babies I guess.

[windscar]

Finally had my first ride on the Canada Line on Thursday, and must say I am impressed and in a good way. Here are some points:

Small Nitpicks

1. I'll always say that the platforms should have been built larger, 60 meters, and/or, at the very lest capable for future expansion to say 80-120 meters. And also have both the inbound and outbound platforms an extra 1-2 meters wider. While we'll never need a 8 car trains set, 4 and 6 car trains will be need in 15 and 40 year time frame.
2. Wish we had ordered a few more trains so the frequency could be a bit faster both day and night, eight minutes can seem like an eternity.
3. They need to install more ticket machines at the stations, as only having one machine that works, even if it last for an hour, at Lansdown, sucks.

The Good

1. In way, I am happy its a different system the rest of skytrain, as the trains not only look bigger, but feel bigger. Since if Bombardier built it, the train would be...well I love the bigger trains, gives it more of a heavy rail feel.
2. Costumer service looks to be really topnotch. The attendants are friendly, approachable, helpful, and they seem to enjoy their jobs. I saw one at Lansdown not looking out at the sights of Richmond, but looking down and watching over the station's ticket machines and entrances. Trains and Stations look clean and the cleaners at stations, seem to check the trains that are waiting in stations.
3. The announcements are loud and clear, I like how the "please let passengers of first" plays even without a train present. Hopeful they make one that remind the masses to "not hold the train's doors, as it will cause delays on the whole line" would be great. Hopefully Translink adds those announcements to the whole skytrain network soon.
4. The travel time is great, even though I wasn't zoned out and was watching everything that was going on around me. I was stile abit surprised to hear the "next station is "Broadway-City Hall" as it only seemed like 10 minutes.
5. All in all it was a great first time Canada Line experience and I will be gladly using the line again if I an heading downtown and don't feel like driving or if I need to commute.

The Future, Realistic or Not

1. If possible they sh/could have trains running from YVR to Richmond-Brighoues via Bridgeport. By doing that, the frequency could be the same Canada Line wide. Though I guess demand and passenger levels wouldn't warrant that particular train rote, it would be nice for the passengers in Richmond similar frequency as Vancouverites and YVR travellers that a going to Richmond.
2. A connection, inside of the fare paid zone, linking the Vancouver City Centre and Granville Stations would be nice, and have it open ether during skytrain operating times or at least when the mall is closed, so the Pacific Centre can still benefit from people making a transfer.

While I did observe somethings that I wish was done differently or that I just wanted to point out, my overall satisfaction still beats the paint off the nitpicks and I can giving our new Canada Line four out of five stars.

[Chikinlittle]

Why is this thread being closed on 07Sep? People aren't allowed to talk about the Canada Line anymore?

[mr.x]

This thread definitely shouldn't be closed, there's still so much to talk about the Canada Line itself....just let it die out naturally when discussion about the line goes out like a candle.

[Metro-One]

I still think Dec 31st is a nice compromise.

I think windscar sums it up pretty well. Of course there are many things that we can nit pick about, but overall it is a great addition and I love riding it! I would also give it 4 out of 5 stars.

I just wish they ordered maybe 25 to 30 train sets to start. Also i wish they made the stations expandable to 65 meters, that way we could add 2 c-cars to the middle.

Also I wish it were written into the contract that protransit was responsible for the platform expansions and ordering of extra cars as demand increases. I hate set contracts with estimated numbers that never pan out, especially over 30 years!

[Unregistered]

Do we know for a fact that the C-Cars are going to be 15 meters, and not 10 or 20?

[mr.x]

^ it is believed that they will be at least 10-metres long, and can reach a max. length of about 15-metres.

Beyond 15-metres, some doors wouldn't be able to fit the platform.

[deasine]

15 metres would be the only train set that makes sense. 20 metre long trains don't really add that much more capacity, and yet closes off the first and last doors. Not to mention, the overhang at YVR and Richmond isn't long enough.

The discussion is closed because it's part of Metro Vancouver transit. People are going to talk all over the place: might as well centralize all the talk into the general thread. September 7th marks the bus integration with the Canada Line.