Salt Lake:Official development news thread - Part 2 - Page 61

WeST · #**1201** Posted **Aug 28, 2009, 9:30 PM**

I agree Urbanboy I think that if there is a possibility of expanding another direction then they should. It would be a shame to lose that home. What about moving it to another location? Also, I agree that it would be much better if they created another entrance that fronted 2100 South.

DMTower · #**1202** Posted **Aug 28, 2009, 9:37 PM**

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Originally Posted by esirhgih

I think its cool, but kind of odd that they just repeated the same images on each panel. I'd rather have seen them tell a story or timeline in the mural the reads from side to side, instead of just repeating the same thing 13 times.

I was thinking the same thing. The images are a classy touch, but the repetition sort of takes away from it for me because then it becomes all about the pattern they create and not the image anymore.

Orlando · #**1203** Posted **Aug 28, 2009, 10:44 PM**

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Originally Posted by esirhgih

I think its cool, but kind of odd that they just repeated the same images on each panel. I'd rather have seen them tell a story or timeline in the mural the reads from side to side, instead of just repeating the same thing 13 times.

This is probably what they got the idea from. Though, I think it's a clever way of showing the past of the building.

delts145 · #**1204** Posted **Aug 29, 2009, 3:49 PM**

As with many of you, this is one of my favorite sections of Downtown Salt Lake. I would love to see allot more future housing placed in this area. There seems to be a momentum building in that direction. I think many would find this immediate area a very attractive place to live. Was very glad to read the news of the new bar and diner just south of the Commercial Club. What an improvement that makeover is!!

Here's a pic of one of downtowns many great beauties. I thought you guys might enjoy it. Seems like we can never see enough pics of these gems.

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delts145 · #**1205** Posted **Aug 30, 2009, 1:13 PM**

I really like this pic too Justn. Probably one of the better pics from the north hills side I've seen in a while. More density
on State and West Temple will be something I hope to see over the next five years.

If we can get three or four 600 footers over the next while between State and 200 West, that's going to make this north angle a very cool pano.

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Originally Posted by Justnslcsugarhood.

I freaking love this photo!

Does anyone know for sure if they're going to keep the beautiful fountain in the front or not? I understood that they were
re-working the main entrance, but I can't imagine an O.C Tanner project without an incredible water feature.

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Sight-Seer · #**1206** Posted **Aug 30, 2009, 2:01 PM**

Referring to the mansion east of Circuit City, when it was gutted a few years ago, it diminished it's historic significance a lot. The LDS church has a history of demolishing old buildings if they're in the way. I wish everyone would have been more sensative about destroying old houses before so many of the downtown mansions were leveled. I don't think people cared a lot back then. It's good we have the Devereaux House. It is the centerpiece of the Triad Center. It had been gutted and then most of the roof hacked off. There isn't much of the original house left. I don't think it's really considered a historic structure now.

Zionide · #**1207** Posted **Aug 30, 2009, 7:47 PM**

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Originally Posted by Sight-Seer

It's good we have the Devereaux House. It is the centerpiece of the Triad Center. It had been gutted and then most of the roof hacked off. There isn't much of the original house left. I don't think it's really considered a historic structure now.

While there's not much that's original in the Devereaux (thanks to fire), it is still considered historic and the restoration was done extremely well, with period-appropriate materials and methods (at least as far as the public rooms---the commercial kitchen and elevator, etc., are obviously not historic).

urbanboy · #**1208** Posted **Aug 30, 2009, 8:22 PM**

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Originally Posted by delts145

I really like this pic too Justn. Probably one of the better pics from the north hills side I've seen in a while. More density
on State and West Temple will be something I hope to see over the next five years.

If we can get three or four 600 footers over the next while between State and 200 West, that's going to make this north angle a very cool pano.

Does anyone know for sure if they're going to keep the beautiful fountain in the front or not? I understood that they were
re-working the main entrance, but I can't imagine an O.C Tanner project without an incredible water feature.

by DMTower

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The fountain was a later addition to the building. OC Tanner co. is restoring the original front steps and middle door, therefore, the fountain will not be included.

Smuttynose1 · #**1209** Posted **Aug 31, 2009, 4:08 AM**

Sweeping rule changes on tap for Salt Lake City bars
Liquor revolution » Becker wants to burn old rules, allow neighborhood bars and pave way for downtown entertainment districts.

http://www.sltrib.com/News/ci_13226779

Good news! The only vexing part is Senate President Waddoups' reaction:

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"It sounds to me like they're just trying to get more alcohol outlets in the city," says Senate President Michael Waddoups. "I don't see how that's a good idea."

The Taylorsville Republican says it's a "real stretch" to say the city is simply trying to "normalize" the rules. He says "it reflects on all of us if they do something outlandish."

"My office is at 9th & 9th and I don't want [bars] there," he adds. "We're better off with a Wendy's than another bar. It may not be the proper role of state government to get involved, but if they say all neighborhoods, it goes too far."

Ahh, yes, fast food joints are far more attractive than neighborhood restaurants and pubs. Imagine if we replaced all those terrible restaurants and brewpubs on Main Street in Park City with fast food franchises! Now that would really spruce the place up!

I can't begin to take this guy seriously. I don't know where he comes off thinking it's the state legislature's job to dictate SLC's local ordinances. The city drafted the ordinance in the first place, and they of course should have the ability to alter it.

anyiliang · #**1210** Posted **Aug 31, 2009, 8:45 AM**

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Originally Posted by Smuttynose1

I can't begin to take this guy seriously. I don't know where he comes off thinking it's the state legislature's job to dictate SLC's local ordinances. The city drafted the ordinance in the first place, and they of course should have the ability to alter it.

I had to pleasure to meet Senator Waddoups and his Wife when they came to Taiwan a couple months ago with a Utah delegation. I gave the Senators a tour of Taipei city and to be truthful, his is a nice guy, but very very quite, He did not speak much. Unlike the other Senators that asked more about the city subway system and building regulations along with the districts in the city dedicated to entertainment ie bars and all.

I agree with Smuttynose that he has no business with SLC local ordinances. He should concentrate on Taylorsville and West Jordan problems. However, I guess that he feels that because he is the President of the Senate have a say what happens with local ordinances outside of District 6.

SLCInternational · #**1211** Posted **Aug 31, 2009, 9:10 AM**

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Originally Posted by Sight-Seer

Referring to the mansion east of Circuit City, when it was gutted a few years ago, it diminished it's historic significance a lot. The LDS church has a history of demolishing old buildings if they're in the way. I wish everyone would have been more sensative about destroying old houses before so many of the downtown mansions were leveled. I don't think people cared a lot back then. It's good we have the Devereaux House. It is the centerpiece of the Triad Center. It had been gutted and then most of the roof hacked off. There isn't much of the original house left. I don't think it's really considered a historic structure now.

Just think that if all of the mansions in the past did not get torn down, how cool would our city look today and in the future. There would be all of these mansions surrounded by skyscrapers.

delts145 · #**1212** Posted **Aug 31, 2009, 10:36 AM**

S.L. close to making liquor laws less restrictive

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705326907/SL-to-making-liquor-laws-less-strict.html

...Mayor Ralph Becker and his team have been working for more than a year now on an alcohol overhaul that could shorten the distance between downtown bars and let patrons belly up to the bar for a libation at 9th and 9th.

"We've had some very restrictive liquor policies that, maybe at one time, many decades ago, made some sense," Becker said. "We're really just trying to clean things up."

As the city works to get its codes in line with changes to state liquor laws made earlier this year, the mayor and his staff are making good on a campaign promise to "normalize" liquor laws in Salt Lake City...

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delts145 · #**1213** Posted **Aug 31, 2009, 10:45 AM**

Salt Lake leaders sold on Portland streetcar system

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705326556/Salt-Lakers-sold-on-streetcar-system.html

..."I would never have believed it if I hadn't seen it firsthand," Blomquist said after a day of touring Portland's Pearl District. "You would be amazed how it has revitalized this part of the city."

Blomquist was one of a handful of Salt Lake retailers, developers and city officials to tour the streetcar line and meet with their Portland counterparts Friday...

...In Portland, officials have turned a $55 million, 2 1/2-mile stretch of track into $3.5 billion in private investment over the past eight years, Baxter said.

Those numbers aside, the before-and-after pictures of Portland's Pearl District had Blomquist and others hopeful about what a similar line could mean for them.

"It's opened our eyes and given us hope for the future," he said.

The planned line would run from the 2100 South TRAX station to the old Granite Furniture building in Sugar House.

The slow-moving streetcar would stop more frequently than a TRAX train, increasing foot traffic to stores along the line, Baxter said.

Right now, city leaders are hoping to land a $35 million slice of the federal stimulus package to help pay for the Sugar House line. If they are successful in grabbing that money, the line could be up and running by early 2012...

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aspiringArchitect · #**1214** Posted **Aug 31, 2009, 8:48 PM**

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Originally Posted by SLCInternational

Just think that if all of the mansions in the past did not get torn down, how cool would our city look today and in the future. There would be all of these mansions surrounded by skyscrapers.

Unfortunatly it's the same way in many cities around here, too.

Chicago's north shore was full of beautiful mansions and apartment buildings until the 1960's/70's. Then developers started to tear them all down to make way for taller but really ugly concrete boxes. There are still some historic buildings sprinkled around, but to think of what it used to be like is just depressing. I know it's the same way up in Milwaukee, also.

As for this Mr. Waddoups, he's a pretty funny guy! How far back in the past is he stuck anyway?

TonyAnderson · #**1215** Posted **Sep 1, 2009, 2:02 AM**

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Originally Posted by aspiringArchitect

Unfortunatly it's the same way in many cities around here, too.

Chicago's north shore was full of beautiful mansions and apartment buildings until the 1960's/70's. Then developers started to tear them all down to make way for taller but really ugly concrete boxes. There are still some historic buildings sprinkled around, but to think of what it used to be like is just depressing. I know it's the same way up in Milwaukee, also.

As for this Mr. Waddoups, he's a pretty funny guy! How far back in the past is he stuck anyway?

I actually think he was saying that the city wouldn't look as good if they hadn't done that. I may be wrong.

TonyAnderson · #**1216** Posted **Sep 1, 2009, 2:02 AM**

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Originally Posted by delts145

S.L. close to making liquor laws less restrictive

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705326907/SL-to-making-liquor-laws-less-strict.html

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"We've had some very restrictive liquor policies that, maybe at one time, many decades ago, made some sense," Becker said. "We're really just trying to clean things up."

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Why did it make sense then as compared to now?

urbanboy · #**1217** Posted **Sep 1, 2009, 3:05 AM**

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Originally Posted by TonyAnderson

Why did it make sense then as compared to now?

Prohibition maybe... or more likely the changing demographics of Salt Lake City.

delts145 · #**1218** Posted **Sep 1, 2009, 4:55 AM**

This guy is probably one of the most popular photographers on flickr. This particular pic he took of the Capitol is awesome. It generated more comments than just about any photo I've seen on Flickr. I also thought his commentary on Salt Lake City was interesting.

Salt Lake City is a really interesting place. This is the first time I have ever been here. This is definitely the most spectacular state Capital building I have ever seen. Last week I shot the pitiful little capital building in Carson City, Nevada. That one looked like a little elementary school in Genericville, USA. So far, my feelings on Salt Lake City are mixed. It is one of the cleanest, nicest cities I have ever seen. It has some of the most spectacular architecture I've seen. Photography wise, it is challenging because it also has more new construction than I have ever seen in one place. Right in the middle of the skyline is a huge cluster of half built skeleton buildings surrounded by cranes.

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delts145 · #**1219** Posted **Sep 1, 2009, 11:46 AM**

Developer wants South S.L. backing

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705327046/Developer-wants-South-SL-backing.html

SOUTH SALT LAKE — A developer who wants to put 27-story condominiums in the heart of this industrial suburb plans to ask the City Council on Wednesday to take out bonds for the project.

The $500 million Market Station development has been in the works for years but has stalled recently because finance partners of developer Steve Aste fell through, Aste said...

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delts145 · #**1220** Posted **Sep 1, 2009, 12:03 PM**

Sun may be setting on 'Twilight' concerts at Gallivan

Downtown » $6M remodel may force temporary departure of popular summer music series.

http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_13241874?source=rv

The crowd cheers as The Black Keys perform at the Gallivan Center as part of the Twilight Concert Series on Thursday, July 16, 2009. (Rick Egan/The Salt Lake Tribune )

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