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Yes; that is the Bainbridge Street/Washington Avenue roundabout in the photo. This new building is MUCH more snug to the intersection than the building it is replacing.
Absolutely! I haven't been down there in a while so I can't remember much about the context of the area...but my comment was more looking at all the grassy areas between the building and the street. I'm sure this fits within the bounds of the form-based code downtown...just suprised I guess that it's not closer the property line along the sidewalk.
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Absolutely! I haven't been down there in a while so I can't remember much about the context of the area...but my comment was more looking at all the grassy areas between the building and the street. I'm sure this fits within the bounds of the form-based code downtown...just suprised I guess that it's not closer the property line along the sidewalk.
The sidewalks along Washington there are probably 20 feet from the street, so I think this building is as close as it can be.

Also, from WNCF:

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On Monday the Alabama Association of REALTORS will begin demolition on its current building on Washington Avenue in Montgomery.

The current structure will be replaced with an environmentally-conscious building designed to better meet the needs of members as the association moves toward the future.

It will be the first LEED certified commercial building in the Montgomery area – that’s a building that has both an environmental design and is energy efficient.

There are only 16 LEED certified buildings in Alabama.
I believe the green roof is part of the LEED objective.
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I believe the green roof is part of the LEED objective.
Your right, it's one way to earn credits toward acheiving a LEED rating. I'm glad to see somone in Montgomery taking a step in this direction.
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Outer Loop 3-mile segment readied for construction


Traffic flows along Alabama 110, also known as Vaughn Road, past the stalled construction of an interchange that was to be part of the Outer Loop. The project, which has been talked about since the early 1990s, may have new life if federal dollars are made available. (Mickey Welsh)

The long-delayed Montgomery Outer Loop projects could be back on.
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If federal dollars are made available through congressional earmarks, not federal stimulus money, the Alabama Department of Transportation will bid out the eastern leg of the work as soon as September or October. That work would connect Interstate 85 to Vaughn Road.

That three-mile stretch of work, which includes a costly interchange at I-85, could cost between $100 million to $120 million, according to ALDOT spokesman Tony Harris.

Although the work would only be three miles of the 20-mile Outer Loop, state Rep. Thad McClammy sees the new interest in the project as a significant victory.

"The journey to the Outer Loop begins with the first three miles," McClammy said Wednesday.

Although the funding for those three miles aren't in hand, Harris is optimistic.

"We've been talking to Congress and are hopeful additional federal funding can be made available to allow us to move forward with taking bids late this year," Harris said.

Doing the entire project, which is intended to relieve congestion and promote economic development, would cost between $400 million to $500 million. Harris said the state is prepared to contribute matching money and would likely be required to do so.

But until such federal funding is received, Montgomery Mayor Todd Strange is downplaying the fact a portion of the project is finally being prepared to be bid.

"The fact that we're teeing it up doesn't mean anything," Strange said during a Montgomery Metropolitan Planning Organization meeting on Wednesday.

Part of preparing for this possible funding meant putting two phases of the three-mile project in what is called the local Transportation Improvement Program (TIP), which is intended to be a list of funded projects.

A formality, the change had to be done before the project could advance in the process.

John Lorentson, who is the Sixth Division Engineer for ALDOT, represented the state at the Wednesday MPO meeting. Lorentson said to the group that although the funding is still being sought, the projects should be added to the TIP so that it would be ready for construction this fall.

"We hope to have (the funding) soon, but we don't know," Lorentson said.
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The two projects on the MPO's agenda would cost about $27 million to do, but they are only two parts of the six phases needed to build the Outer Loop from I-85 to Vaughn Road, which is in a mostly rural and residential area of the county.

The first phase, which cost $21.8 million, has already been finished, but no work has been done on the Outer Loop in the past few years.

The dormant project was given a lift in January when the Montgomery County Commission announced that it would work with a non-profit called Focus 2000 to study the feasibility of building it as a toll road through a public-private partnership.

Harris would not say whether the public-private partnership sparked new interest on the state or federal level, saying only that ALDOT was committed to building the Outer Loop as it was originally envisioned. Harris said the three-mile segment being readied for construction now would not be built as a toll road.

McClammy, an ardent supporter of the project through the years, most recently demonstrated that support by sending oversized two-foot by three-foot postcards -- with a picture of the abandoned project on one side and signatures of residents on the other -- to elected officials in Montgomery and Washington.

While he is fine with private enterprise picking up the project from Vaughn Road westward, he said the state has a "moral responsibility" to finish the project from I-85 to Vaughn Road.

"These are property owners. These are taxpayers. We acquired this property under the pretense that we were going to do the Outer Loop," McClammy said. "We made those promises. We should keep them.

"(Focus 2000) didn't make those promises. The great state of Alabama made those promises. Those are our promises to keep," McClammy added.

County Commission vice chairman Reed Ingram, who represents the area where the Outer Loop would begin, said undertaking the three-mile segment is positive, but added that the benefits of the Outer Loop would not be realized with this small portion.

"It'll help, but only for local residents. It won't do anything as far as economic development. It'll help people get home a little faster," Ingram said.

"You're really not getting anywhere until you get all the pieces," he added.

Ingram said he believed the state and federal government would fund the project from I-85 to Vaughn Road and that private enterprise would likely pick it up from Vaughn Road and continue it west to Troy Highway.

"I'm cautiously optmistic. You don't know if Focus 2000 is really going to come up with the money or not. You don't know. It really could be a road to nowhere," Ingram said.

To date, $52.9 million has been spent on the Outer Loop. Aside from the first phase of the ongoing six-phase project, that work included tasks such as a corridor study, right of way acquisition and preliminary engineering. As of this year, ALDOT has restarted its effort to acquire rights of way beyond Vaughn Road, according to Harris.

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It's good to see this event back in the city. I'll be there with my cousin, but it's going to be packed downtown this weekend. At least the Coosa Street parking deck is finally open...I think.

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By Josh Moon • August 13, 2009

When the Buckmasters Expo moved from downtown Montgomery to Greensboro, N.C., in 2004 due to the construction of the new Renaissance Montgomery Hotel & Spa at the Convention Center, Buckmasters CEO Jackie Bushman made no secret that he wanted to return the expo to Montgomery as soon as possible.

After all, the event was a tremendous success for both Bushman's company, which drew hunting enthusiasts from 44 states in 2004, and the city of Montgomery, which earned an estimated $13 million from the expo that year.
But while its return was never in doubt, just when it would be back certainly was.

"We had to wait a little longer than we told people, had to wait on that one carpenter who was working on the new building down there," Bushman joked Wednesday, referencing a 2007 news conference where it was announced that the expo would return last year.

"But we're finally back and we're certainly excited about everything. We've got a beautiful facility downtown now and we're ready to take advantage of it."

And he means all of it.

In addition to the more than 300 vendors packed into the convention center, the 2009 Expo also will feature a concert for Buckmasters members, featuring country star Joe Diffie, that will be held in the Montgomery Performing Arts Centre.

There will also be a variety of seminars presented by some of hunting's most well-known names, a Buckmasters Trophy Records (BTR) scoring booth and a Young Bucks kid section. Mixed martial arts star Brock Lesnar will be signing autographs for fans on Saturday.

But the attractions sure to draw the most fans will be the competitions -- one featuring the country's top bow shooters and the other featuring "flying dogs" -- an event that tests a dog's ability to jump and retrieve.
On Friday, both the Top Bow World Indoor Archery Championship and the Dockdogs Jump-a-Thon get under way.

Bushman said the Buckmasters bow contest is considered the national championship of bow hunting and will bring in some of the country's top bow shooters. And the Dockdogs event, which will be held on the riverfront, has become one of the most popular events in the country the last few years.
"(The Top Bow Championship) is our big one," Bushman said. "That will draw competitors from all over. It's a very popular event. We're also extremely excited about the Dockdogs event. Both of those should be very popular and bring in a lot of (spectators)."

The Dockdogs event is also part of a bigger plan for future Buckmasters Expos. Bushman said the plan, starting next year, is to expand the event to the riverfront area by bringing in other outdoor elements.

"We want to use all of downtown," Bushman said. "We're looking to bring in a variety of different things. We've also got the Biscuits in town and we're going to have a special Buckmasters night over at the stadium on Friday. There are just a lot of things we can do downtown now that we couldn't before, and we're going to take advantage of it."


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Greenery Aspect of Madison Avenue Plan Draws Ire

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Greenery Aspect of Madison Avenue Plan Draws Ire
By Ashley Hopkinson • August 14, 2009

A potential stimulus project is in the works for Madison Avenue, and some businessmen who've spent more than 20 years downtown, aren't happy about it.

The longtime Montgomery residents didn't mince words at Thursday's public meeting at Montgomery City Hall. They called the project a waste of money and a potential threat to their businesses.

Plans to widen sidewalks, crosswalks and replace angled parking with parallel parking were not met with much dispute. However, the decision to add green space while eliminating front entrance parking didn't go over well.

"I'm all for improvement," said Carl Carlson of AAA Vacuum Cleaner Service at 637 Madison Ave., "but to me that's just going to hinder my business.

"My customers won't have access to get into the front of my building, and if they think planting grass is going to help business they're mistaken," he said.

The proposed plan from the city of Montgomery and Alabama Department of Transportation is to resurface Madison Avenue from Coosa Street to North Ripley Street.

The cost for the project, slated for 2010, is estimated between $3 million to $4 million.

It's not certain that federal funds, potentially from the stimulus package, will be available to pay for the project, Patrick Dunson, assistant city engineer, said.

"The project is still in the planning stage," Dunson said Thursday, adding that the city is open to feedback from residents who agree or disagree with the plan.

Thursday some residents who voiced concerns also filled out comment sheets, putting their issue in writing.

The overall goal of the project is to rehabilitate the road surface, create green space with landscaped sidewalks, add new safety features and improve drainage, Dunson said.

The idea is to recreate similar spaces to those that now exit outside of the Hampton Suites Hotel and The Renaissance Montgomery Hotel & Spa at the Convention Center, making the area more pedestrian friendly.
I like what they have completed (streetscape wise) adjacent to the intersection of Bibb and Commerce Streets. But I can also understand the frustration of the merchants in the area. We are dealing with the same type of situation as we move forward with the Cloverdale Village project in Old Cloverdale.
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It's good to see this event back in the city. I'll be there with my cousin, but it's going to be packed downtown this weekend. At least the Coosa Street parking deck is finally open...I think.
The new parking deck on Coosa Street is open.

And you are correct, this should be a great weekend downtown again! We are going to the Expo tomorrow afternoon late and then over to Riverwalk to catch the Biscuit's game.
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Yea, I just read that... gah, I'm getting tired of all these North Carolina banks forcing their way into Alabama...
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Is this facility along the interstate (either 85 or 65, can't remember)? I remember seeing it a few weeks ago on my way to New Orleans.
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I'm getting tired of all these North Carolina banks forcing their way into Alabama...
Well, it is not exactly FORCING if the bank is being served up on a silver platter!
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Is this facility along the interstate (either 85 or 65, can't remember)? I remember seeing it a few weeks ago on my way to New Orleans.
Yes; it is off the 85 freeway near the Mitylene exit.
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If an outside bank must take-over your local bank, be thankful it is BB&T. BB&T will preserve more jobs in Montgomery than SunTrust or other large centralized banks and all BB&T customers I've talked to, including some family members, agree it is a great bank. I travel often and a stronger presence in Florida and Tennessee would convince me to switch banks to BB&T. Before this merger, their footprint was too small. I still think BB&T should expand their footprint more on the east coast.
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August 18, 2009

MHA eyes Tulane Court for redevelopment

By Jenn Rowell

The Montgomery Housing Authority may consider shifting its pursuit of a special redevelopment grant for Trenholm Court to Tulane Court, which officials believe has a better chance of receiving federal funds for interior and exterior upgrades.

Initially, the MHA had planned to apply for the Hope 6 grant for Trenholm Court, but that redevelopment plan isn't far enough along and would not likely get the funding, MHA director Evette Hester said Monday during the group's modernization committee meeting.

The Hope 6 program is administered by the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development and is designed to eradicate severely distressed public housing.

MHA consulted with Robert Marshall of the Boulevard Group, an urban planning and development consulting firm in Atlanta, and decided Tulane Court had a much better chance of getting the grant funds for redevelopment.

Competitive grant applications usually score above a 90 out of 105 points, Marshall said.

"Trenholm would not score well," Hester said.

On an internal review, the Trenholm application scored a 79 and Tulane scored a 92.

Marshall and Hester said the max grant they could request is $22 million. But Hope 6 grants require a 3-to-1 match, meaning MHA would have to have $66 million in match funds. That money could come from community partners, additional grants, loans and other funding sources.

Committee chair Richard Bollinger asked how much grant money they would apply for, but Hester and Marshall weren't sure. They said they'd first need to consider the project's total cost and how much they can raise in matching funds.

The application is due Nov. 17 and MHA expects a response in January or February.

If MHA receives a Hope 6 grant, Hester said that would allow them to shift some funds planned for Tulane into the Trenholm redevelopment.

The demolition application for Trenholm will be submitted to HUD soon and it takes about 120 days to get an answer, Hester said.

Many families in Trenholm Court have been relocated, but 149 families are still living there. Most are waiting on relocation vouchers, Hester said.

The committee also reviewed bids for the demolition of Tulane Court. They voted to recommend the lowest bidder to the full board tonight.

Bids for architectural services for the redevelopment of Cleveland Court were also on the committee's agenda. The architectural services portion would cost 6 to 8 percent of the $4.5 million project to upgrade kitchens, bathrooms and heating and cooling systems.

MHA staff had already reviewed all of the bids and narrowed the field to three and ranked those during interviews Monday morning.

Hester asked the committee to approve MHA's selection and recommend that choice to the full board today. But Bollinger said without knowing the criteria and evaluation process, he didn't feel comfortable asking the committee to make such a recommendation.

Instead, that item will come to the full board today and Hester said she and her staff would provide the committee with more information on the selection process for future bids and contracts.
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Alley Delays: Downtown Projects Run Into Roadblocks

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Alley Delays: Downtown projects run into roadblocks
By Cosby Woodruff • August 21, 2009

Developers of the Alley project say typical construction delays and just bad timing put the project behind schedule, but they still say it will be a significant entertainment and dining attraction when it is completed.

Last fall, project leaders promised an opening of most of the restaurants and retail outlets by the start of sum­mer, but so far only Dreamland Bar-B-Que and the Alley Bar are open. A
for-rent entertainment room, the 129 Coosa, opened in 2008, but it is avail­able by reservation only.

SaZa Serious Italian Food is ex­pected to open in the Alley by the end of September, and Wintzell's Oyster House should open across the street on a similar timetable.

No retail shops have opened or even been confirmed, and the residen­tial spaces also are far behind sched­ule.

By now, the Alley was supposed to be a gathering spot were people would meet for a night on the town, then se­lect from one of about a dozen dining, drinking and shopping destinations.

Dawn Hathcock of the Montgomery Area Chamber of Commerce's Conven­tion and Visitors Bureau said it is starting to fill that role, only on a wider footprint.

People often meet, she said, at one of the Alley establishments and either stay there or walk to nearby places such as the Montgomery Brew Pub or the Exchange Bar at the Renaissance Montgomery Hotel & Spa at the Convention Center.

Many associated with the Alley say that the project needs at least three more businesses before it can become the destination they hoped it would be.

Jerome Moore, president of Coldwell Banker Commercial, said working on century-old buildings presented greater challenges than expected in many places, and that put the project behind schedule. In places where construction is farther along, leasing has been slow because of the economy.

Some of the spaces have tenants ready to sign leases, Moore said, but he said the economy could put at least some of those in danger.

"No deal is done until it is done," he said.

Some had worried that the noise of ongoing construction would make one-at-a-time openings difficult because people would not enjoy eating lunch to the sound of a saw or jackhammer.

Moore said within a short period, the last of the heavy construction will be complete and much of the noise will be abated.

"That will be gone pretty much forever," he said.

Even now, a heavily traveled block of Commerce Street is closed as workers complete the last of the actual Alley.

Jerry Kyser, one of the lead developers for the entire Alley project, admitted a projected opening date in the first half of this year likely was too aggressive. It quickly became unrealistic, he aded, when lines of credit for new businesses, especially restaurants, became hard to get.

"It has been more of a slow go," he said of the project.

Kyser still has faith in the project and said it eventually will be the next step in revitalizing downtown Montgomery.

"It is doing what it was supposed to do," he said of creating interest in downtown.

He noted that the Pub Crawl, a monthly night out event, is growing and will have its third edition tonight.

He also isn't fretting over the lack of named tenants for the renovated spaces. In fact, he said, the developers are being choosy and only selecting businesses that fit in with the Alley's personality.

"I haven't been in a hurry to make the wrong decision," he said when asked about finding tenants.

Moore also said the Alley's owners must be careful in selecting tenants for commercial space.

"The cream will rise to the top," he said. "We are not going to just jump at the first opportunity."

Even Kyser has slowed some of his development plans. A former music store on Bibb Street is still going to become a country-themed bar, but that won't happen until most of the rest of the project is complete and drawing crowds, he said.

Also, some of the original plans have been dropped. Most notably, what was planned as a rooftop bar above Dreamland will not open.

Kyser said engineering the building would have been too difficult. Even if they had built it, patrons likely would have avoided it, he said, because the smokestack from Dreamland's cooking pit empties out across the roof.

He said when the Alley project is complete, it will be a major draw to downtown.

"When we have three to four restaurants open and people occupying that space and people living in those lofts, it is going to extend out over other parts of downtown," he said.

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I wouldn't fret over it too much. Sure, there will always be a few roadblocks. I still think this is a really neat thing y'all are doing and can't wait to see the end result.
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I wouldn't fret over it too much. Sure, there will always be a few roadblocks. I still think this is a really neat thing y'all are doing and can't wait to see the end result.
True, things are going pretty good for the Alley... because things are going on there. It's just a typical Montgomery Advertiser misleading headline made to sound controversial in order to muster up more readers.
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Speaking of the Montgomery Advertiser, notice these interesting comments (in bold type)...

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By Jill Nolin • August 24, 2009


Annual appraisal notices have been mailed out in Montgomery County, and most residents will find that the collapse in the housing market didn't translate into a decrease in the property tax bill.


"Overall, I think we've been insulated," County Chief Appraiser Jane Mardis said.
That wasn't the case for everyone, though. Development in some of the newer neighborhoods came to a standstill last year, leaving empty lots to drag down the value of the surrounding lots.

There are about 20 examples of such neighborhoods, which include Lockwood in Montgomery and Providence in Pike Road, where the supply in the market has surpassed the demand, Mardis said.

Empty lots and scattered foreclosures -- in both affluent and low-income areas -- have dampened values in some parts of the county, but Mardis said the annual appraisals, which are for the year before, show that Montgomery County has fared far better than other parts of the country.

Parts of Montgomery County have even done surprisingly well.
Some residents of Old Cloverdale will actually see increases in the their tax bill, since parts of the historic neighborhood have seen an increase in property values, according to Mardis. She attributed this to high gas prices making "inner city" neighborhoods look more attractive and slowing the sprawl out in east Montgomery.

Sandra Nickel, a real estate agent who concentrates on historic neighborhoods in Montgomery, said she recently sold a $135,000 home in Cloverdale-Idlewild in less than a week. Another home in that area, this one valued at $200,000, sold in just two weeks. Nickel said these scenarios are more the norm than the exception for the Cloverdale area.

Meanwhile, the average time that a Montgomery home has spent on the market this summer is about 92 days, according to the Alabama Center for Real Estate. The statewide average has been about 155 days.
"We have felt (the recession), but not nearly as much as my peers who have concentrated their efforts in east Montgomery," Nickel said.

Nickel said the reason for that is the availability of attractive financing and because areas such as Cloverdale, Capitol Heights and Cottage Hill have a static supply of homes and are seeing an increased demand. The neighborhoods in east Montgomery have ample supply but not enough demand.

An area of town where there is strong demand but poor supply is downtown, Nickel said. Since there are not enough residences in downtown to meet the demand, the neighborhoods that surround downtown are benefiting. Nickel said two types of homes that are not selling in Cloverdale are the large homes and the fixer-uppers. She said buyers want what she called "an HGTV house," which is a home where upgrades have already been done.
"The buyer is a young professional who knows what they want and is willing to pay for it," Nickel said.

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