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Old Posted Aug 19, 2009, 8:09 PM
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My concern about Cross Iron Mills remains that many Calgarians are familiar with the Mills Outlets in the US and are going to trek up there expecting Arizona Mills or Ontario Mills (suburb of Los Angeles), market research showed the Mills brand was VERY strong here from travel alone.

If you wander in there with those expectations, what is there is going to suck.
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In much less exciting news, the first store at Aspen Landing opens tomorrow. Shoppers Drug Mart has a sign up saying they open on the 20th. There was a lot of activity at some of the other businesses, so I expect a couple others may open tomorrow as well (Edo possibly.) Most of the other bulidings remain unfinished, however, so I'm guessing it will be late fall before everything is open.
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My concern about Cross Iron Mills remains that many Calgarians are familiar with the Mills Outlets in the US and are going to trek up there expecting Arizona Mills or Ontario Mills (suburb of Los Angeles), market research showed the Mills brand was VERY strong here from travel alone.

If you wander in there with those expectations, what is there is going to suck.
I find that shopping as a whole in Canada sucks when comparing to the USA.
Sucks in terms of price, selection and sometimes shopping experience.
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My concern about Cross Iron Mills remains that many Calgarians are familiar with the Mills Outlets in the US and are going to trek up there expecting Arizona Mills or Ontario Mills (suburb of Los Angeles), market research showed the Mills brand was VERY strong here from travel alone.
Gurnee Mills is the ninth circle of hell. Ugly, ugly space.
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Old Posted Aug 20, 2009, 1:47 AM
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My concern about Cross Iron Mills remains that many Calgarians are familiar with the Mills Outlets in the US and are going to trek up there expecting Arizona Mills or Ontario Mills (suburb of Los Angeles), market research showed the Mills brand was VERY strong here from travel alone.

If you wander in there with those expectations, what is there is going to suck.
Just got back from the fun. Actually to be honest it reminded me heavily of Ontario Mills, minus their palm trees of course. Plus it being western Canada, we have to have such gems as a dollar store.

On traffic: Wow. Getting in was OK, felt like xmas shopping if a bit better. Maybe 5 mins to go from highway to parked. We went a bit earlier than most - looking at Deerfoot northbound, it was backed up at least 2km by 7pm. Surprisingly little traffic coming off Stoney. Getting out? 40 minutes from parking spot to the Hwy 2 overpass. Good thing we had snacks and drinks. Plenty of cops directing traffic and signs everywhere pointing people to the ring road, etc - which was nice to see as I suspect most Calgarians had no idea before today where Centre St went.

On the mall itself: The parking lot was pretty packed but there were lots of spots if you have legs enough to walk. Surprisingly not busy once you got inside; Chinook is much more crowded during the last days of the xmas rush. About the only annoying part was stopping regularly as someone in front of a wave of people stopped to gawk and take pictures (I have none, sorry). The mall does have some "interesting" elements but it's a lot less tacky than I feared. WEM has more stupid stuff by far. Food court is freaking HUGE and packed with people, and some annoying caterwauling which I suspect was designed to motivate people to leave, thereby freeing up seats (this may have been some random "celebrity" from Who Wants to Marry a Dancing American Idol or something, I didn't look).

On the stores: Actually better than I expected. Many, many stores I've never seen outside of larger US centres or maybe Toronto. Neat games/hot tub store that has re-conditioned classic arcade and pinball games (not too many, and insanely overpriced - like $4000 - but still, something different for a mall). Just about all of the stores were not busy at all which made them nice to wander in and out of, but doesn't speak well for business. I bet Saturday will see things pick up as people were clearly playing tourist for the most part.

On the underwear: I have to point this out specifically as I know a lot of you will very soon post "never gonna go there!!". Well, if you have a female in your life, it's worth it just for this alone. The La Senza is huge, and La Vie En Rose is positively MASSIVE, with far, far more selection than I've ever seen in a lingerie shop. If you know a gal who isn't a fan of lacy thongs, but doesn't want to shop Wal-Mart, she will love this mall (yes boys, there is a very large middle ground there contrary to what most shops seem to sell these days). Biggest PJ selection I've ever seen, too.

Other than that, it's a mall. If you're not a mall/chain store shopper then obviously this isn't going to do anything for you. If you are, you definitely should check this out. There are many new stores to Calgary (I've heard 20 but I'd swear it felt like twice that). Many stores claim to be "outlet" stores and while that's technically true, they're not massively discounted as most people think of outlet stores these days. There are a few exceptions - the Nine West outlet was mostly $120 shoes on sale for $30 in the same style they have in US outlet malls. There are a few high end shops that were empty (again, everyone was mostly playing tourists).

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I find that shopping as a whole in Canada sucks when comparing to the USA.
Sucks in terms of price, selection and sometimes shopping experience.
I can't say for Canada, but definetly Calgary shopping sucks compared to the US... that's why about 90% of clothes shopping I've done in the last 6 years has happened south of the border. Hopefully CrossIron will change that, but probably not!
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Old Posted Aug 20, 2009, 5:42 PM
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I can't say for Canada, but definetly Calgary shopping sucks compared to the US... that's why about 90% of clothes shopping I've done in the last 6 years has happened south of the border. Hopefully CrossIron will change that, but probably not!
Yeah, baby steps. I too do most of my clothes shopping in the US (but it's getting better here, just slowly).
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Neat games/hot tub store that has re-conditioned classic arcade and pinball games (not too many, and insanely overpriced - like $4000 - but still, something different for a mall).
ok now i have to go.
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ok now i have to go.
That piqued my interest as well. I used to own Pinbot and Twilight Zone. I kind of regret selling them now.
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Old Posted Aug 20, 2009, 8:21 PM
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From memory, they had Junk Yard and Stargate pinball tables, plus 2-3 others all of similar recency. Pins were $3-4000; they looked in damn good shape but still, that's a lot of coin.

In terms of video games, they had an original Burgertime which was pretty cool, plus several of the modern emulator-with-legal-roms style which Costco has sold in the past couple of years. What was VERY cool was what looked to be a 1960s/early 70s model of lightgun game - all mechanical with old-fashioned wheels to keep score, etc. THAT is something worth the $2000 asking price as I've seen maybe 2 or 3 of them in my entire life. But $2-3000 for Burgertime? No thanks. That's about 5-10x what the thing is worth.
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Old Posted Aug 20, 2009, 9:14 PM
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From memory, they had Junk Yard and Stargate pinball tables, plus 2-3 others all of similar recency. Pins were $3-4000; they looked in damn good shape but still, that's a lot of coin.

In terms of video games, they had an original Burgertime which was pretty cool, plus several of the modern emulator-with-legal-roms style which Costco has sold in the past couple of years. What was VERY cool was what looked to be a 1960s/early 70s model of lightgun game - all mechanical with old-fashioned wheels to keep score, etc. THAT is something worth the $2000 asking price as I've seen maybe 2 or 3 of them in my entire life. But $2-3000 for Burgertime? No thanks. That's about 5-10x what the thing is worth.
I haven't priced out a pinball game in ages, but I think I paid around $1600 for Pinbot and closer to 2 grand for Twilight Zone. Both were pretty clean machines but were used. I manged to sell them for what I paid for them.

I think one would tire of Burgertime pretty quickly. I remember playing it when I was a kid and it wasn't one of my favourites.
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I have a Black Knight pinball machine that I paid $700 for, and a flat top Ms. Pac-Man that was $500. $4000 seems like a lot; but they are really fun!

I like Burgertime...I don't think it's really different than any other game from that era. Two or three different maps, and they repeat over and over again.
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Old Posted Aug 20, 2009, 11:57 PM
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Yeah, Burgertime is tedious as all hell. The really annoying part of the early 80s cabinets is that it can be hard to put in another game board without major manual re-wiring (and in many cases it just isn't possible). So it's not like you can buy this one, and pick up a cheap board of an actual good game off eBay or something.

Twilight Zone was one of the best pins of its day. That, Addams Family, and Tales From the Crypt probably swallowed 2 grand worth of my quarters.
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I decided to check out CIM today. It was busy but not ridiculous, and there are some good deals to be had. Tommy Hilfiger Polo shirts for $15 that are regular $68. I didn't expect deals like this so I ended up doing more shopping than I was planning. I was paying the same prices that I paid for similar items at outlets in the US!!

Worth the drive for the opening sales if you do really need things. No line-ups during the weekday either.
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Yep, my parents decided to go check it out as well today. Didn't buy much but did grab a few things, they did say the stores were quiet but the corridors were relatively busy. My dads biggest complaint was with how the parking lot is designed, overall he said it wasn't bad. He did say he feels for whoever has to clean the place though, even just in the corridors theres a lot of floorspace, and furniture everywhere.
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Old Posted Aug 21, 2009, 4:22 AM
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My dads biggest complaint was with how the parking lot is designed, overall he said it wasn't bad.
It does suffer in one respect - there are a LOT of spots nowhere close to a door. Because of the mall's design there don't seem to be many entrances and the anchor tenants don't seem to have doors on the outside, so parking by an anchor means sweet diddly if you actually try to get in. At least, that's what we encountered by Winners/Homesense.

Not that walking is a huge deal, but with much of Calgary shopping having underground/covered parking, I think it will work against them in the middle of winter.
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Yeah, I think he was referring more to the one way only design that forces you to currently make a loop around the entire mall to get out. Of course this won't be an issue once the Metis extension and the south overpass are built, but for now I can understand why it would be a bit annoying.
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New shops opening at Southcentre Mall:

Fossil - September 09
Crate & Barrel - October 09
Bose - November 09
Roots - August 09
Murale - TBA

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Has Chinook Centre released a list of tenants for their expansion?
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Has Chinook Centre released a list of tenants for their expansion?
Some of the stores coming have just been updated on their new website.

BCBG MaxAzria
Coach
Diesel
Geox
Guess
Harry Rosen
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Michael Kors
Oakley
Skechers
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