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Old Posted May 27, 2009, 2:52 PM
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Yeah, because Lord knows, we need to spend $4 Billion dollars on a subway station at the WTC - one that's already open and working well...

Please. I'm with Silverstein on this one. He's not asking the PA to pay for anything, and if they had gotten off of their a$$es and gotten these sites prepared years earlier when they should have - [i]before the credit crises hit, these towers could have been well on his way into the sky by now.

Too may people, yourself obviously included, like to mesh this WTC office with the ordinary, which it is not. Everyone hada responsibility, the PA included, to see this site rebuilt as swiftly as possible after those 9/11 attacks. Should it be a priority of the PA or the state? It damn well should have been and it damn well needs to be.
Well said. It's hard to imagine so many people only looking at "bottom lines" with regard to the WTC. If the Statue of Liberty had been destroyed, would it have been left in ruins under the guise of "the economy's just not right for a statue"?
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They probably wouldn't have left it in ruins, they'd just build the base
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Old Posted May 28, 2009, 12:16 AM
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They probably wouldn't have left it in ruins, they'd just build the base
If the PA were involved, you may well be right.

From the PA: "Well, given the current state of the economy, we don't see enough tourists demand to justify building the full statue right now. In fact, we are hearing from many people that the statue itself could be a terrorist target, and they also feel uncomfortable with the "statue of liberty" name. We will now refer to it as 1 Monument Center, which will be its legal name if we have anything to say about it...."
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If the PA were involved, you may well be right.

From the PA: "Well, given the current state of the economy, we don't see enough tourists demand to justify building the full statue right now. In fact, we are hearing from many people that the statue itself could be a terrorist target, and they also feel uncomfortable with the "statue of liberty" name. We will now refer to it as 1 Monument Center, which will be its legal name if we have anything to say about it...."
That sound exactly like what the PA would say. Damn coward's!!!
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Nothing going with 2 and 3 (from wtc.com - June 3)

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If they wait on this one maybe we could see a height increase, they could extend the roof height to 1,362 feet (the same height of the former tower 2 roof) and raising the top of the spire to roughly 1,442 feet. Both towers 1 and 2 would have the same roof heights of the original 1 and 2.
This would probably be the best outcome at this point. Larry should focus on building one tower (combining twr 2 and 3) and simply raise the height. It doesn't have to be symbolic height but if I were him I would build it taller than twr 1 (Freedom Twr) just to stick it to the Port Auth!
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This would probably be the best outcome at this point. Larry should focus on building one tower (combining twr 2 and 3) and simply raise the height. It doesn't have to be symbolic height but if I were him I would build it taller than twr 1 (Freedom Twr) just to stick it to the Port Auth!
It's not just about the height. Larry Silverstein has a limited amount of office space he is allowed to build on this site, and he'll have it constructed the best way to maximize rents and get it leased. He won't screw up the configuration just to piss off the PA.
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Silver hints W.T.C. consensus is to build more towers

By Julie Shapiro
June 5 - 11, 2009


The negotiations about the future of the World Trade Center site have been going on behind closed doors, but on Friday, Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver gave the first hint of what is happening.

The consensus among the stakeholders appears to be shifting toward developer Silverstein Properties’ goal of building as many office towers as possible with the Port Authority’s help, Silver said.

“That’s the purpose,” Silver said in an interview with Downtown Express. “Build more, and build more now. That is our purpose.”


Silverstein cannot build his Church St. office towers on his own because he cannot get construction financing. The Port has agreed to help with Tower 4 but refused to backstop the financing for Tower 2, saying Silverstein can build it when the economy improves and the Port should not be expected to take the risk of financing offices on spec for a private developer. In place of Tower 2 and the neighboring Tower 3, the Port wants to build temporary six-story retail podiums.

But Silver said Friday that now is the time to build the office towers, allying himself very closely with Silverstein’s position. Silver added that Gov. Jon Corzine and Gov. David Paterson are both being “cooperative” in the goal of building more towers now, and Mayor Michael Bloomberg has previously expressed support for building despite the economic downturn.

That is not to say that the stakeholders have sided entirely with Silverstein against the Port Authority. Silver and Bloomberg have called on Silverstein to devote more money to the project, and on Friday Silver said an agreement would require all the parties to make further investments.

“They’re trying to work through a conclusion that has everybody put in a little more: the Port Authority, the city, the state, and most important, Larry Silverstein,” Silver said. “And I hope to get there.”

The closed-door meetings began after an impasse between Silverstein and the Port Authority over the tower financing and delivery of key site infrastructure threatened to halt progress at the site. Alarmed by that prospect, Silver called all the site stakeholders together, and they held their first meeting May 21 at Gracie Mansion, at Bloomberg’s invitation. The meeting included Bloomberg, Silver, both governors, Larry Silverstein and Port Authority executive director Chris Ward.

Since then, Silver said there have been three major meetings with top stakeholders including Larry Silverstein. Those three meetings were held quietly and out of the public eye, often at odd times of the day, Silver said. In addition, Deputy Mayor Bob Lieber has been chairing daily meetings of lower-level staff representing all the parties, a source familiar with the discussions said.

The next publicly announced meeting of the principals will be Thurs., June 11, and the stakeholders have said they hope to have at least the broad outlines of an agreement by then.

“We’re not there yet,” Silver said Friday. “It’s a matter of money, it’s a matter of commitment, it’s a matter of saving money, it’s a matter of refocusing so we can get a result.”

Bloomberg’s office and Silverstein Properties declined to comment. Steve Coleman, Port spokesperson, said only, “Our position on the Port Authority putting in any more money or risk has not changed.”

All the parties involved have been reluctant to talk after Bloomberg made it clear he wanted the negotiations to be entirely private.

“We’re all sworn to secrecy,” Silver told Downtown Express, explaining why he could not go into more detail.

But Silver did repeat his position that now is the time to build Towers 2 and 4, even though the economy is down.

“We’ll be in a different business cycle by 2014 or 2015,” Silver said. “And there are some people who think, there is no other development going on in the city, no other office space. If you look at all the studies, everybody will tell you there’s going to be a need for expanded commercial space in New York City.”

Silver listed the other office projects that are falling through, from Hudson Yards to Atlantic Yards, which will make the World Trade Center towers all the more important.

“New York, Downtown Manhattan, ground zero is going to be the place to go,” Silver said.

Silver said the rebuilt World Trade Center could follow the example of the original Twin Towers, which initially filled with government offices because there was little demand for commercial space.

Silver’s first district office was in room 5489 of 2 W.T.C., he recalled, and later he was moved down to the 26th floor as the real estate grew more valuable. Finally, he was moved out of the building altogether.

“Hopefully there will be a market for it,” Silver said of the new office towers at the site, “and we can prepare for it.”
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A little more from that Downtown Express article...
http://www.downtownexpress.com/de_319/wtctalksfocus.html

W.T.C. talks focus on towers & money, not podiums

By Julie Shapiro

[quote] Going into that meeting, the consensus among the stakeholders appears to be shifting toward developer Silverstein Properties’ goal of building as many office towers as possible with the Port Authority’s help, Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver told Downtown Express last week.

“That’s the purpose,” Silver said in an interview with editors and reporters last Friday. “Build more, and build more now. That is our purpose.”

In place of Tower 2 and the neighboring Tower 3, the Port wants to build temporary six-story retail podiums.

No one is arguing for Tower 3 to be built immediately and Silverstein appears willing to accept a podium there, but he is still fighting for Tower 2.

On Friday, Silver allied himself closely with Silverstein by agreeing that now is the time to build Tower 2. Silver added that Gov. Jon Corzine and Gov. David Paterson are both being “cooperative” in the goal of building more towers now, and Mayor Michael Bloomberg has previously expressed support for building despite the economic downturn.

On Monday, three days after Silver’s comments appeared on DowntownExpress.com, The New York Times’ Web site reported that the city proposed to backstop $100 million of the financing to build Tower 2, which indicates Bloomberg’s support for the tower. However, the Times also reported that Corzine and Paterson are reluctant to make similar financial commitments because of their already tight budgets.

Silver said Friday that an agreement would require all parties to make further investments.

“They’re trying to work through a conclusion that has everybody put in a little more: the Port Authority, the city, the state, and most important, Larry Silverstein,” Silver said. “And I hope to get there.”

The Port Authority has offered additional help to Silverstein on Tower 2, but not as much as Silverstein wants, according to a rebuilding source who confirmed to Downtown Express the financial numbers in the Times article. The developer turned down a proposal in which the Port would help with the financing if Silverstein put in an additional $370 million of his own money and $430 million of insurance money.

“We remain far apart on a second tower because of how much more public money is required to fund this speculative office building,” Stephen Sigmund, a Port spokesperson, said in a statement. “Our position continues to be that the public’s resources are better spent on public projects first, not more private office space.”

In a counterproposal to the Port Authority, Silverstein suggested that he take over much of the infrastructure work on the eastern side of the site, near his towers, including the demolition of the old temporary PATH station and the rebuilding of Greenwich St., another source involved in the rebuilding said. This source said Silverstein, who would charge development fees for the work, would still save the Port Authority money because private companies can move more quickly than government agencies.

There had been three major meetings with top stakeholders including Larry Silverstein since then, Silver said last week. Those three meetings were held quietly and out of the public eye, often at odd times of the day, Silver said. In addition, Deputy Mayor Bob Lieber has been chairing daily meetings of lower-level staff representing all the parties, the second rebuilding source said.

The next publicly announced meeting of the principals will be June 11. Although the Port Authority and Silverstein disagree vehemently on the financing for Tower 2, a few people involved said this week that the outlines of an agreement could still come by Thursday.

“We’re not there yet,” Silver said Friday. “It’s a matter of money, it’s a matter of commitment, it’s a matter of saving money, it’s a matter of refocusing so we can get a result.”

Bloomberg’s office and Silverstein Properties declined to comment.

All the parties involved have been reluctant to talk after Bloomberg made it clear he wanted the negotiations to be entirely private.

“We’re all sworn to secrecy,” Silver told Downtown Express, explaining why he could not go into more detail.

But Silver did repeat his position that now is the time to build Towers 2 and 4, even though the economy is down.

“We’ll be in a different business cycle by 2014 or 2015,” Silver said. “And there are some people who think, there is no other development going on in the city, no other office space. If you look at all the studies, everybody will tell you there’s going to be a need for expanded commercial space in New York City.”

Silver listed the other office projects that are falling through, from Hudson Yards to Atlantic Yards, which will make the World Trade Center towers all the more important.

“New York, Downtown Manhattan, ground zero is going to be the place to go,” Silver said.

Silver said the rebuilt World Trade Center could follow the example of the original Twin Towers, which initially filled with government offices because there was little demand for commercial space.

Silver’s first district office was in room 5489 of 2 W.T.C., he recalled, and later he was moved down to the 26th floor as the real estate grew more valuable. Finally, he was moved out of the building altogether.

“Hopefully there will be a market for it,” Silver said of the new office towers at the site, “and we can prepare for it.”
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please god, let this pearl of beauty shine! it would be a horrible mistake not to build this tower! i hope and pray that silverstein is going to win through.
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please god, let this pearl of beauty shine! it would be a horrible mistake not to build this tower! i hope and pray that silverstein is going to win through.
Even if now now, it will in time. Also, hopefully if there is a wait one good thing may be an increase in height in either tower 2 or 3 if either of them is to sucure a large tenant!
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please god, let this pearl of beauty shine! it would be a horrible mistake not to build this tower! i hope and pray that silverstein is going to win through.
agreed! i think tower 3 might be the most beautiful in the new wtc complex --i think all buildings need to be there for the site to fully restore and even exceed what was lost. i would have preferred tower 3 being built over tower 4 -- it has an old-school charm a la ESB but very 21st-century at the same time.

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Dead aside from some excavation for the PATH.


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Dead aside from some excavation for the PATH.
There will be no activity there until this dispute between the Port Authority and Silverstein is resolved...


http://www.downtownexpress.com/de_224/mayorsaysjersey.html
Mayor says Jersey might solve World Trade Center stalemate

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July 10 - 16, 2009


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The mayor and Silver both blamed the Port Authority for not budging in the negotiations over when to build Tower 2 and how to pay for it. And in the surest sign that talks were going nowhere, Silverstein and the Port loosened their resistance to making their cases directly to the public.

Perhaps the only indication that a compromise settlement was not impossible was Bloomberg’s statement to reporters Tuesday in which surprisingly, he said the New Jersey faction of the Port was being “very helpful” in trying to bridge the gap.

Bloomberg said he has spoken with New Jersey Gov. Jon Corzine on the W.T.C. dispute several times and the governor “has been pushing [Port chairperson] Anthony Coscia, a very competent person who’s … Corzine’s representative. And Coscia’s as smart and as competent a person as you can find and Corzine assured me that he was pressuring Coscia to find a solution to the problem and from what I understand from [Dep. Mayor Robert] Lieber, in fact Coscia has been very helpful.”

The Port, by all accounts, has agreed to help Silverstein complete Tower 4 under construction near the corner of Church and Liberty Sts., but is against putting more money into Tower 2 at the northeast corner of the site.

....“They’re doing well on Tower 4,” Sigmund said. “We hope it continues. They could start building Tower 3 and 2 tomorrow if they had the financing.”

Sigmund said although the Port has not finished preparing the Tower 2 and 3 sites, Silverstein could begin initial work. The firm disputes the point, and says it is not even allowed to be on the sites.

At the end of last year, the Port claimed it had finished preparing the Tower 2 and 4 sites, but an arbitrator ruled that was not true since the agency left a 200-foot wall on the Tower 4 site. In January, Ward acknowledged in an interview with Downtown Express that officials may have been “overly aggressive” in asserting that Silverstein could work around the wall.
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Port Authority Makes an Offer Silverstein Can Refuse

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July 10, 2009

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The offer, at least according to a letter sent by the Port Authority, which owns the World Trade Center site, to Mr. Silverstein, calls for the following:

-The Port Authority would back $1.2 billion in debt on Tower 2, estimated to cost $2.4 billion.

-Silverstein Properties would have to raise $625 million in debt that would be subordinate to the Port Authority’s debt. (This means the Port Authority’s debt would be repaid first if Silverstein defaulted.) That would certainly make it harder to raise the money, though Silverstein would have around two years to do so, as the foundations and below-grade work that needs to get done anyway is extensive. (Though the proposal seems to imply constructing the same below-grade for the tower regardless of whether or not it is actually built, or remains as a small podium.)

-An abatement of Silverstein’s ground rent over the next 12 years, accounting for about $770 million off the full ground rent the Authority is currently expecting. (This would lighten the load some for the Silverstein team in its attempt to finance the tower. But, with that said, it’s hard to see a scenario where the full ground rent of more than $80 million a year would come in, given that all the proposals under discussion call for at least one of the planned three towers on the site to be indefinitely delayed.)
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PA'S $1B CAN'T BREAK SILVERSTEIN WTC IMPASSE

By TOM TOPOUSIS
July 11, 2009

The Port Authority's bid to put up more than $1 billion to back the construction of an office tower at Ground Zero doesn't appear to have gone far enough to end an impasse with developer Larry Silverstein, sources said.

The agency this week for the first time offered to help with financing for the construction of two of Silverstein's three proposed office towers -- but sources familiar with the negotiations say the developer is unlikely to accept the latest offer.

Under the latest proposal, the PA would guarantee up to $1.2 billion financing for construction of Tower 2, which would lower the interest rate Silverstein would have to pay. The agency has agreed to a less costly deal for Tower 4, which is under construction.

But the new offer would require that Silverstein raise privately another $625 million for the project, which officials believe would be extremely difficult in the current real-estate market.

Unlike Tower 4, which has the PA and the city as tenants, Tower 2 has no commitments from potential tenants.

Silverstein on Monday told the PA he will be taking his grievances over construction timetables to an arbitration panel.
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Silverstein makes its case to C.B. 1

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July 10 - 16, 2009

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Lieber found plenty to criticize in the proposal’s substance when he spoke to Community Board 1 Monday night, and he even questioned whether the Port had meant it as a serious offer. The Port’s plan would require Silverstein to raise $625 million for Tower 2, which Lieber said is next to impossible given the frozen credit markets.

If Silverstein raises the money, the Port would then backstop up to $1.2 billion to finance Tower 2 and would also backstop financing for Tower 4, as previously offered.

A Port official, speaking on condition of anonymity, pointed out that under the proposal, Silverstein has two years to raise the $625 million for Tower 2. During that time, the official said, Silverstein can build the belowground portion of the tower. Then, if Silverstein can’t raise the money, Silverstein can build a shorter retail podium instead, the official said.

Lieber, though, said building a retail podium rather than a tower would necessitate an entirely different belowground structure. Some of Tower 2’s security features are in the tower itself and would have to be relocated, Lieber said. While people often think of construction as LEGO, where each piece snaps together independently, Lieber said Tower 2’s design is much more complex and interconnected.

“You cannot just start a building and say, ‘Well, I’ll decide later whether I’m going to finish it,’” Lieber said. He said the firm needs to know that the tower will rise before construction can begin.


Steve Sigmund, Port spokesperson, said replacing Tower 2 with a podium would not require a redesign of the belowground structure.

Sigmund added that the Port’s offer to help with both Tower 2 and Tower 4 is a generous one.

“The bottom line is if Silverstein won’t even accept this significant compromise proposal,” Sigmund said, “it’s clear that no amount of money is good enough and the only thing Silverstein will accept is a fully subsidized [building].”

Silverstein has previously offered to put undisclosed amounts of his own money into Tower 2, but not enough to satisfy the Port. Silverstein is still reviewing the Port’s proposal and has not yet responded formally.
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Steve Sigmund, Port spokesperson, said replacing Tower 2 with a podium would not require a redesign of the belowground structure.
And he would know, being a professional archictect, engineer, and security expert. Oh, wait.

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Sigmund added that the Port’s offer to help with both Tower 2 and Tower 4 is a generous one.

“The bottom line is if Silverstein won’t even accept this significant compromise proposal,” Sigmund said, “it’s clear that no amount of money is good enough and the only thing Silverstein will accept is a fully subsidized [building].”
Pity the benevolent Port Authority, stretching forth its bounteous toll-engorged hand that it might calm the eeeeeeeevil private real estate developer bent on undermining and destroying the kind and wonderful government agency...

I could just puke.
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Pity the benevolent Port Authority, stretching forth its bounteous toll-engorged hand that it might calm the eeeeeeeevil private real estate developer bent on undermining and destroying the kind and wonderful government agency...

I could just puke.
Right. They want to hide behind the "pubic good" when it's in their interests to do so, but public be damned when the PA wants to have its own way.
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