Residential Garbage Pick-up Hamilton - Page 3

highwater · #41 Posted **Jul 31, 2009, 5:01 PM**

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Originally Posted by oldcoote

Hi Omro

Straws are not recyclable.

Strangely, neither are coffee cups.

http://www.myhamilton.ca/myhamilton/...steManagement/

Paper coffee cups are compostable, however.

highwater · #42 Posted **Jul 31, 2009, 5:12 PM**

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Originally Posted by mic67

"SteelTown Retard is an offensive term which is an unacceptable language. You should know, before signing up as a member you should have understood the rules."

Nowhere has that word been expressly determined an offensive word, nor would I expect that it would be in any legitimate forum.

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Originally Posted by mic67

Flar
As far as the word "retard(ed)" goes that could not be further from being a curse word. Yep I did slip a profanity in there, as a kind of test, and it seems I reeled one in on that... you can remove the hook any time, I did....mic67

Are these examples of the 'diversity and truth' you bring to this forum? As someone with developmentally challenged family members, and who has worked with developmentally challenged children and adults in the past, I find your use of the term 'retard' extremely offensive. Kindly find a more 'diverse' way to express yourself.

highwater · #43 Posted **Jul 31, 2009, 5:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by bigguy1231

We used to clean it up, but now we call the city to do it. If they don't send anyone, which is more often than not, we pick it up and stuff it in the storm sewers. When we call to tell them the sewers plugged they clean it right away.

How charming. Just don't blame the city for your own anti-social behaviour.

mic67 · #44 Posted **Jul 31, 2009, 5:29 PM**

Retard(ed) is not an offensive or curse word...if you choose to be offended...so be it.

Cheers
Mic67

highwater · #45 Posted **Jul 31, 2009, 5:37 PM**

'Retard' is an objectively offensive word as it denigrates people with developmental disabilities in the same way that racial epithets denigrate visible minorities. The idea that I am somehow 'choosing' to be offended is utter nonsense. The term has no place in a civil discussion. If you have any respect for this forum you will cease its use immediately.

mic67 · #46 Posted **Jul 31, 2009, 5:51 PM**

"highwater 'Retard' is an objectively offensive word as it denigrates people with developmental disabilities in the same way that racial epithets denigrate visible minorities. The idea that I am somehow 'choosing' to be offended is utter nonsense. The term has no place in a civil discussion. If you have any respect for this forum you will cease its use immediately."

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Life is about choices, if you are offended you chose to be, I didnt. Now are we to get into or create a list of non-curse words that are, or at least viewed by some as offensive?

How about:
stupid
idiot
idiotic
moron
fool
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"highwater 'Retard' is an objectively offensive word as it denigrates people with developmental disabilities in the same way that racial epithets denigrate visible minorities.
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So says you. Not says I.

" If you have any respect for this forum you will cease its use immediately."

Again:

So says you. Not says I.

...No electrons were harmed in the creation of this message

mic67

highwater · #47 Posted **Jul 31, 2009, 5:59 PM**

No. You don't get to knowingly use an offensive term then disingenuously accuse others of 'choosing' to be offended. You are engaging in anti-social behaviour that makes your contempt for this forum plain, and reveals your statement that you bring 'diversity and truth' to the forum to be the hilariously self-aggrandizing claim that it is.

flar · #48 Posted **Jul 31, 2009, 6:04 PM**

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Originally Posted by mic67

" If you have any respect for this forum you will cease its use immediately."

So says I.

Now knock it off mic67

adam · #49 Posted **Jul 31, 2009, 8:20 PM**

mic67 is on my ignore list. so says i.

Zaz · #50 Posted **Jul 31, 2009, 8:27 PM**

Geez, all this drama... It's almost a guilty pleasure, like reading a tabloid, I suppose.

Happy Friday everyone, let's make nice.

adam · #51 Posted **Jul 31, 2009, 8:33 PM**

Here is a document from the Hamilton website that addresses a lot of the confusion being faced by Mic and Bigguy.
http://www.myhamilton.ca/NR/rdonlyre...Tips120407.pdf
You can learn how to recycle, compost and how to decrease the amount of garbage you produce. It can be hard to start - for me it was probably around 10 years ago when I started using a blue bin, and when I first moved to Hamilton I started using a green bin - but its never too late to start!

highwater · #52 Posted **Jul 31, 2009, 9:37 PM**

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Originally Posted by Zaz

Happy Friday everyone, let's make nice.

How about a virtual cocktail as a peace offering?

Highwater's Holistic Cosmo: 2oz vodka, 1oz triple sec, 1oz organic cranberry juice, 1oz organic lime juice (both avail. at Fortinos).

And now the Highwaters are off for a much needed vacation, so won't be able to respond to the heaps of abuse. Godspeed Skyscrappers.

emge · #53 Posted **Aug 1, 2009, 2:41 AM**

Sounds good to me.

On the original topic of garbage pickup, I use recycling bins, but I'm in a converted house (multiple units) where it's impossible to use a green bin (it'll stink up my deck and hence my bedroom window, and there's nowhere else to put it on the property because of our alley/backyard/parking setup) and it kills me - probably 3/4 of the garbage I do throw out is compostable food waste. Even with that, though, the two of us put out less than a bag a week, including kitty litter.

I have some friends who live on the 25th floor of an apartment that doesn't even have recycling possible or any bins at all, since the building wasn't built with any facilities/chutes for it. I'm surprised we don't have a recycling retrofit requirement for apartments here, at least for high-rises.

I take some solace in noticing that the nearby hospital has switched from aerosol hand sanitizer cans to plastic (ostensibly recyclable?) packets in dispensers.. that alone saves hundreds if not thousands of aerosol containers a day.

omro · #54 Posted **Aug 1, 2009, 3:14 AM**

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Originally Posted by emge

Sounds good to me.

On the original topic of garbage pickup, I use recycling bins, but I'm in a converted house (multiple units) where it's impossible to use a green bin (it'll stink up my deck and hence my bedroom window, and there's nowhere else to put it on the property because of our alley/backyard/parking setup) and it kills me - probably 3/4 of the garbage I do throw out is compostable food waste.

Do you have enough room in your fridge to store the green waste? That's where we store ours most of the time.

emge · #55 Posted **Aug 1, 2009, 4:34 AM**

That's a good idea, but I don't think there would be. (And the green bin now belongs to our neighbours downstairs, since we weren't using it).

But I'll keep that in mind for the future. I had heard of freezing it, but it definitely wouldn't fit in the freezer.

What I'd really like to have eventually is my own compost bin in the back corner of a long backyard! (Though this summer we've made a good start on a perennial container garden - that'll have to do for now).

bigguy1231 · #56 Posted **Aug 1, 2009, 6:44 AM**

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Originally Posted by adam

I am in Burlington every day and have never seen garbage left at the side of the road. What street are you talking about?

I to am in Burlington everyday, mostly in the industrial areas North of the QEW, and there are garbage bags all over. People who dump garbage are not going to do it on main streets, too many witnesses. At work we have even caught people trying to dump household garbage in our bins.

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Originally Posted by highwater

How charming. Just don't blame the city for your own anti-social behaviour.

Where is it written that I have to pick up after other people, the crap is all over the streets, I pay alot of taxes in this city for certain services, one of those services is street cleaning. If the city is not going to do anything about it then we, meaning my neighbors and myself will find a way to make them do it. Plugging up the sewers works. They come and clean it up. This isn't something that we have done on the spur of the moment. We have been complaining to the city for years and they have done nothing to stop the flow of garbage comming from the commercial properties abutting the neighborhood. So yes I do have a right to blame the city. Before you go spouting off about anti-social behaviour, maybe you should take a look at yourself. Your the one who is completely out of touch with reality and going against the grain. Your views are that of a very small minority.

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Originally Posted by adam

Here is a document from the Hamilton website that addresses a lot of the confusion being faced by Mic and Bigguy.
http://www.myhamilton.ca/NR/rdonlyre...Tips120407.pdf
You can learn how to recycle, compost and how to decrease the amount of garbage you produce. It can be hard to start - for me it was probably around 10 years ago when I started using a blue bin, and when I first moved to Hamilton I started using a green bin - but its never too late to start!

Is everyone on this forum mentally challenged, it sure seems that way. Most of you obviously have trouble with reading comprehension. Where did I say that I do not recycle. I have 2 blue boxes that I fill each week as well as a green bin. I also stated that I only half fill a small garbage can each week, equivalant to maybe 2 grocery bags. With the limits imposed by the city, I am not going to be responsible for picking up after others though. I won't take the chance of not having enough room for my garbage. If the city is going to demand that I limit my garbage then they are going to be held responsible to their obligation to keep my street clean.

highwater · #57 Posted **Aug 1, 2009, 3:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by bigguy1231

Before you go spouting off about anti-social behaviour, maybe you should take a look at yourself. Your the one who is completely out of touch with reality and going against the grain. Your views are that of a very small minority.

Er, no. It is not a small minority who think it is wrong to stuff our sewers with garbage. Stuffing sewers with garbage is no better than tagging. You are in the wrong which is bad enough, but trying to blame the city for your actions is childish and irresponsible.

realcity · #58 Posted **Aug 1, 2009, 3:53 PM**

i burned my greenbin.... after I tried to throw it out, they wouldn't take it.

freezing is ridiculous, the energy used to freeze it is more polluting then organic waste which will turn into soil naturally no matter where its dumped. Apples fall off trees if they aren't picked.... sit on the ground and rot and compost.

adam · #59 Posted **Aug 1, 2009, 4:19 PM**

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Originally Posted by bigguy1231

I to am in Burlington everyday, mostly in the industrial areas North of the QEW, and there are garbage bags all over. People who dump garbage are not going to do it on main streets, too many witnesses. At work we have even caught people trying to dump household garbage in our bins.

What street are you talking about?

adam · #60 Posted **Aug 1, 2009, 4:22 PM**

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Originally Posted by realcity

freezing is ridiculous, the energy used to freeze it is more polluting then organic waste which will turn into soil naturally no matter where its dumped. Apples fall off trees if they aren't picked.... sit on the ground and rot and compost.

This is absolutely wrong. A full freezer is more energy efficient than an empty freezer. The only exception is if the freezer is NEVER opened.