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Old Posted Jul 24, 2009, 5:29 AM
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does anyone know what the heck this little plot of grass is for?
it's so damn odd.

- it's locked on both ends
- there are 2 security cameras overlooking the site
- and there's a sprinkler system to water the grass

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I've seen some other forumers and flickr people pose the same question, too, but never had anyone answer why it's there.
When it's not so dry, that grass is possibly the nicest patch of grass in all of downtown! Must be a pretty valuable piece of land. Crazy...
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 24, 2009, 7:08 AM
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Those poles are very handy during the drunken, 2am brawls...

Aside from that this flex parking idea is yet another half way solution that we love around here. Just close the damn street for traffic permanently. It has been closed for traffic for 3 years and I don't see the traffic or business downtown suffering because of it. I mean who goes to Granville street to park anyway? Does somebody actually go - mmm...— store! let me park and buy me some? You go to Granville because it's a destination street...and perhaps to buy that —...
lol - parking for dildos... I totally agree though. I just don't see how any club/restaurant could provide decent outdoor space with the upgrades, and I thought that is what all those places wanted. And Granville should be the entertainment street where people have space to walk, or stumble, around.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 25, 2009, 8:43 AM
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i took a few pics but my photobucket is out of bandwidth

the edge lounge looks ok on granville - really helps that horrible plaza - the patio adds some life

a few places are getting redone - like the old buffalo club - any idea what it will be?

the old mack leather looks completely transformed - can't recognize it
     
     
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I've seen some other forumers and flickr people pose the same question, too, but never had anyone answer why it's there.
When it's not so dry, that grass is possibly the nicest patch of grass in all of downtown! Must be a pretty valuable piece of land. Crazy...
i've talked to the owner of the restaurant to the west of that lot (alpha bar) about this lot before

he told me that the landlord for his building is the same landlord for the empty lot, and even he can't get any info about what the point of the empty lot is

it's a mystery
     
     
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Signage for the Keg in Yaletown is up (not sure how recent this is...). My blurry photo taken through my windshield during the lightning storm tonight:

     
     
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Old Posted Jul 26, 2009, 7:52 AM
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the plaza on alberni at bute is all cleared off trees and being ripped apart - and part of the building is being redone or something - are they glassing some of it for the new liquor store?

it looks horrible without those trees

i have pics but i can't post em
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 26, 2009, 1:57 PM
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i've talked to the owner of the restaurant to the west of that lot (alpha bar) about this lot before

he told me that the landlord for his building is the same landlord for the empty lot, and even he can't get any info about what the point of the empty lot is

it's a mystery
thanks guys. i guess this ones like the caramilk secret

there's some construction going on in david lam park which i thought was odd but turns out the city is building a permanent power supply station and bike parking -

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full report; http://vancouver.ca/ctyclerk/cclerk/20090602/documents/a12.pdf

"David Lam Park is used for special events such as the Jazz Festival. Pacific Boulevard adjacent to David Lam Park is used to park filming vehicles and trailers to support filming in the neighbourhood. For both special events and filming, electrical power is normally provided through the use of diesel generators. Diesel generators are expensive to rent and create
greenhouse gas emissions. Although modern generators are relatively quiet, they still have the potential to create nuisance noise impacts."

it doesn't say how many bikes the new parking will accomodate but

"The provision of convenient and secure bicycle parking near Games venues and LiveCity sites is an important component for ensuring that cycling is a viable and appealing travel option for spectators and for venue and LiveCity workforce."

based on this, i guess we're keeping both Olympic live sites (there was talk about getting rid of one of them)
     
     
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If I'm not mistaken BC Hydro is actually building a new link across the creek and it cuts thru the park. The upgrades to the park are being done now to take advantage of of the situation.
     
     
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Doesn't the city give a HUGE tax break if an empty lot is turned into garden or park land? Perhaps the owner did that, then convinced the city the grass was too fragile to turn into a public accessible park. Just guessing, but would make sense.
     
     
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thanks for the clarification jlousa.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 27, 2009, 1:06 PM
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If I'm not mistaken BC Hydro is actually building a new link across the creek and it cuts thru the park. The upgrades to the park are being done now to take advantage of of the situation.
you are correct good sir

http://www.bctc.com/projects/vcct/

Vancouver City Central Transmission (VCCT) Project

To ensure the continued safe and reliable supply of electricity for central Vancouver’s growing neighbourhoods, the local electrical transmission network needs to be expanded.

The extensive residential, commercial and institutional growth in central Vancouver requires new electrical infrastructure to keep pace with demand in the years to come. At the same time, the major underground transmission cable that currently links Vancouver’s north and south sides, as well as other existing infrastructure, is aging and needs to be replaced.

Having examined a number of possible solutions to these challenges, BC Transmission Corporation is proposing to build a new electrical substation and connect it to two existing substations with new underground 230 kilovolt (kV) transmission circuits.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 28, 2009, 7:31 AM
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the plaza on alberni at bute is all cleared off trees and being ripped apart - and part of the building is being redone or something - are they glassing some of it for the new liquor store?

it looks horrible without those trees

i have pics but i can't post em
I noticed it as well. I'm mixed on the trees - the prior plaza did have some hidden corners and covered areas that seemed to attact a lot of vagrants. I really hope that they engineer the space to prevent problematic behaviour, perhaps the trees may have come down because of it. I even hope they build out to streetfront to eliminate that public space if the liquor store is going to be there...
     
     
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Richards - 1066 Richards St. - selling briskly since relaunching with new prices in May
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Sunday, July, 26, 2009


Richards has just proved there's still life after the deep freeze.

Following a dismal winter in which B.C.'s housing market came to a standstill, the Richards condo project was the first downtown Vancouver development to take the plunge and attempt a pre-sale amidst economic turbulence this year.

The — paid off: With 80 per cent of the units sold, Richards has just become the poster boy for pre-sale success during economic uncertainty.

"The majority of it sold in two-and-a-half weeks," says Bob Rennie, whose firm Rennie Marketing Systems is handling the sales.

It's a complete reversal from the picture in September 2008, when Richards, located at Richards and Helmcken, attempted its first launch to depressing results.

At an average asking price of just under $800 per square foot, only 32 units sold.

"By the time we were approaching September '08 there was just this huge, hard stop in the market. We only got to 32 sold. So then we just sort of manned the presentation centre, trying to make a decision," said Rennie. " We went to all of our developers and said if you haven't started building, abstain. Nobody could've predicted what was going to happen."

The U.S. banking crisis had hit B.C. hard, with local developers running out of cash as Canadian and U.S. banks turned off the credit tap. Meanwhile, a global recession was setting in and the U.S. housing market was showing no signs stabilizing.

Rennie believes the global financial crisis of 2008 represented a major economic shift.

So, in order for business to continue, developers needed to make a similar shift.

In the case of Richards, that came down to one key factor: Price.

Today, the units are priced at an average of $600 per square foot, a price drop made possible by lower construction costs.

Rennie believed the time was right to relaunch in late May as there were few developments for sale in Downtown Vancouver and there were signs that consumer confidence was returning.

The timing proved to be right on track. There are now just 38 units still available out of 226.

Francesco Aquilini, owner of the Vancouver Canucks, is the developer behind Richards, which is targeting first-time buyers attracted to the Yaletown location.

The building will be located on the same site of Vancouver's long-standing iconic nightclub, Richard's on Richards, which had its last show on Sunday. (The club will be moving to a new location on Seymour Street.)

The remaining condos available range in size from 607 sq. ft. to 1,096 sq. ft., and are priced between $349,000 to $488,900 respectively. There are also several townhouses available, ranging in size from 1,055 sq. ft. to 1,235 sq.ft. They are priced between $599,900 to $633,900.

The only downgrade made to the suites to keep prices down was a switch from designer Eggersman kitchen cabinets to a no-name brand that features the same rich, walnut colour and soft-close cabinetry to prevent the slamming of doors.

In addition to building the 19-storey concrete-and-glass tower, Aquilini Development is also restoring two 100-year-old heritage homes that currently front onto Richards Street. Until recently, one of the houses belonged to Linda Rupa, a long-time resident who bought her yellow house in 1962 for $16,000. After holding out for years, Rupa relented two years ago and sold her property for $6 million.

Rupa's former home and another heritage home will be restored and moved to the corner of Richards and Helmcken, forming a row of heritage homes on Helmcken that pay homage to a Yaletown of the past.

The two houses are zoned live/work and are asking $1.379 million and $1.5 million.

The Facts

What: Richards, 226 condos and townhouses and two detached heritage homes.

Where: 1066 Richards St., Vancouver

Builder/Developer: Aquilini Development

Sizes: Remaining condos, 607 sq. ft. to 1,096 sq. ft; Townhouses, 1,055 sq. ft. to 1,235 sq. ft; Heritage homes, 1,489 sq. ft. and 1,783 sq. ft.

Prices: Remaining condos, $349,000 to $488,900; townhouses, $599,900 to $633,900; heritage homes, $1,379 million and $1.5 million.

Open: Presentation centre is currently being moved. Please call 604-688-2875 for details.

More info:

www.richardsliving.com

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Old Posted Jul 28, 2009, 6:04 PM
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"By the time we were approaching September '08 there was just this huge, hard stop in the market. We only got to 32 sold. So then we just sort of manned the presentation centre, trying to make a decision," said Rennie. " We went to all of our developers and said if you haven't started building, abstain. Nobody could've predicted what was going to happen."
Rennie is such tool--albeit a rich one. Nobody could have predicted what was going to happen?!? If Rennie truly believes this and is not just chilling, then he should start associating with more competent economists and financial prognosticators.

So a drop from 800 per sq. ft. to 600 per sq. ft. is--if I'm doing my math correctly--a drop of 25% in prices. Buy Vancouver real estate, before you're permanently priced out. What does that mean for the 32 suckers who purchased at 800/sq. ft? Have they now been permanently priced in? (By the way, have they been released from their pre-sale?)

Oh, and if you're looking to off-load your pre-sale to another buyer for a profit, read this carefully:

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Dear Condo Smarts: A word of warning for anyone who is considering or has entered into a presales agreement.

In 2005, I was doing business in Vancouver and fell in love with a proposed development on the waterfront. It was originally planned for occupancy in 2008, but as delays mounted it ended up being available in 2009.

Seems simple enough except I transferred (sold) my presales contract to a Vancouver buyer in 2007 for a $50,000 premium.

They in turn transferred the contract to a Toronto buyer in 2008 for another premium. Well, we thought after our sale, it was the end, never to come up again.

Last fall, the third presales agreement holder defaulted on their obligation to complete the sale. The developer, in an effort to recover the losses from the sale, proceeded with a court action that has ended back at our doorstep. With both the second and third buyers defaulting, the developer has named us in the lawsuit.

Even though we sold or assigned our presales agreement, we did not discharge our obligation to the developer with their written consent, to complete the sale. As a result we may very likely end up having to complete the sale, or face the consequences of the lawsuit.

-- J.C. B., Winnipeg

Attention Presales Buyers: If you are unable to complete your transaction of sale, or have assigned your agreement to another party who has not completed the transaction, gather your contracts and documents and make an appointment to meet your lawyer.

Presales agreements are contractual obligations with a developer, where you, the buyer, are compelled to purchase the unit when it is complete, at the fixed conditions in the agreement.

This is not a sales agreement. It binds the rights and obligations of the potential buyer and the developer to the conditions of the contract.

If you have transferred your presales agreement to another party, you may very likely have an obligation to the developer if the assigned buyer defaults.

Sales and marketing commissions might also be at risk, if they were paid as conditions of the completion during the presales period. Brokers and agents may also want to review their contractual relationships with the owner developer.

A growing problem in the development industry is the requirement that lenders impose on developers for presales.

As a condition of financing, developers are often obliged to pre-sell 75 per cent to 100 per cent of the project before the funding is released for the development.

This places a current value on a future product that might or might not be constant, and consumers often pay the price in significantly higher costs at the time of sale or a reduction of products and services.

A project strained by future uncontrollable costs or bankruptcy could also present a problem for buyers and strata corporations in reviewing operations, deficiencies and warranty claims in the early years of their strata corporation.

Tony Gioventu is executive director of the Condominium Home Owners' Association. E-mail [email protected]
     
     
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yup people gotta be careful

so these things are selling well now "again" but will they hold their value or go up enought to make a profit?

a lot of condos dropped in value and some people are paying off mrotages for more than their condo is worth apaprently
     
     
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In 2005, I was doing business in Vancouver and fell in love with a proposed development on the waterfront. It was originally planned for occupancy in 2008, but as delays mounted it ended up being available in 2009.

Seems simple enough except I transferred (sold) my presales contract to a Vancouver buyer in 2007 for a $50,000 premium.

They in turn transferred the contract to a Toronto buyer in 2008 for another premium. Well, we thought after our sale, it was the end, never to come up again.

Last fall, the third presales agreement holder defaulted on their obligation to complete the sale. The developer, in an effort to recover the losses from the sale, proceeded with a court action that has ended back at our doorstep. With both the second and third buyers defaulting, the developer has named us in the lawsuit.

Even though we sold or assigned our presales agreement, we did not discharge our obligation to the developer with their written consent, to complete the sale. As a result we may very likely end up having to complete the sale, or face the consequences of the lawsuit.
Well at least they've got $50K in their pocket AND they originally purchased in 2005 so the unit "should" be barely below water if not at or above!
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 29, 2009, 1:17 AM
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Cosmo sold 232 units in a matter of days as well.
The original buyers are Richards for $800psf were refunded their money as the project had been placed on hold, and it's probably safe to assume that they were given first dibs when it came back at $600psf.
     
     
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Rennie is such tool--albeit a rich one. Nobody could have predicted what was going to happen?!? If Rennie truly believes this and is not just chilling, then he should start associating with more competent economists and financial prognosticators.
Well, the "brightest" minds in the world didnt see this coming...name me one keynesian/mainstream economist who was shouting that there was a housing bubble...Leave the intelligence to the Austrian economists
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 30, 2009, 12:57 AM
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Well, the "brightest" minds in the world didnt see this coming...name me one keynesian/mainstream economist who was shouting that there was a housing bubble...Leave the intelligence to the Austrian economists
Nouriel Roubini? I know he's not an adherent of the Austrian school, and don't believe that he's a monetarist, so he must be a Keynesian.

On your greater point, I agree. If I had a nickel for every time the coke-head Larry Kudlow said the words "Goldilocks economy" during the Bush years, I'd be a very, very, rich man.
     
     
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Anybody got a list of proposed office projects in metro Van?
     
     
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