NEW YORK | One World Trade Center | 1,776' Pinnacle / 1,373' Roof | 108 FLOORS

[Crush_Buds]

Wikipedia lists official ground breaking on April 27, 2006, and I'm sure it has hit many financial and political roadblocks before and since then. So A: Where are people getting the idea that the project started 5 years ago? It may have initially started then, but its construction has been nowhere near constant. So why is there so much concern and debate about it? And B. This is not China. We have unions and labor laws. It will take time. There has been more controversy to this building than any other in the country. Replacing two buildings that each had their own damn zip code!!! ...So it'll be done when it's done!

[NYguy]

Just a reminder people, this thread is not meant to be a discussion ground for spire vs. roof debates. As far as the pace of construction goes, we are well aware of what has gone on until now. Those of us who bother to read the thread are also generally aware of when to expect things to move. The constant complaints over pace of construction and spire vs. roof debates have become tiresome to some, so please leave your whining to another thread, no need to keep beating a dead horse.

[NYguy]

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[pattali]

Back on topic , this morning a lot of truck coming from West street delivering steel , maybe for 1 wtc ...

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by pattali

Back on topic , this morning a lot of truck coming from West street delivering steel , maybe for 1 wtc ...

That would be great.

[colemonkee]

Is that dude carrying a murse (man purse)?

[FLBlake]

Originally Posted by colemonkee

Is that dude carrying a murse (man purse)?

He's also wearing capri pants. That's superfabulous.

[Duffstuff129]

Originally Posted by colemonkee

Is that dude carrying a murse (man purse)?

Originally Posted by FLBlake

He's also wearing capri pants. That's superfabulous.

And walking next to a guy wearing super short pants and drinking a super-duper iced coffee.

Hm...

But I love the progress! I have a feeling the progress of this tower could be mapped using the function x^3 as a visual tracking of its progress.

[NewYorker2009]

Originally Posted by SnowRider24

Wikipedia lists official ground breaking on April 27, 2006, and I'm sure it has hit many financial and political roadblocks before and since then. So A: Where are people getting the idea that the project started 5 years ago? It may have initially started then, but its construction has been nowhere near constant. So why is there so much concern and debate about it? And B. This is not China. We have unions and labor laws. It will take time. There has been more controversy to this building than any other in the country. Replacing two buildings that each had their own damn zip code!!! ...So it'll be done when it's done!

I wouldn't rely on wikipedia for specific information on One World Trade Center as some of the information on there has been proven false or hasn't been updated for quite some time. Here is a website you should check out about when One World Trade Center broke ground.
http://glasssteelandstone.com/BuildingDetail/439.php
Note: Groundbreaking is just a ceremony where a cornerstone is laid and July 4th, 2004 is when One World Trade Center's cornerstone was laid. Construction was then on hold for 21 months because of Silverstein and the Port Authority. To save you from visiting the website here is what it says:

"4 July, 2004 - Groundbreaking. A 20-ton granite slab is used as the cornerstone of the project. It is inscribed with the words "To honor and remember those who lost their lives on September 11, 2001 and as a tribute to the enduring spirit of freedom." - July Fourth, 2004."

"Ceremonial groundbreakings often precede the actual start of construction by many months."

[meh_cd]

That cornerstone was later removed, though. I wouldn't consider that the of groundbreaking for the current form that the tower has taken.

[RockMont]

Originally Posted by meh_cd

That cornerstone was later removed, though. I wouldn't consider that the of groundbreaking for the current form that the tower has taken.

That's because, that was going to be the beginning of that ridiculous nightmare, that was designed by that architect named Liebeskind. Thank God it was replaced by what is about to go up now.

[NewYorker2009]

Originally Posted by meh_cd

That cornerstone was later removed, though. I wouldn't consider that the of groundbreaking for the current form that the tower has taken.

Yes it was removed but it's only temporary. It will probably be returned to the site once the Tower is near completion or sometime after that. It was still the official goundbreaking ceremony. They had to remove the cornerstone for construction to begin which occured in June 2006.

[Aleks]

Originally Posted by CHAPINM1

Your wrong, this building will be taller than the SWFC, plus the SWFC has NOWHERE NEAR the same codes or quality that this building will have. The two don't even compare.

Actually, the SWFC is taller by roof which is what I'm referring to. Even with that silly hole at the top. Btw, my post wasn't meant to start a debate on the whole spire vs. roof. It was other forumers who did.

And the Shanghai WFC had a redesign after 9/11 where they added extra safety features that exceeded the building codes of even American cities. A look at the internal structure and it's components will show you that the building is one of the safest skyscrapers anywhere on earth.

And I'm not complaining about the schedule, but you must admit that it has taken a while for everything to start coming together. I know that there's this and that along the way and thats caused the construction to be slow, but it in fact has taken a long time. Which is all I'm pointing out. Other than that I'm pretty happy with the progress. It's better to see this complex coming together now than later.

Btw, does anyone have an idea of how much steel is used for 1 core floor? I imagine it must be way above average. And aren't the core walls supposed to be like 3 feet thick? Do we have an exact measurement?

[BStyles]

I've been watching One World Trade Center's progress since about a few months before they installed Calatrava's arches, and it has been slow, but they blew me away when they installed the steel cage on the S. core.

Think of it this way. The original World Trade Center started in 1964 and ended in 1973. They had to remove an entire neighborhood before they could start work on it. Thw new World Trade Center has to remove the remains of the original, so it's less than their time frame.

One World Trade Center will beat the WTC's record by about two years, so progress is very fast. If it were any faster, work will be rushed and the safety features won't be all that ''safe.'' This building plans to exceed normal building code, while aiming to achieve the LEED gold standard, so tat adds on to the progress too.

[NewYorker2009]

Originally Posted by BStyles

I've been watching One World Trade Center's progress since about a few months before they installed Calatrava's arches, and it has been slow, but they blew me away when they installed the steel cage on the S. core.

Think of it this way. The original World Trade Center started in 1964 and ended in 1973. They had to remove an entire neighborhood before they could start work on it. Thw new World Trade Center has to remove the remains of the original, so it's less than their time frame.

One World Trade Center will beat the WTC's record by about two years, so progress is very fast. If it were any faster, work will be rushed and the safety features won't be all that ''safe.'' This building plans to exceed normal building code, while aiming to achieve the LEED gold standard, so tat adds on to the progress too.

The original World Trade Center actually began in 1966. Demolition work on Radio Row began in March 1966 and Groundbreaking occured in August 1966 so it's strange how forty years later the process would have to be repeated with new, stronger Towers.

[Dirty Sandpit]

Originally Posted by BStyles

I've been watching One World Trade Center's progress since about a few months before they installed Calatrava's arches, and it has been slow, but they blew me away when they installed the steel cage on the S. core.

Think of it this way. The original World Trade Center started in 1964 and ended in 1973. They had to remove an entire neighborhood before they could start work on it. Thw new World Trade Center has to remove the remains of the original, so it's less than their time frame.

One World Trade Center will beat the WTC's record by about two years, so progress is very fast. If it were any faster, work will be rushed and the safety features won't be all that ''safe.'' This building plans to exceed normal building code, while aiming to achieve the LEED gold standard, so tat adds on to the progress too.

Now that you put it that way, I tend to agree. Considering this hole in the earth looks like a neighborhood was demolished, I guess we can't complain when it's not being built as fast as a rocket to space. But then again. They were building two buildings this is just one. But you could argue well yeah they built them at the same time. Either way I see your point.

[Dac150]

This conversation is really becoming tiresome and dragged out to no end in sight. When it’s built it’s built; bottom line. No sense in going on comparing and contrasting and discussing the same old song and dance.

[Zensteeldude]

Originally Posted by Aleks

Actually, the SWFC is taller by roof which is what I'm referring to. Even with that silly hole at the top. Btw, my post wasn't meant to start a debate on the whole spire vs. roof. It was other forumers who did.

And the Shanghai WFC had a redesign after 9/11 where they added extra safety features that exceeded the building codes of even American cities. A look at the internal structure and it's components will show you that the building is one of the safest skyscrapers anywhere on earth.

And I'm not complaining about the schedule, but you must admit that it has taken a while for everything to start coming together. I know that there's this and that along the way and thats caused the construction to be slow, but it in fact has taken a long time. Which is all I'm pointing out. Other than that I'm pretty happy with the progress. It's better to see this complex coming together now than later.

Btw, does anyone have an idea of how much steel is used for 1 core floor? I imagine it must be way above average. And aren't the core walls supposed to be like 3 feet thick? Do we have an exact measurement?

I am not at all surprised that the SWFC is one of the safest towers in the world after all Leslie Robertson is the senior structural engineer on that project. I though he was a broken man after 9/11 but I am very happy to see him bounce back strong ! For those of you who do not know Leslie Robertson was the senior structural engineer on the Twin Towers.

Having read only about 400 of the 2,487 pages of the New York City Building code personally I find your clams to be highly questionable.

I do know how much steel is in the core floors, I also know how thick all the core walls are, however, that information is need to know.

Now, on to what I really came here for. I found myself in South Plainfield,NJ yesterday and drove past the location of the company that is fabricating the steel for Tower One. I happened to see a friend of mine who is a welding inspector and stoped to say hello and of course find out all I could about the progress. Although he was very tightliped about happenings I did see about 10 trailers loaded with perimiter column sections ready to ship. I also saw some of the massive branching connections for the 3rd floor being welded. The next few months should be very interesting at the job site.
(The place is HUGE and I only saw about 15% of it)

[meh_cd]

Originally Posted by Zensteeldude

Now, on to what I really came here for. I found myself in South Plainfield,NJ yesterday and drove past the location of the company that is fabricating the steel for Tower One. I happened to see a friend of mine who is a welding inspector and stoped to say hello and of course find out all I could about the progress. Although he was very tightliped about happenings I did see about 10 trailers loaded with perimiter column sections ready to ship. I also saw some of the massive branching connections for the 3rd floor being welded. The next few months should be very interesting at the job site.
(The place is HUGE and I only saw about 15% of it)

*hops up and down excitedly*

[QuarterMileSidewalk]

BStyles, welcome to the forum, and nice start! Well put, I think.