Canada Line | Completed - Page 346

DKaz · #**6901** Posted **Jul 16, 2009, 8:30 PM**

Why all this talk about 65m platforms? Don't expect any major expansion on the Canada Line until at least 2040. 50m platforms + 55m long trains will do just fine until then. I just don't see Richmond greatly expanding, housing there is becoming overpriced for the privilege of living on soil that could liquify in the event of a major earthquake.

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Originally Posted by twoNeurons

Wow... they allow for a 7.5m overhang? That's quite a bit.

No, it'll be maximum 2.5m. We're just starting to get way too ahead of ourselves, unless they want to do the West Coast Express thing where we're doing 9-car and soon 10-car trains on platforms only designed for 7-cars.

metroXpress · #**6902** Posted **Jul 16, 2009, 8:46 PM**

No, that doesn't work. The 4-car configuration (A-C-C-B) would give you a total of 70-metres. Do all the doors fit on the 50-m plaform.

40+15+15=70

DKaz · #**6903** Posted **Jul 16, 2009, 8:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by Allen

No, that doesn't work. The 4-car configuration (A-C-C-B) would give you a total of 70-metres. Do all the doors fit on the 50-m plaform.

40+15+15=70

Certainly not. The max is a 3-car A-C-B format. = 55m.

metroXpress · #**6904** Posted **Jul 16, 2009, 9:32 PM**

^ I was talking about the "future" expansion

BCPhil · #**6905** Posted **Jul 16, 2009, 9:59 PM**

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Originally Posted by DKaz

Why all this talk about 65m platforms? Don't expect any major expansion on the Canada Line until at least 2040. 50m platforms + 55m long trains will do just fine until then. I just don't see Richmond greatly expanding, housing there is becoming overpriced for the privilege of living on soil that could liquify in the event of a major earthquake.

No, it'll be maximum 2.5m. We're just starting to get way too ahead of ourselves, unless they want to do the West Coast Express thing where we're doing 9-car and soon 10-car trains on platforms only designed for 7-cars.

Yeah, I don't think station platforms are going to need an expansion past 50m. I think any near term problems in capacity can be addressed by doubling the track to Richmond Center and extending it a bit to Granville or Blundell (with room to park and turn around trains) and getting some more trains and increasing frequency to the maximum on the Richmond Line.

But lets see what ridership is like when it opens.

metroXpress · #**6906** Posted **Jul 16, 2009, 10:58 PM**

^ doubling the tracks at Richmond Centre would cost quite a lot...sad that they didn't have 2 tracks there in the first place.
What they should have done is put Richmond-Brighouse station at Westminster and have another station that terminates the line at Blundell.

officedweller · #**6907** Posted **Jul 17, 2009, 1:09 AM**

There were supposed to be stations at both Westminster Hwy and at Saba Road (or one of those streets) - but the two were combined as a cost savings measure (and the City's desire to move Alderbridge Station to the south to Lansdowne (to line up with the Lansdowne pedestrian greenway to the Oval) made the change more reasonable in terms of station spacing).
From what I understand, Richmond also spearheaded the single tracking to reduce the overhead shadowing. Just be glad the single track wasn't installed around the future Capstan Station site as was planned at one time before it was decided to upgrade it to double track.

mr.x · #**6908** Posted **Jul 17, 2009, 1:18 AM**

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Originally Posted by CLC

in fact Roger Woodhead (the technical director of Canada line construction) even told media that two-car train can take even more than 400, and he also quoted 380-400 is the ideal maximum load

are you agreeing with me that it's all BS?

jlousa · #**6909** Posted **Jul 17, 2009, 1:50 AM**

Guys the 50m platfroms (55m trains) at max frequency it can handle the same amount of people as the Expo does right now. There is no way that the demand on that line will come anywhere close to that anytime soon. By the time it does then our kids will start talking about building a new line down Knight st.

CLC · #**6910** Posted **Jul 17, 2009, 2:50 AM**

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Originally Posted by mr.x

are you agreeing with me that it's all BS?

It is too early to tell, never underestimate people desperate to get on a train in rush hour, not matter how packed it is

but we may not know the real answer soon, since Vancouver main line is advertised as reliable 3-minute frequency(so people know the next train comes soon), that is a vast improvement over the always delayed 98b sometimes you have to wait another 15 minutes or more

CLC · #**6911** Posted **Jul 17, 2009, 4:04 AM**

just surfed on translink homepage, now it prints "Canada Line Arriving Summer 2009", looks like a done deal.

also takes a look at the new route map, I don't even want to comment:
http://www.translink.ca/Home/Rider%20Inf...ne/ctCanadaLineMap.ashx?w=420&h=637&as=1

nname · #**6912** Posted **Jul 17, 2009, 4:20 AM**

Some more changes can be found in the database since my last post (new changes are in red)...

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route	first	mor	mid	aft	night	last
003	4:51a	6	7	7	15	2:37a
010	4:28a	7	10	7	20	2:02a
015	4:45a	10	12	10	15	2:14a
017	4:54a	10	12	8	20	2:14a
033	6:00a	12	15	12	30	11:42p
041	4:26a	5	7.5	6.5	15	2:48a
043	6:10a	6.5	-	10	-	7:52p
100	5:04a	10	12	12	30	1:44a
301	4:35a	20	30	20	-	10:35p
311	4:45a	12	-	15	-	7:40p	(16 AM, 17 PM trips)
351	4:08a	10	30	15	60	2:34a
351A	4:27a	10	15	15	60	2:18a
352	4:37a	12	-	15	-	6:58p	(10 AM, 8 PM trips)
354	5:12a	12	-	15	-	6:57p	(10 AM, 8 PM trips)
401	4:41a	7	15	7	30	2:49a
402	4:40a	10	30	10	30	2:03a
403	4:29a	7.5	15	10	30	2:11a
404	4:47a	15	30	15	60	1:38a
405	5:31a	30	30	30	-	8:50p
405B	5:47a	30	30	30	60	12:17a
407	5:53a	30	60	30	30	2:25a
407C	4:38a	15	30	15	30	2:25a
410	4:39a	8	12	8	30	2:05a
430	5:55a	20	30	20	-	10:28p
480	5:43a	7.5	15	10	-	10:43p
601	4:21a	10	30	15	60	2:41a
601D	6:00a	20	-	30	-	6:54p	(2 AM, 2 PM trips)
602	5:54a	15	-	20	-	6:32p	(8 AM, 11 PM trips)
603	5:32a	20	-	30	-	7:52p	(9 AM, 6 PM trips)
604	6:01a	20	-	30	-	7:24p	(6 AM, 7 PM trips)
C90	3:06p	-	-	60	-	4:25p
C92	6:25a	15	30	15	-	7:16p
C94	8:50a	-	30	30	-	8:47p

A = 351 White Rock Centre / Bridgeport Station
B = 405 Cambie / Brighouse Station
C = 407 Gilbert / Brighouse Station
D = 601 Boundary Bay / Bridgeport Station

When you combine 403 and 410, you get a bus every 3.5 min during peak.. that's a lot of buses under Canada Line. And if you add in 480 south of Lansdowne, then there's a bus every 2.5 minutes!

Some other changes I've found, although not related to Canada Line...

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route	first	mor	mid	aft	night	last
135	5:06a	5	7	7	15	2:22a
143	6:32a	10	20	10	-	10:26p
C20	7:15a	20	20	20	30	12:30a

Also, it seems like they're changing the nightbus schedule as well...

mr.x · #**6913** Posted **Jul 17, 2009, 4:24 AM**

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Originally Posted by CLC

just surfed on translink homepage, now it prints "Canada Line Arriving Summer 2009", looks like a done deal.

also takes a look at the new route map, I don't even want to comment:
http://www.translink.ca/Home/Rider%20Inf...ne/ctCanadaLineMap.ashx?w=420&h=637&as=1

well, on the bright side....they got the colour scheme right.

RED for CANADA LINE!

windscar · #**6914** Posted **Jul 17, 2009, 4:26 AM**

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Originally Posted by CLC

just surfed on translink homepage, now it prints "Canada Line Arriving Summer 2009", looks like a done deal.

also takes a look at the new route map, I don't even want to comment:
http://www.translink.ca/Home/Rider%20Inf...ne/ctCanadaLineMap.ashx?w=420&h=637&as=1

Vancouver looks like a guy who is about to eat an apple with a big steam on it.

deasine · #**6915** Posted **Jul 17, 2009, 4:43 AM**

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Originally Posted by mr.x

well, on the bright side....they got the colour scheme right.

RED for CANADA LINE!

I hate to burst your bubble, but it's red because of the zone colours:

Source: TransLink

CLC · #**6916** Posted **Jul 17, 2009, 5:42 AM**

CTV reports on Canada Line opening day:

http://www.ctvbc.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local...090716/20090716/?hub=BritishColumbiaHome

lightrail · #**6917** Posted **Jul 17, 2009, 5:46 AM**

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Originally Posted by CLC

CTV reports on Canada Line opening day:

http://www.ctvbc.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local...090716/20090716/?hub=BritishColumbiaHome

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The Canada Line rapid transit system is expected to open earlier than expected, possibly as soon as mid-August.

How can it be expected to open earlier than expected - isn't that some sort of expected double negative or something - poor English at the least.

lightrail · #**6918** Posted **Jul 17, 2009, 5:49 AM**

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Originally Posted by CLC

just surfed on translink homepage, now it prints "Canada Line Arriving Summer 2009", looks like a done deal.

also takes a look at the new route map, I don't even want to comment:
http://www.translink.ca/Home/Rider%20Inf...ne/ctCanadaLineMap.ashx?w=420&h=637&as=1

What a —. Love the way they conveniently ignored the grab-fare to the airport. Translink is starting to annoy me with this stupidity.

mr.x · #**6919** Posted **Jul 17, 2009, 5:50 AM**

Canada Line could be in service by mid-August
Opening day will be free to public

Updated: Thu Jul. 16 2009 20:43:47
ctvbc.ca

The Canada Line rapid transit system is expected to open earlier than expected, possibly as soon as mid-August. That's nearly four months ahead of schedule.

Expected to cost around $2 billion, it will make Vancouver the first Canadian city to have a rapid transit link between its downtown core and its airport.

The massive project is expected to change the way tens of thousands of commuters get around the Lower Mainland area.

But before it can open, there are still plenty of finishing touches being done at all the stations along the Canada Line route.

"I think people have been seeing the trains run as we've been testing them,'' said Steve Crombie, spokesman for InTransit BC, the company contracted to build and help fund the project.

" I think there has been a lot of curiosity and interest in what is this thing and how does it work."

"We have 19 kilometres of line and 16 stations,'' he said.

Once the system opens, each one-way fare to and from Vancouver International Airport is expected to cost between $5 and $6.

Travelling at speeds of up to 80 kilometres per hour, it will take passengers 25 minutes to get from Waterfront Station in downtown Vancouver to the airport.

Transportation engineers and planners at the City of Vancouver say the Canada Line is expected to help ease traffic congestion, by getting more commuters out of cars, cutting pollution.

At full capacity, each Canada Line train will hold 400 passengers. (*cough*) They will be running trains every three minutes during peak service. The cars are much wider than SkyTrain, allowing them to accommodate luggage.

Travellers will ride for free on opening day, which could come as early as mid-August.

With a report by CTV British Columbia's Peter Grainger

© 2009 CTVglobemedia All Rights Reserved.

deasine · #**6920** Posted **Jul 17, 2009, 5:51 AM**

I like this:

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Travellers will ride for free on opening day, which could come as early as mid-August.