Edmonton Construction 9 (2008-08)

[240glt]

I also had a glimpse of the mainfloor at Serenity, at least the west piece. It also looks good.

I didn't want to bring that development up because it tends to draw some vitriolic responses, but I agree. Was down there tonight, every time I look at it I like it more. Having said that my initial expectations were fairly low.

Do we know what's happening with the ground level as far as tenants ?

[ue]

Caffe Sorrentino I believe is one.

[Cow-garian]

Originally Posted by Spring2008

I still take a lot of heat on this thread for any bit of criticism I spill on here.

With the attitude that you portray I'm sure you tend to get criticism else where and not only here. As a Calgarian living here for 24 years let me tell you something, I am happy that Edmonton is what it is -a city with huge potential- it has kept my city on its toes for God knows how long.

And if a very proud Calgarian whose dislike of its northern neighbor can publicly admit that, good riddance that you'll be off to Vancouver. I may be new member to this forum (but long time lurker), but my tolerance to someone who doesn't know what's underneath their very nose, is low.

Oil country keep doing what you're doing, in the next boom these folks will be coming back wondering why they ever left .

/end rant

[Urban_Genius]

Originally Posted by Spring2008

I find these continuous Edmonton-Vancouver, Edmonton-TO, Ed-Calgary etc....
comparisons so lame.

This time around it's, Oh Van has cultural facilities, so do we: Van has trails,so do we: Van has biking lanes so do we, Van has retail, so do we....let's keep telling ourselves our city is just as awesome as any other city.

Using this rational I could probably convince some of you that Grand Prairie is really almost identical to Vancouver.

In the end it's really like comparing a Ferrari to a Chevy, sure they both have 4 wheels and a steering wheel, but if you keep telling yourselves they're the same you're only fooling yourselves.

You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but how can you consider Edmonton a dead-city and yet not WEM?

Honestly it's quite absurd and not accurate of reality in my mind.

[kcantor]

some belated photographs of qualico's south side office building:

[Atlguy33]

^Whoa, that is a fine looking building! Thanks for posting, Ken!

[Coldrsx]

Ken,

Great looking office building. What part of downtown is that?


With regards to 10830... i just want that damn hoarding down already. Not sure why it would be still up if the glass is now in and overhead work is completed. Rexall, as much as i would have preferred a restaurant, will liven up that corner similar to sobeys on 104.

Serenity - drove by again last night and again feel it is getting far too much negative press. I do hope the cafe sorrentino's does open on the main though, it will start to give that area some critical mass of places to go.

[s211]

Originally Posted by cdnklc

some belated photographs of qualico's south side office building:

LEED?

[s211]

Originally Posted by RTA

One thing I was shocked about is the level of anti-Olympic sentiment still prevalent in the region, even long after the bid and awarding and this close to the commencement of the games.

http://riot2010.com

[kcantor]

Originally Posted by Coldrsx

Ken,

Great looking office building. What part of downtown is that?
...

now, now - you don't have to be downtown to use real curtainwall (although i quite like the clerestory punched windows in the atrium) and tyndall stone...

Originally Posted by s211

LEED?

no - a shadow check list ends up at l**d gold (respecting the (r) and protecting the brand by not associating it with "shadow" )with the natural lighting and geothermal etc. but being owner occupied the certification didn't warrant either the additional cost or the additional time...

[CMD UW]

Originally Posted by Coldrsx

Ken,

Great looking office building. What part of downtown is that?


With regards to 10830... i just want that damn hoarding down already. Not sure why it would be still up if the glass is now in and overhead work is completed. Rexall, as much as i would have preferred a restaurant, will liven up that corner similar to sobeys on 104.

Serenity - drove by again last night and again feel it is getting far too much negative press. I do hope the cafe sorrentino's does open on the main though, it will start to give that area some critical mass of places to go.

I know, I am anxious to see 10830 main floor. So far it's looking good.

Serenity, concur....

[Coldrsx]

"the certification didn't warrant either the additional cost or the additional time..."

or third party verification...

[Daveography]

Originally Posted by s211

http://riot2010.com

That site is pretty vague. Most arguments I've heard against the Olympics have been pretty vague, though.

There's certainly a lot about the security preparations that I think are ridiculous and unnecessary (security cameras all around, ridiculous numbers of security personnel, police harassing protesters and other vocal opponents of the games, airspace restrictions, etc.), but some of these seemingly militant groups worry me.

But even aside from them, many people I talked to there thought the Olympics were a big waste of money that could better spent elsewhere (sound familiar?).

[Kevin_foster]

@ Ken

Very nicely done office....

Your Winnipeg HQ, is the building as nice?

[240glt]

Housing market in 'recovery'

City resale numbers set June record, though average prices still down

The Edmonton resale homes market set a new June record and recorded the third-best month in MLS history.

But average prices, although also rebounding, are still down year over year, Re/Max reported Monday.

A total of 2,552 homes sold in June, up 15.8 per cent year over year.

The previous Edmonton buyers' market has become more balanced, with a slow return to more traditional inventory levels, Re/Max said.

And we can expect a more stable environment going forward.

"The frenzied climate of previous upswings will be conspicuously absent. While multiple offers have re-emerged --particularly in the $300,000 to $450,000 price point --they will continue to be the exception rather than the rule, driving sales prices close to, but not typically over, asking price."

Demand is expected to remain strong, bolstered by looming interest rate hikes and glimmers of positive news on the economic horizon, the company added.

http://www.edmontonjournal.com/business/Housing+market+recovery/1788527/story.html

[kcantor]

Originally Posted by Coldrsx

"the certification didn't warrant either the additional cost or the additional time..."

or third party verification...

did you need an independent engineer's verification of the design of that little honda of yours before you were prepared to buy it or did you know exactly how it was supposed to perform with or without that "third party verification"? and i'm talking about a design review and subsequent performance evaluation and verification of that design prior to your buying it, not a mechanics inspection of its condition at the time. didn't think so.

[kcantor]

Originally Posted by Kevin_foster

@ Ken

Very nicely done office....

Your Winnipeg HQ, is the building as nice?

nobody does things as well or as nice as we do them....

[Kevin_foster]

So I've just visted emporis.com for the first time in... many months.. and it would appear that "proposed" buildings are no longer for the viewing public?

[s211]

Originally Posted by cdnklc

no - a shadow check list ends up at l**d gold (respecting the (r) and protecting the brand by not associating it with "shadow" )with the natural lighting and geothermal etc. but being owner occupied the certification didn't warrant either the additional cost or the additional time...

But from a marketing and governance perspective, wouldn't a corporation that works in the real estate industry want to illustrate both to its investors, tenants, etc. and the general community that the company holds itself to an industry standard (even if the company may not be a wholesale believer in the standard)?

In this day and age, I would have guessed that firms such as yours would want to appear to be fully invested in such an endeavour.

[s211]

Originally Posted by RTA

That site is pretty vague. Most arguments I've heard against the Olympics have been pretty vague, though.

There's certainly a lot about the security preparations that I think are ridiculous and unnecessary (security cameras all around, ridiculous numbers of security personnel, police harassing protesters and other vocal opponents of the games, airspace restrictions, etc.), but some of these seemingly militant groups worry me.

Trust me, these maxi-loons deserve every ounce of "harassment" they feel they're getting. These are truly %^#E$^@% - up people that at a minimum need a good lump or two on the head. The BS that they've already pulled are worthy of a stint in Alcatraz.