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Cypherus · #**6781** Posted **Jul 12, 2009, 6:49 PM**

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Originally Posted by Yume-sama

Then to complete the idiocy, she said "Have a nice flight!" and I responded "You too!... oh..."

LOL. That reminds me a few months ago when I couldn't understand my coworker when she asked, "How are you today?" I replied, "you too."

argon007 · #**6782** Posted **Jul 12, 2009, 7:12 PM**

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Originally Posted by mr.x

These are the onboard train announcements I would have:
.....
And platform announcements for ALL stations:
"The Canada Line train to Waterfront Station/Brighouse-Richmond City Centre Station/Vancouver International Airport is now arriving. Please let passengers exit first."

Sweet, to the point, short yet still informative.

then why don't they make easier....like Expo Line/ Millennium Line?

"The next station is Joyce / Collingwood"
"The next station is Broadway"
....
"The next station is Metrotown"
"The next station is 22nd Street"
...
when the trains goes to Millennium Line or Expo Line, they will announce the Millennium Line to VCC - Clark or Expo Line to King George when they have arrived the station.

the platform of station in Expo/Millennium Line do not say that. just display the board..."Expo Line to King George" or "Millennium Line to VCC Clark" when they are arriving the station.

that would be easier.

Yume-sama · #**6783** Posted **Jul 12, 2009, 7:16 PM**

I agree shorter messages are better.

It is funny when you arrive in a major station in Japan (say Shinjuku, Tokyo, Shinagawa, etc.) they list EVERY single possible connection you can take (which is pretty much every train / subway line in existence, short of the Shinkansen in Shinjuku). The announcement starts like 3 minutes before arrival. I often thought they should just say "Get out here if you are going anywhere."

At YVR, "Get out here if you plan on taking a plane."

Also, only this last year I did figure out that the "doors on the right / left side of the train will open" announcement meant in the way the train was traveling.

I thought this was the biggest discovery ever and told everyone I knew. They all claimed to know, but.... I doubt it.

mr.x · #**6784** Posted **Jul 12, 2009, 7:31 PM**

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Originally Posted by argon007

then why don't they make easier....like Expo Line/ Millennium Line?

"The next station is Joyce / Collingwood"
"The next station is Broadway"
....
"The next station is Metrotown"
"The next station is 22nd Street"
...
when the trains goes to Millennium Line or Expo Line, they will announce the Millennium Line to VCC - Clark or Expo Line to King George when they have arrived the station.

the platform of station in Expo/Millennium Line do not say that. just display the board..."Expo Line to King George" or "Millennium Line to VCC Clark" when they are arriving the station.

that would be easier.

What you suggested is what we have now. But it's not very informative about the interchanges (that's right, not transfer points) and the nearby attractions. The point isn't to make it "easier", it's to make it short but yet still informative. Poor wayfinding is a major problem with our transit system.

And as for British terms, i find it more "proper".

For instance, it's not a "train yard"...it's the "Operations and Maintenance Centre".

VanCvl · #**6785** Posted **Jul 12, 2009, 8:02 PM**

Tomorrow the Cambie bridge westbound off-ramp will be open to vehicles (coinciding with the Burrard Bridge closure). The eastbound ramp will still be closed.

As well, Davie and Mainland at Yaletown station will be opened tomorrow for traffic and pedestrians.

deasine · #**6786** Posted **Jul 12, 2009, 9:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by mr.x

Too British??? Pffft....for a country founded by the British? And a province named BRITISH Columbia? What a load of.

That was the explanation I heard... I thought it was rather funny

officedweller · #**6787** Posted **Jul 13, 2009, 1:39 AM**

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Originally Posted by VanCvl

Tomorrow the Cambie bridge westbound off-ramp will be open to vehicles (coinciding with the Burrard Bridge closure). The eastbound ramp will still be closed.

As well, Davie and Mainland at Yaletown station will be opened tomorrow for traffic and pedestrians.

Great news on both counts!

Too bad the Cambie ramp openings weren't advertised with the Burrard Bridge advertisements!

deasine · #**6788** Posted **Jul 13, 2009, 7:37 AM**

I only looked at the Buzzer Videos from SSP, but I finally decided to check out their post and they have a few more videos and photos:

Richmond-Brighouse:

Source: Buzzer Blog, TransLink

Source: Buzzer Blog, TransLink

The End of the Line:

Source: Buzzer Blog, TransLink

First Ticket Purchased from the Canada Line TVMs (design unconfirmed as of now)

Source: Buzzer Blog, TransLink

North Arm Bridge:

Source: Buzzer Blog, TransLink

metroXpress · #**6789** Posted **Jul 13, 2009, 2:09 PM**

Re: Public Art

The recent opening of the neihu line in Taipei has lots of public art in their stations: (another project by Bombardier..using VAL technology)

Aiport Station:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2497/3690904706_6c84f8bb1c_b.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2513/3690136981_17c4ce11e7_b.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2499/3690560117_72ab49ab7f_b.jpg

Click to see the images

lightrail · #**6790** Posted **Jul 13, 2009, 3:54 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Allen

Re: Public Art

The recent opening of the neihu line in Taipei has lots of public art in their stations: (another project by Bombardier..using VAL technology)

Thanks - but wrong thread.

WarrenC12 · #**6791** Posted **Jul 13, 2009, 4:12 PM**

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Originally Posted by DKaz

I told everyone so.

I don't think finishing it was an issue. Call me when all of the debts are paid, if I live that long.

lightrail · #**6792** Posted **Jul 13, 2009, 4:45 PM**

Here's a shot from Buzzer Blog - this shows that no expense has been spared at Waterfront Station. Here you can see the train approaching the 2 metre long by 1 metre wide single end of the line platform. Notice the single width stairway leading up from the platform nicely finished in natural concrete.

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twoNeurons · #**6793** Posted **Jul 13, 2009, 5:22 PM**

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Originally Posted by Yume-sama

Yeah, I really would not bother lugging all of my luggage, and kids, and their luggage, on to a train for the same price as a taxi with door to door service.

Not the most cunning plan.

It would have to actually be a significant difference to even come close to persuading me to do that

Realistically, people who usually take taxis will still take it.

However, there exists a large percentage of people who will take the train, even if it's more expensive. These aren't just train enthusiasts.

These are people who like to plan things. Taxis are generally unpredictable, both in time spent and in price. They depend a lot on congestion.

A train line is more predictable, you know where it's going and how long it will take to get there.

The train is VERY convenient, stares down at you almost speaking to you: "TAKE ME, TAKE ME!"

I was thinking though. For those that pick up people or have friends or relatives pick you up, I wonder if there will be a better station to wait at? You can't really wait in the Arrivals pick-up lane (unless it's REALLY not busy and no one's there). Inside YVR, the train is free.

I wonder if there is a better area to wait?

officedweller · #**6794** Posted **Jul 13, 2009, 5:40 PM**

Cool idea - next time I fly in I'll get my friend to pick me up at Templeton Station.

Quote:

Originally Posted by lightrail

Here's a shot from Buzzer Blog - this shows that no expense has been spared at Waterfront Station. Here you can see the train approaching the 2 metre long by 1 metre wide single end of the line platform. Notice the single width stairway leading up from the platform nicely finished in natural concrete.

.

You forgot to mention the unfinsihed drywall panels.
But seruiously, its a utility area and the staircase probably leads to a mechanical room - so unless you need to accommodate severly obese engineers, you should be OK. Any additional width on that staircase would also take space away from the public staircase/escalator passage behind that wall.

twoNeurons · #**6795** Posted **Jul 13, 2009, 6:06 PM**

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Originally Posted by DKaz

That is awesome. I've Googled Skytrain and now I'm reading some of the early articles from when Skytrain just opened.

I found an article with some interesting information:

Fares were initially $1.35
There were worries about the automated train killing people (apparently a teenage boy was hit?)
The trip took 27 minutes, 2 seconds ( Downtown to New West)
There is/was a similar [LIM?] system in Santa Clara?
It costed $1Billion (including interest)
Rides were free for about 10 days.
There were 15 stations (we knew this)
Trains ran 4-6 minutes apart at the start of Full Revenue service (Jan 3, 1986)
The Scott Road Extension was estimated to be $200M

officedweller · #**6796** Posted **Jul 13, 2009, 6:10 PM**

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Originally Posted by twoNeurons

[*]There is/was a similar [LIM?] system in Santa Clara?

Never heard of this one - unless - I suspect someone may be referring to a LIM powered roller coaster at Paramount's Great America theme park in Santa Clara, CA.

jlousa · #**6797** Posted **Jul 14, 2009, 3:30 AM**

Was at a meeting today and someone there mentioned that the Canada Line is already shuttling passengers from the employee parkade to YVR. Can anyone else confirm this?

deasine · #**6798** Posted **Jul 14, 2009, 3:56 AM**

The North Employee Lot isn't serviced by a Canada Line station... not yet at least?

Kwik-E-Mart · #**6799** Posted **Jul 14, 2009, 4:05 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by twoNeurons

I found an article with some interesting information:

Fares were initially $1.35
There were worries about the automated train killing people (apparently a teenage boy was hit?)
The trip took 27 minutes, 2 seconds ( Downtown to New West)
There is/was a similar [LIM?] system in Santa Clara?
It costed $1Billion (including interest)
Rides were free for about 10 days.
There were 15 stations (we knew this)
Trains ran 4-6 minutes apart at the start of Full Revenue service (Jan 3, 1986)
The Scott Road Extension was estimated to be $200M

I still remember when I first came to Vancouver in the late 80s of seeing two-car Mk-I trains running after peak hours.

Bureaucromancer · #**6800** Posted **Jul 14, 2009, 4:33 AM**

Oh yeah, I'm not going to be able to get to BC for awhile after this opens and I've been wondering, does Waterfront have the same single track platform as the other terminals?