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Zensteeldude · #**5221** Posted **Jul 13, 2009, 2:46 PM**

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Originally Posted by CHAPINM1

You people are all forgetting that the communications element is gone! GONE!!! Also that design changes can be made VERY quickly with the computer technology that is going into the design. NYGUY posted something about that a while back. I wouldn't at all be suprised if the restaurant and the observatory are both to be bumped up in height.

The "communications element" is far from gone. The MTVA backing out of it's commitment just means that about 14 tv antennas (all mounted in the spire) well not be installed and the spire well be redesigned to be lighter and cheaper (the current design weighs over 400 tons). Also that leaves the 89th and 90th floors empty, for now.

As far as design changes NYGUY is absolutely right, CAD programs make it rather easy to make new revised prints. That is the easy part, the hard part is changing contracts already signed and sealed to build the tower according to the current design. (The PA web site has a list of contracts, about 93% of the tower is bought and payed for)

I also see no way for the restaurant and observation deck to be moved higher up in the tower, there are elements of the HVAC equipment that must stay were they are, just below or just above the roof.

drumz0rz · #**5222** Posted **Jul 13, 2009, 3:33 PM**

It's more of a pipe dream. The open air roof observation platform on 2 WTC was a wonderful, unique place (i remember being up there one night, as the wind was blowing up the building, making one side extremly windy, while the other side was slient, and there was a distinct line between the two). The sad truth is that we can't get that expirience back, which is a real shame. Maybe in the next half century someone else will build a massive sky scraper downtown, and put an open air platform on top. One can only hope...

uaarkson · #**5223** Posted **Jul 13, 2009, 5:24 PM**

You guys act like it would be impossible to add an open-air observation deck at some point in the future. Sure, it's unlikely to happen anytime soon, but it could always happen.

Dac150 · #**5224** Posted **Jul 13, 2009, 5:47 PM**

There's no need to further discuss this because it is irrelevant to the current planned reality.

Zensteeldude · #**5225** Posted **Jul 13, 2009, 9:20 PM**

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Originally Posted by uaarkson

You guys act like it would be impossible to add an open-air observation deck at some point in the future. Sure, it's unlikely to happen anytime soon, but it could always happen.

It's not impossible, just unlikely in the extreme, now or ever. However here is something that may very well happen in the near future.

http://projects.ajc.com/gallery/view/travel/sears-tower-sledge/

Say 3 or 4 on each side. I don't think the sloped sides of the tower are an issue.

Antares41 · #**5226** Posted **Jul 13, 2009, 10:07 PM**

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Originally Posted by Zerton

^ take photos next time!

The Police may not let you take any photos from the PATH Station. Don't know this for certain, but, don't be surprise.

NYguy · #**5227** Posted **Jul 13, 2009, 10:15 PM**

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Originally Posted by Zensteeldude

( the top of the parapet is also the hight of the first Tower One).

That's the plan.

NYguy · #**5228** Posted **Jul 13, 2009, 10:37 PM**

Update from morrongiello (July 13)

Dac150 · #**5229** Posted **Jul 13, 2009, 10:58 PM**

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Originally Posted by Antares41

The Police may not let you take any photos from the PATH Station. Don't know this for certain, but, don't be surprise.

Yes, there was quite a lot of security so I don’t know if they would allow it.

NYguy · #**5230** Posted **Jul 13, 2009, 11:10 PM**

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Originally Posted by Dac150

Yes, there was quite a lot of security so I don’t know if they would allow it.

You can do it. Just take the pic, don't ask. It's the same around the Goldman Sachs building (of which you aren't supposed to photograph). But just take your shot and move on, nobody will bother you. You can also take shots from the train when it pulls in.

Dac150 · #**5231** Posted **Jul 13, 2009, 11:13 PM**

Alright, I’ll give it a shot next time I’m down there. There certainly is much to show, it really is pretty cool what’s going on under there.

Dirty Sandpit · #**5232** Posted **Jul 14, 2009, 9:49 PM**

is it me or has the north core caught up with the south core? Either way it looks like one giant core! Great progress, and thanks for posting pic because the Earth cam webiste won't let me on anymore for some reason!

NYguy · #**5233** Posted **Jul 14, 2009, 10:57 PM**

millertime213

Puzzlecraft · #**5234** Posted **Jul 15, 2009, 12:03 AM**

The north core hasn't jumped yet. Maybe within 2 weeks?

Picture is within the last hour:

Meanwhile looks like a big pour is about to happen on the ground level south of the south core. Also the south core form cladding is being removed from the south side of the south core, meaning a different construction method will commence beyond the current level of south core concrete, eventually.

Finally on Vesey St. (N. of the N. core), demolition of the overhang has made progress (lower right).

On another forum, people are asking what the steel forms which were recently removed from Fulton St. were for. Someone here mentioned the steel forms for used for staging material until the plaza to the East was poured. The plaza area is now being used for temporary storage / staging.

CHAPINM1 · #**5235** Posted **Jul 16, 2009, 4:59 AM**

Appears that they are doing a pour tonight judging by the concrete trucks!

pattali · #**5236** Posted **Jul 16, 2009, 1:58 PM**

Black and Red dress for north core, Black dress for south core ...

NYguy · #**5237** Posted **Jul 16, 2009, 2:19 PM**

Update from morrongiello (July 15)

NYguy · #**5238** Posted **Jul 16, 2009, 2:24 PM**

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Puzzlecraft · #**5239** Posted **Jul 16, 2009, 4:20 PM**

Something happened with the S Core - clearly a jump can be seen - floor form or work platform jumped - plus a darker wall form or is this just a curtain?

Slow starting animated gif:

Cropped NYguy pic showing the removal of the old form cladding from the S. side of the S core.

As for the funky red and black skirt on the N. core form, any idea why? I was thinking to keep the light aqua colored "foam tiles" from shedding (space shuttle problem), lol.

Still no pour at the S side mat. A pour at the N Core last night could mean that we'll see a jump there this weekend.

uakoops · #**5240** Posted **Jul 16, 2009, 8:44 PM**

Looks like the S core inside forms were jumped up. They will put the rebar around them then put the outside forms on.

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Originally Posted by Puzzlecraft

Something happened with the S Core - clearly a jump can be seen - floor form or work platform jumped - plus a darker wall form or is this just a curtain?

Slow starting animated gif:

Cropped NYguy pic showing the removal of the old form cladding from the S. side of the S core.

As for the funky red and black skirt on the N. core form, any idea why? I was thinking to keep the light aqua colored "foam tiles" from shedding (space shuttle problem), lol.

Still no pour at the S side mat. A pour at the N Core last night could mean that we'll see a jump there this weekend.